Why are British people proud of NHS?

Lol a lot of my own relatives were shafted. And trying to get appointments myself. These are personal stories and my own experience not media hype. Also media stories can be correct and factual e.g ambulance waiting times in Wales are crazy

Provide statistics of the percentage of jobs that actually provide private healthcare in the UK and what the jobs are.


Name the countries. I've already said that the NHS isn't perfect and every healthcare system has its flaws.

At this rate it's so far from perfect.
Australia, Germany, France, Sweden etc. all have better healthcare

Ambulance waiting times are crazy because the NHS does not have the funding to hire an adequate amount of ambulance drivers. Once again, not an NHS problem, but a tory one.

And in those countries you will hear horror stories of people dying from papercuts because they couldn't afford to see a bloody doctor. I am so very confused why you seem so adamant that the solution to the NHS problem is simply to abandon it and everyone who can't afford to go private?

Even if it's "cheap" (this seems to be a rather relative term), there will still be those who cannot afford it. Plus the whole principal of having to pay to stay alive is ridiculous. We should focus on fixing the NHS, not selling it out and leaving behind the most vulnerable members of our society to die.

Hahaha the NHS is underfunded partly because it's so expensive in the first place! How much should we be pumping into it? How many billions does it take to have decent healthcare. Just make everyone take out medical insurance. We pay for the dentist no-one complains about that constantly

At this rate it's so far from perfect.
Australia, Germany, France, Sweden etc. all have better healthcare

Hahaha the NHS is underfunded partly because it's so expensive in the first place! How much should we be pumping into it? How many billions does it take to have decent healthcare. Just make everyone take out medical insurance. We pay for the dentist no-one complains about that constantly

Never had to wait longer than a week in all my life.

Naive. Those who can't afford it in other countries get it free. Just like the dentist - people on benefits don't pay or get a huge discount.

Australia has issues but people don't die on the street because they can't afford healthcare. Same in France or Germany?
You watched too much Breaking Bad

Also we do pay for the NHS technically. We just have no control over where the money goes. I wish i didn't get taxed for it.

Naive. Those who can't afford it in other countries get it free.

"Research other healthcare systems". Proceeds to list commonwealth/EU countries. France also has long wait times for non urgent cases, Germany and Australia doesn't cover dental care at all.


You do realise that dental care is subsidised by the NHS, right? https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/dentists/dental-costs/how-much-will-i-pay-for-nhs-dental-treatment/
It is a lot cheaper to get dental care in the UK compared to the countries you listed. Why do you think that everyone can afford medical insurance? You're not provding alternatives to people who are less well-off and I can tell you made an account just to pick a fight with people as you dislike the NHS based on personal experience.

Once again, if you've never heard people saying anything about expensive dentist bills then I suggest you're living in a privilege bubble. If more effort was putting into streamlining the NHS it would not cost so much, and even then you cannot put a price on human life. It's not like the government doesn't spend truly exorbitant amounts on nuclear weapons development.

Privileged bubble 😂 sorry I don't kiss NHS ass.
Why make this about nuclear weapons - you're changing the topic. We spend vast amounts of money on NHS and it's still not very good.
Tory & labour governments both underfunded it because it's so hard to fully fund.

Yep NHS has done jack for people I know.
It's subsided by the government but my point still stands - we happily pay for the dentist but paying for the GP would be really bad? Why?
What's wrong with listing EU/commonwealth countries?
At the end of the day NHS model has not been vastly copied. Going semi private is what most countries have - it's not that scandalous to suggest it.

What countries?

Hahaha the NHS is underfunded partly because it's so expensive in the first place! How much should we be pumping into it? How many billions does it take to have decent healthcare. Just make everyone take out medical insurance. We pay for the dentist no-one complains about that constantly

Australia has Medicare which allows people to get access to public hospitals including inpatient care, medical services, drugs. Students & low income residents get medical treatment free

Yep NHS has done jack for people I know.
It's subsided by the government but my point still stands - we happily pay for the dentist but paying for the GP would be really bad? Why?
What's wrong with listing EU/commonwealth countries?
At the end of the day NHS model has not been vastly copied. Going semi private is what most countries have - it's not that scandalous to suggest it.

Yeah done jack for the private posh people you know. You see your GP who would refer you to a specialist when appropriate. Costs would pile up quickly if many referrals are needed or for costly treatments/scans. Dentists usually only refer to specialists when they detect other problems or needs more facilities. Listing only developed countries show that healthcare is a luxury for some people. We are fortunate enough to have access to free healthcare while you're trying to dismantle it. Each country has its own needs so no country will replicate a model exactly, but most countries with public healthcare systems usually have a higher life expectancy and quality of life.