This discussion is now closed.
Check out other Related discussions
Why do women feel the need to sexualise themselves in public?
Scroll to see replies
@Jimbo1234
@NHM713
Wow, I'm impressed at the tenacity in both of your posts.
I was back-tracking the conversation and I went back for quite a while...
(By the way, there are things which I disagree with you two on, but I'm not going to go through everything said, and reply, or reply yet anyway.)
@NHM713
Wow, I'm impressed at the tenacity in both of your posts.
I was back-tracking the conversation and I went back for quite a while...
(By the way, there are things which I disagree with you two on, but I'm not going to go through everything said, and reply, or reply yet anyway.)
Original post by XcitingStuart
@Jimbo1234
@NHM713
Wow, I'm impressed at the tenacity in both of your posts.
I was back-tracking the conversation and I went back for quite a while...
(By the way, there are things which I disagree with you two on, but I'm not going to go through everything said, and reply, or reply yet anyway.)
@NHM713
Wow, I'm impressed at the tenacity in both of your posts.
I was back-tracking the conversation and I went back for quite a while...
(By the way, there are things which I disagree with you two on, but I'm not going to go through everything said, and reply, or reply yet anyway.)
Are you calling me dumb?
Why not, you've already made this response.
Original post by NHM713
Because your link lead me to a page that says, "An error has occurred in the applicationPlease contact support. Thank you for your patience and understanding."
Well I'm a woman who lives in this society, I think that give me enough entitlement to speak on the matter. You are terrified by your own assumptions, now that's just silly.
I fail to understand why you care what a woman wears, there are much greater problems in this world.
Well I'm a woman who lives in this society, I think that give me enough entitlement to speak on the matter. You are terrified by your own assumptions, now that's just silly.
I fail to understand why you care what a woman wears, there are much greater problems in this world.
Then google it
Oh, so you're a woman so you know everything there is? With that broken logic your claim means you could also be a gynecologist.
No - it just makes you ignorant and arrogant.
Original post by NHM713
Are you calling me dumb?
Why not, you've already made this response.
Why not, you've already made this response.
So as I thought you do need a dictionary.
Oh and that reply does make you look not the smartest person in the world.
Original post by Jimbo1234
Then google it
Oh, so you're a woman so you know everything there is? With that broken logic your claim means you could also be a gynecologist.
No - it just makes you ignorant and arrogant.
So as I thought you do need a dictionary.
Oh and that reply does make you look not the smartest person in the world.
Oh, so you're a woman so you know everything there is? With that broken logic your claim means you could also be a gynecologist.
No - it just makes you ignorant and arrogant.
So as I thought you do need a dictionary.
Oh and that reply does make you look not the smartest person in the world.
No, that means, I live what you think you you're so knowledgeable about. which is more than just reading words off a page, I assure you.
I am much more intimately aware of my own body, than any specialist will ever be. Obviously I not completely crazy in terms of seeking help, but, I know my body....not that you need to know.
I accept that I may be ignorant about certainly not arrogant, passionate maybe.
Meh, your entitled to your opinion.... I guess.
Original post by NHM713
Are you calling me dumb?
Why not, you've already made this response.
Why not, you've already made this response.
What? No, I'm not calling you dumb.
I was merely stating that the vigour shown in your posts is impressive, and even admirable.
Then I was annoyed by the fact that it took forever to find the start of the conversation, to gain context. (though that might might not have been clear.)
Then simply that I didn't agree with all of what either of you said, but I wasn't going to make a reply, because it would take too much time at that moment..
Some things to think about:
If someone decides to go out naked, are they being sexualised / sexualising themselves?
If someone dresses so minimally, to the point that they are practically naked, are they being sexualised / sexualising themselves?
Where is the line drawn? Yes it's subjective; what some people (typically older generations) think is too revealing and sexualising is obviously different than what some modern teenage girl has been brainwashed into thinking is normal.
To me this is more about respect for others, not about who is sexualising themselves/others...
Just as I'm sure the majority of the public don't want to see butt-naked people roaming the streets, people also don't to see people who are essentially naked -- e.g. shorts so short that arse cheeks are hanging out etc).
You can't say "well don't look", "you're just sexualising me, that's your own fault". Would that argument hold if a butt-naked person said it? No. You'd tell them you don't want to see that when out and about.
If someone decides to go out naked, are they being sexualised / sexualising themselves?
If someone dresses so minimally, to the point that they are practically naked, are they being sexualised / sexualising themselves?
Where is the line drawn? Yes it's subjective; what some people (typically older generations) think is too revealing and sexualising is obviously different than what some modern teenage girl has been brainwashed into thinking is normal.
To me this is more about respect for others, not about who is sexualising themselves/others...
Just as I'm sure the majority of the public don't want to see butt-naked people roaming the streets, people also don't to see people who are essentially naked -- e.g. shorts so short that arse cheeks are hanging out etc).
You can't say "well don't look", "you're just sexualising me, that's your own fault". Would that argument hold if a butt-naked person said it? No. You'd tell them you don't want to see that when out and about.
Its partly because women in western societies have the choice to dress how ever they want to and also the media plays a major role in pressuring women to dress in a certain way. The media deeply sexualises women. Its rare to find a mainstream female artists that doesnt sexualise themselves in music videos and women on tv and in films tend to be highly sexualised too.
Growing up in that kind of society will pressure you into looking and dressing in a certain way. Im not saying im not guilty of that, I love my mini skirts and short shorts sometimes but I am aware that my environment has shaped the way I dress and see myself.
Growing up in that kind of society will pressure you into looking and dressing in a certain way. Im not saying im not guilty of that, I love my mini skirts and short shorts sometimes but I am aware that my environment has shaped the way I dress and see myself.
Original post by NHM713
No, that means, I live what you think you you're so knowledgeable about. which is more than just reading words off a page, I assure you.
I am much more intimately aware of my own body, than any specialist will ever be. Obviously I not completely crazy in terms of seeking help, but, I know my body....not that you need to know.
I accept that I may be ignorant about certainly not arrogant, passionate maybe.
Meh, your entitled to your opinion.... I guess.
I am much more intimately aware of my own body, than any specialist will ever be. Obviously I not completely crazy in terms of seeking help, but, I know my body....not that you need to know.
I accept that I may be ignorant about certainly not arrogant, passionate maybe.
Meh, your entitled to your opinion.... I guess.
You just don't know when to back down do you. Not only have you shown your lack of understanding the English language, but also lack of understanding when you can't argue. To think you know more than specialists just shows absolute arrogance or total ignorance of how complex these matters are. Seeing that you don't know what tenacity means (or how to google it), it is most certainly the latter.
Now either go study this topic or just stop replying/spamming.
Original post by TheAbyss
Its partly because women in western societies have the choice to dress how ever they want to and also the media plays a major role in pressuring women to dress in a certain way. The media deeply sexualises women. Its rare to find a mainstream female artists that doesnt sexualise themselves in music videos and women on tv and in films tend to be highly sexualised too.
Growing up in that kind of society will pressure you into looking and dressing in a certain way. Im not saying im not guilty of that, I love my mini skirts and short shorts sometimes but I am aware that my environment has shaped the way I dress and see myself.
Growing up in that kind of society will pressure you into looking and dressing in a certain way. Im not saying im not guilty of that, I love my mini skirts and short shorts sometimes but I am aware that my environment has shaped the way I dress and see myself.
Exactly. I myself get nervoud around women who dress this way as I get bullied by these types of women.
Original post by XcitingStuart
What? No, I'm not calling you dumb.
I was merely stating that the vigour shown in your posts is impressive, and even admirable.
Then I was annoyed by the fact that it took forever to find the start of the conversation, to gain context. (though that might might not have been clear.)
Then simply that I didn't agree with all of what either of you said, but I wasn't going to make a reply, because it would take too much time at that moment..
I was merely stating that the vigour shown in your posts is impressive, and even admirable.
Then I was annoyed by the fact that it took forever to find the start of the conversation, to gain context. (though that might might not have been clear.)
Then simply that I didn't agree with all of what either of you said, but I wasn't going to make a reply, because it would take too much time at that moment..
Oh ok
, Thanks.
Original post by Jimbo1234
You just don't know when to back down do you. Not only have you shown your lack of understanding the English language, but also lack of understanding when you can't argue. To think you know more than specialists just shows absolute arrogance or total ignorance of how complex these matters are. Seeing that you don't know what tenacity means (or how to google it), it is most certainly the latter.
Now either go study this topic or just stop replying/spamming.
Now either go study this topic or just stop replying/spamming.
Well, if I'm ignorant, then it's in the right sense and you should join me, it's bliss.
Original post by NHM713
Well, if I'm ignorant, then it's in the right sense and you should join me, it's bliss.
You just have to get that last word in, even if it is degrading for yourself. Well, least it proves everything I said to be true
Original post by Jimbo1234
You just have to get that last word in, even if it is degrading for yourself. Well, least it proves everything I said to be true
Well, it's one of my many habits. It's not degrading, not at all. How? No it doesn't, as you're basing it off your own opinion.
Anyone see Jose Mourinho’s daughter? That's what I call a girl sexualising herself. An interesting artile here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3230086/We-know-feel-Jose-Chelsea-manager-glowers-dressed-18-year-old-daughter-two-battle-scared-parents-share-experiences.html
What I’ve learnt about the teenage law of diminishing wardrobe is that it has nothing to do with the worries that keep me awake at night. My daughters don’t care that they look slutty or — as I have pointed out during many rows — as if they’re ‘asking for it’.
Quite simply, they dress that way because everybody else their age does. Yes, I know. It doesn’t stop men ogling at them. But the girls seem oblivious and not bothered.
I’ve lectured them endlessly about not taking chances, or getting into dodgy taxis, and I know that deep down they’re wonderfully sensible girls.
Quite simply, they dress that way because everybody else their age does. Yes, I know. It doesn’t stop men ogling at them. But the girls seem oblivious and not bothered.
I’ve lectured them endlessly about not taking chances, or getting into dodgy taxis, and I know that deep down they’re wonderfully sensible girls.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by GodAtum
Anyone see Jose Mourinho’s daughter? That's what I call a girl sexualising herself. An interesting artile here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3230086/We-know-feel-Jose-Chelsea-manager-glowers-dressed-18-year-old-daughter-two-battle-scared-parents-share-experiences.html
Have you seen Miley Cyrus, recently. I'm no prude, but, that is going to far for fame.
I applaud the tsr posters who agree with me,who share my values and the ones who do not are just ignorant and need to grow up.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by Phoebe-fuller
Firstly, women don't dress for the sole purpose of impressing men.
Secondly, women aren't sexualising themselves by wearing clothing. That is YOU who is sexualising their body based on what clothes they are wearing.
Secondly, women aren't sexualising themselves by wearing clothing. That is YOU who is sexualising their body based on what clothes they are wearing.
That's utter crap
Posted from TSR Mobile
Its bad behaviour, but as long as they aren't profiting from it then fair dos.
Original post by Underscore__
Care to elaborate? Not arguing with you I'm just interested in why you think that.
Latest
Trending
Last reply 5 days ago
Why is the political left now censorious and authoritarian??Last reply 5 days ago
Is it true that British unis are prejudiced towards degrees from Scottish unis?Last reply 5 days ago
If the Russell Group was now a fair representation of what it still claims to beLast reply 2 weeks ago
TSR Goes Green: How important will the environment be in this year's election?Last reply 2 weeks ago
Research Rankings of universities if you add Research Quality & Intensity percentagesLast reply 1 month ago
Is University of Birmingham prestigious and respected well enough in UK ?Trending
Last reply 5 days ago
Why is the political left now censorious and authoritarian??Last reply 5 days ago
Is it true that British unis are prejudiced towards degrees from Scottish unis?Last reply 5 days ago
If the Russell Group was now a fair representation of what it still claims to beLast reply 2 weeks ago
TSR Goes Green: How important will the environment be in this year's election?Last reply 2 weeks ago
Research Rankings of universities if you add Research Quality & Intensity percentagesLast reply 1 month ago
Is University of Birmingham prestigious and respected well enough in UK ?
