Why are British people proud of NHS?

he's right. it's because of the US 'die if you can't afford insurance' system which is responsible for brainwashing Brits into thinking their system of public healthcare is somehow special

I don't think they are right in that referencing one countries healthcare weakens the argument for another's, that's just a petty argument tactic imo. But I'd agree it does provide us with a 'super evil' baseline to compare ourselves to positively.

But they're also claiming 3 months and more to see a Doctor! and other such suss statements, so 0 right points. None.

What I don't get is people who complain about the NHS can always go private, private healthcare is still an option here in case some people think the NHS is ****

How is a system that makes you wait 3 months or more to see a doctor can be considered functional, let alone something to be proud of?

Spoiler: people who complain but don't go privare can't afford private

for me, it's the equality we show everyone no matter their job or income which I am most proud of the NHS. Using the US as the example, people on a lower income are treated as lower class citizens with regards to healthcare and often have to choose between rent and healthcare. Life and death is treated more as a commodity with that kind of system
Edit: also for the elderly, you essentially pay into a pot your whole life, for when you need it so essentially a rainy day fund you don't control

I agree we worship it just because it's free..

People think if we don't have NHS we have to have USA style medical.
They forget most European countries & Australia have decent cheap healthcare too.

There was a 49 week wait to see a specialist at my local - that's a year to see one person! Ridiculous!
With private medical it was 4 week wait.

The NHS wasn't always like this - if the tories weren't purposefully driving it into the ground to make going private seem like a necessity in order to appease their big pharma buddies, it would be perfectly functional. We should be proud as a country to have the NHS, it proves that we at least believe that being healthy is a human right, not only reserved for the rich. You should understand that this isn't a NHS problem, it's a leadership one.

Because you don't end up in a massive amount of debt after surgery, you don't have to take an uber to the hospital, and medications like insulin is actually affordable unlike the states. I'm not saying that it's perfect and there are definitely improvements to be made, but it's a lot better than what Americans have.

Actually - many jobs give our private medical care as a perk of the job. Not many pay out of their own pocket

How is a system which is free at the point of delivery and available to all based on clinical need rather than ability to pay not something to be proud of?

you can't just say it's their fault all the time

Both my parents have worked all their life. Both of them have had many different jobs. Both now have relatively well paid jobs. Neither of them have EVER been offered free access to private health care. It seems as though you may be living inside a bit of a privilege bubble.

Cause it's free but shite. Cancer survival rates are awful compared to 1st world countries & out waiting lists can be up to 12 months for simple stuff.
I haven't heard many good stories about it personally

you can't just say it's their fault all the time

Actually - many jobs give our private medical care as a perk of the job. Not many pay out of their own pocket

Why compare it with America that's extreme. Plenty of countries offer very cheap healthcare better than the UK. With shorter waiting lists. Please research healthcare of places other than USA

That's because nobody's going to go swinging from the rafters screaming about how they had eye surgery and didn't lose their eye. It's sensationalised media that's giving the idea that everyone gets a bad treatment from the NHS, many of which are in the tory pocket.