Feminists invent ''sex consent kit''

I can't tell the difference between 'real' feminists and satire anymore...

What if I change my mind half way through and he doesn't stop

Do you honestly believe that? Look up the name "Emma Sulkowicz". She lied about being raped, got found out lying by a liberal college court that is heavily in favour of the woman - and yet all she had to do was carry a mattress around and post of social media that she was raped and 100,000's of people unquestioningly believed her. She went on a campaign harrasing the guy she accused and basically ruined his life, and the college did nothing to stop it. She got her story in the New York times and Rolling Stone. Despite the fact, she had been proven to be lying.

And you say people don't believe women?

Feminists live in some kind of fantasy.

What I would suggest is that no one is willing to trust the victims; everyone is willing to trust the villains. It should be reversed.

You heard of the "innocent until proven guilty", right?

How am I to believe that when less than 10% of reported cases end in conviction? How does it all add up? To say, "innocent until proven guilty" is to insinuate that women lie most of the time. That isn't right, surely?

I grant you that it is a difficult crime to prove with hard evidence (usually there is little if any evidence in the immediate aftermath of rape) but know that rape is more complex than it seems; for instance, a large portion of it happens in relationships and in social atmospheres where consent fails to be given. In those circumstances even the witnesses may choose to believe in the perpetrator and testify against the victim because to them at least nothing seemed amiss at the time. Herein lies the problem: a lack of education on everyone's part.

That is utterly fallacious. First, a large portion of rape victims do not report their incident(s) either due to the fear of their partner reacting badly to being reported or because they know that rape cases are incredibly hard to push through successfully. This brings me onto my second point: even if they do report it, they first need to be believed in by some authority and they second need to be able to get somewhere in court both of which are surprisingly difficult. Indeed, an overwhelming majority of the perpetrators here in the UK at least walk free.

I have to say though, the worst thing about your statement is the insinuation that rape victims are somehow manipulative liars rather than the perpetrators themselves.

What if I change my mind half way through and he doesn't stop

It's almost as if this is a ridiculous idea that no one should listen to.

Given the context of the post I am responding to, the notion that you could apply this statement to all rape victims is, to use your words, utterly fallacious. I have insinuated nothing. Victims of rape could well be manipulative liars while still being a victim of rape.

None of this takes away from the fact that some vicious, manipulative, and downright nasty women do make false accusations and some women do make accusations because they regret a decision they made. Making this statement does not in any way diminish genuine rape victims and nor does it detract from the fact that genuine rape victims, even if they are manipulative liars, need help and better justice.

And pro-tip, before you accuse me of anything, check the God damn context next time.

don't see the point. not having one signed is not evidence you raped. Signing one is evidence you DID NOT rape her.

Although i guess its proof you did sleep with her.


if i was about to shag a woman and she pulled that out at me, I'd tear it up and say "say no" and carry on kissing her.

One thing does stand out though. Why is it that we will readily accept that a worrying percentage of men are bad enough to rape, but unwilling to accept the idea that any meaningful number of women could ever possible be bad enough people to falsely report one? Men are not horrible monsters and women are not perfect angels.

I am sorry; I understand that my original reply to your message came across as confrontational.

Within this thread though, I'm trying to communicate to people that women don't lie about rape in general. It is a real genuine issue for most of them (or the ones we know about at least). Unfortunately, when the focus is on women who lie about rape (which it is for a large portion of this thread) there is somewhat of a detraction from the truth of the matter.

My concern is that the modern trend is towards accepting the women's word as gospel and therefore accepting her accusation and labelling the male accused.

But it isn't a modern trend; 98% of men don't face any repercussions for their actions. I agree that it's bad that a falsely accused man could have his reputation unfairly tarnished but seeing how rare it is to be falsely accused coupled with the fact that, as evidenced by this thread, people are more likely to sympathise with men there isn't much reason to believe that that is the most pressing issue.