My view on obesity.

So you watched the bbc news and "believe" there is some level of food addiction and your going to claim that these are facts?

You know what, I'm done, you don't even seem to understand what a fact actually is.

It's no one else's business if someone is obese. I mean seriously. Get over it. Yes, obese people should lose weight, but because of their HEALTH, not because it's not pretty to look at, as someone said on this thread.

Those who are drug addicts, smokers, alcoholics etc seem to get a worse time because it's seen as rude to openly berate an obese person. They will say "urgggh...smoking is disgusting! Do you know what you're doing to yourself?" and then say absolutely nothing when the fat person at the table orders dessert.

I've never actually heard anyone say this publicly to a smoker in real life.

I've never actually heard anyone say this publicly to a smoker in real life.

I dont mind seeing chubby people or a person slightly overweight. Thats fine but its a bit disturbing when you see a really obese person. On top of that nowadays you see many obese children as well who refuse to take part in exercise at school and that's worrying. 6/7 years ago i was obese and just started off jogging 15 minutes a day, fast forward to now and ive completed so many 5k, 10k and half marathons. I've never felt better and running and fitness in general has become part of me. Being obese causes so many health problems and i really worry for a person whose obese even though it really isnt my problem. Live and let live I've always reminded myself that and ignored it. I know it's hard to start fixing your diet and actually get off your butt to exercise and it is hard in the first few weeks but if you stay at it, you'll see the rewards at the end.

Same here.

It's easy to talk big on the internet though, you're not going to have some chav smacking you in the mouth.

well done bro.

i need to get into this jogging ting as well. I can get into hours of cycling, used to do 40miles every saturday which was tough at first but when I got into it is was very good.

There seems to be a disparity in opinions to the drug addicts and the obese person. People say that the drug addict did it to themselves and people say that they don't need help yet obesity is done largely by the person as well. Take for example hyperthyroidism which is supposed a factor for obesity, it is supposedly responsible for 0.1% of the cases of obesity.

Now overweight people dislike the facts, but it's simple calorie intake vs calories burnt. If you're eating dense calories like grilled chicken, brown rice, beans etc. over fried beef, burgers, biscuits, coca cola and beer you will lose weight or not gain weight as you will feel more full. This low metabolism stuff makes less sense because you will increase your metabolism regardless if you exercise more.

These are the facts. Disagree with them all you want but doesn't make them any less correct than they are.

I will include a poll to see people's views on obesity. I also would like to say that people's threads on disapproving of multiculturalism go on far longer than a thread with much less discriminating opinions(that overweight people do this to themselves and should lose weight).

Food for thought definitely. Let me get a banana.

When you have a heart attack, a stroke, a brain aneurysm, dementia, parkinsons disease, break your leg, break your spine, cut your hand off with a table saw these all become everybodies problem, the moment you step foot in a&e it becomes everybodies problem.

We all pay in we and we all get treatment.

Do I get to complain if your injury is your own fault?

No.

Because you have paid just as much as you (proportionally) have to have access to that service.

Why are people on TSR obsessed with fat people? If someone wants to gorge on fatty on food let them. What's it to you?


Honestly sometimes I wonder whether TSR is the go-to forum for people with angst about nonexistent issues irl.

It's not a simple question of calories in vs calories out. Genetics has an absolutely massive impact on a person's metabolism, fitness, liability to addiction, etc. It is a simple fact that it is vastly easier for some people to remain fit and healthy than others. Now, that doesn't mean that people should simply give in to their genetic dispositions, but it does mean that it's very unfair to act as if it's as simple as a choice - because it really isn't.

Why are people on TSR obsessed with fat people? If someone wants to gorge on fatty on food let them. What's it to you?


Honestly sometimes I wonder whether TSR is the go-to forum for people with angst about nonexistent issues irl.

It's not a simple question of calories in vs calories out. Genetics has an absolutely massive impact on a person's metabolism, fitness, liability to addiction, etc. It is a simple fact that it is vastly easier for some people to remain fit and healthy than others. Now, that doesn't mean that people should simply give in to their genetic dispositions, but it does mean that it's very unfair to act as if it's as simple as a choice - because it really isn't.

I would also add that money is a massive factor. In a recent National Geographic article, they showed how regions of poverty correlate perfectly with regions of obesity. Fresh, healthy food is more expensive than fast food. Many people living in poverty don't actually have a choice to eat a healthy diet because they have neither the time, money or resources. It's very easy to sneer at people from the perspective of someone who has had proper education on healthy eating and the money and time to invest in a healthy diet, but some people don't have that option. Obesity is a function of inequality, something that you will see clearly if you look at global trends or even trends within countries. I can say with absolute certainty that the rate of obesity in, for instance, South Kensington is much lower than in Tottenham.