Professor says career ‘effectively ended’ by union’s transphobia claims

Something that you all seem to have missed is Stock is a trustee of the LGB Alliance, a transphobic group that wishes to stop trans people recieving treatment and barring education on trans matters.

They don't "wish to stop treatment", they are against children being given puberty manipulating drugs on the basis of supposed gender dysphoria, as are a great many other people.

Withholding treatment is stopping treatment.

Not really. Withholding treatment is different from stopping treatment.

Withholding treatment is stopping treatment.

Think the crux is that it's not a "treatment" at all.

You know this has been through multiple court actions and is not the simplistic cut and dried thing you imply. The Supreme Court is still to rule on it.

Are they or are they not advocating for the cessation of treatment?

First of all one has to show clearly that the individual needs this type of treatment and this treatment won't have long term consequences for their mental and physical health.

That's why the word withholding instead of stopping should be used into my understanding.

LGB Alliance wants to stop the treatment not weigh up whether it is the appropriate treatment for the patient.

LGB Alliance wants to stop the treatment not weigh up whether it is the appropriate treatment for the patient.

Again, you are misrepresenting. They don't want unwarranted and dangerously irreversible severe medical interventions to be given to children who may simply be going through a phase, or misguided by ideologically driven parents.

Again, you are misrepresenting. They don't want unwarranted and dangerously irreversible severe medical interventions to be given to children who may simply be going through a phase, or misguided by ideologically driven parents.

And the children that do in fact want and need the treatment, should they too be denied treatment?

If you stopped Joe Bloggs in the street and asked him if he agreed with Kathleen Stocks position, chances are he would.

Risk of physical violence aside, she has been subject to an utterly shameful hate campaign. This has most likely been orchestrated by a small group of biter and deeply unhappy individuals who probably need some form of psychiatric help and who also must face appropriate legal consequences.

I agree that it is probably serious, I wanted to know why RAR thought it wasn’t.

The correct people to ask that question of are the adults who now bitterly regret having had such 'treatments' applied to them before they had the capacity and experience to evaluate the consequences.

Again, you are misrepresenting. They don't want unwarranted and dangerously irreversible severe medical interventions to be given to children who may simply be going through a phase, or misguided by ideologically driven parents.

Yeah good point. Did you ever question how you felt at the age of 5? I didn't. I found girls pretty and wanted to kiss them just as all of the gay people I know wanted to kiss people of the same sex when they were 5. But hey - sexuality and trans-gender is a social construct if you are cis right and entirely the result of peer pressure. I reckon I was only attracted to my wife because my parents made it absolutely clear that I had to fancy girls. It must be awful for all these confused children who know what their feelings are but are told it is just a phase!

You are confused.
Children don’t understand adult sexuality because they are children. I am not saying that some people can’t look back retrospectively at their childhood and pick out feelings or behaviours that indicated their sexuality to come, but when a 5 year old boy kisses another 5 year old boy making the assumption that the child must therefore be gay is deeply disturbing.
Before someone accuses me of homophobia, I only care about someone’s sexual orientation when I want to have sex with them.
Unless you are living with homophobes or live in a particularly homophobic country, there aren’t any long term implications that come with getting your sexuality ‘wrong’.

Political paedophiles often argue that children have an adult understanding of their sexuality and whilst I am not suggesting that are a paedo, you should think about who else shares your beliefs.