Computer Science Degrees That Don't Need Maths

If they don't require maths the course will be designed to give you whatever maths assistance is needed.

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Yeah i ask them that thing you said but i might speak with some office staff because they email me back with nonsense answer so i might have to speak with some lecture if they got assist i will pick it up for sure but can i post here the link too see if they need maths?

http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/computer-networking-and-cyber-security---bsc-hons/ here is the link if can anyone help i would appreciate it thanks a lot. I hope i will find a solution on my probs ♡

Hey, I'm just wondering, from the perspective of someone about to enter a CS / Software Engineering degree (with plenty of maths background, but less programming experience) - isn't maths an absolutely critical part of CS? I would assume you need a solid base in linear algebra, differential equations, and calculus to do all sorts of things: AI and machine learning, cyber security, even graphics and physics engines for game design. It just seems like such a core part of the subject. For those unis that don't require maths for entry to their programs, how do they deal with that? Is first year just an intense crash course in maths? If so, doesn't that take away learning time from all the other stuff? Are the programs noticeably different?

How up to date is this post? I can see that Newcastle is listed here as not requiring maths but on it's website "GCSE Mathematics grade B or 6 required."

This thread is about A-Level maths requirements. Nearly all of those universities will probably require a B or C at GCSE.

Hey, I'm just wondering, from the perspective of someone about to enter a CS / Software Engineering degree (with plenty of maths background, but less programming experience) - isn't maths an absolutely critical part of CS? I would assume you need a solid base in linear algebra, differential equations, and calculus to do all sorts of things: AI and machine learning, cyber security, even graphics and physics engines for game design. It just seems like such a core part of the subject. For those unis that don't require maths for entry to their programs, how do they deal with that? Is first year just an intense crash course in maths? If so, doesn't that take away learning time from all the other stuff? Are the programs noticeably different?

This is a very late response to your question but hopefully may be helpful to others!
Yes, you're right. Maths is a critical foundation to Computer Science. However, not everyone who has the aptitude to be a talented computer scientist chooses maths at A-level which is why we don't specify maths, or indeed computer science, as an A-level requirement. At the University of Kent the first year of the Computer Science programmes are spent getting our students, from a variety of academic backgrounds, to the same level of maths and programming knowledge (specifically object-oriented programming). For some of our students the first year is a chance to consolidate existing knowledge (whilst also learning new things), for others it is a steeper learning curve.

Might depend on the university. My brother for example got into KCL for comp sci with only a BTEC in ICT and a year of relevant work experience and is currently a front office associate software engineer for Goldman Sachs (and a very good one at that), and he didn't even know what differentiation was when I asked him the other day (not kidding).

Honestly if ur gonna do computer science without maths whats the point. Computer science is nothing but problems solving and so is maths, which is why all the good unis require you to have maths so that they know you have a strong sense of problem solving. Those "rusell group" unis that allow Comp Sci without maths arent even in the top 10 to 15 in the Computer Science Top Unis list. Them being "Russel Group" doesn't meant ****, simply because its a Russel Group due to how the uni is as a WHOLE, for example, Kings is really good for Science related courses like Medicine and BioChem however in terms of computer science it is nowhere near good. Maths is imperitive for a strong computer science career. If you don't like maths then maybe rethink why u are doing CS in the first place since its heavily maths. Even if u make it to uni CS without maths, most jobs require u to have it, without out it u will probs get quite a low paying job. And seeing as most people here are doing CS for the money mainly and not for the love of problem-solving (seeing as they dont like maths) then it goes to show u might aswell re-consider ur career seeing as u won't make much money in CS without maths anyways.

People tend to study non-mathematical Computer Science degrees to find jobs based in computing and technology - of which about 95% are not mathematical at all and don't even particularly need a degree, although university is a good place to learn those skills.

For example, there's no need for maths in jobs such as software engineering, hardware engineering, web development, networking, infrastructure, cybersecurity, devops/techops, etc. -- These all tend to be highly-paid and highly-skilled jobs, although the skills needed for them usually don't involve any mathematical modelling, nor solving esoteric mathematical problems either. Instead they're about understanding technology and solving problems which are rooted in the real-world of applying technology to problems about businesses and people as well as to hardware/software tools/devices.

The purpose of studying a non-mathematical Computing/CompSci degree is to learn the skills to solve technical problems for the real world (for example, skills in programming, databases, operating systems, APIs, software frameworks, agile project planning, data representation, cloud computing, GUI design, and many other similarly non-mathematical topics). They're also about solving problems related to building/maintaining computer systems which are used by people and businesses -- that typically includes things like being able to work with complex data, automating manual processes, analysing business requirements, understanding how people/users interact with technology, being able to learn how software systems work and what they do, understanding electronic communication, securing against threats, making things user-friendly/human-friendly, etc.

There's no need at all to have mathematical skills in any of these, most people who do these kinds of jobs are not mathematicians, and indeed businesses generally couldn't care in the slightest about hiring mathematicians to do non-mathematical jobs.

First of all, reading over these I can clearly see some of the words you used. "Problem-solving" "Analysing data" all of which are key skills in mathematics.

A lot of people misunderstand mathematics as just doing questions and equations. No, its mainly about Problem-solving and lateral thinking which is key in any Computer Science related job. Which is exactly why all the Top Computer Science course in Unis require Maths A-Levels, no Uni that says they don't need maths for CS is even in the top 20 Computer Science unis and it really goes to show how important it is.

Coming from experience I can tell you that all employers look at what uni you went to and that really impacts their decision about hiring you.

And for CS, yes employers 100% care about your Maths skills, forget problem-solving and stuff aswell , maths is related to CS so much just as much as maths is related to Physics. The reason some people say that CS doesn't need maths is because they think CS is all about just coding, no its more than that, coding is much more than what people think. There are so many elements of maths in coding and CS that ppl dont understand.

First of all, reading over these I can clearly see some of the words you used. "Problem-solving" "Analysing data" all of which are key skills in mathematics. A lot of people misunderstand mathematics as just doing questions and equations. No, its mainly about Problem-solving and lateral thinking which is key in any Computer Science related job. Which is exactly why all the Top Computer Science course in Unis require Maths A-Levels, no Uni that says they don't need maths for CS is even in the top 20 Computer Science unis and it really goes to show how important it is. Coming from experience I can tell you that all employers look at what uni you went to and that really impacts their decision about hiring you. And for CS, yes employers 100% care about your Maths skills, forget problem-solving and stuff aswell , maths is related to CS so much just as much as maths is related to Physics. The reason some people say that CS doesn't need maths is because they think CS is all about just coding, no its more than that, coding is much more than what people think. There are so many elements of maths in coding and CS that ppl dont understand.

Hey everyone I'm Littleswany one of the CAs for this forum.

I have seen a couple of discussions here about wether Maths is needed to study Computer Science at X University, or can I go to a good uni to study CS even though I didn't take math.So this thread.

I will try to keep it updated be please let me know if something needs updating

Russell Group Universities for CS that dont need Maths:







Other Universities for CS that don't need Maths



* - Grade B at GCSE maths and above & Thanks to @Princepieman for contributing these

⁺ - Require a mathsy/science subject (CS or Maths or Physics or Chemistry or Econ) & Thanks to @Princepieman for contributing these