Why are British people proud of NHS?

Once again, if you've never heard people saying anything about expensive dentist bills then I suggest you're living in a privilege bubble. If more effort was putting into streamlining the NHS it would not cost so much, and even then you cannot put a price on human life. It's not like the government doesn't spend truly exorbitant amounts on nuclear weapons development.

It's not that hard, the last labour government just had a very expensive war to fund (**** you Tony Blair) and the tory government actually stands to benefit off a defunct NHS. What is so hard for your brain to grasp here? You're refusing to give statistics, refusing to give more than the same 3 EU countries as examples and then saying that we're changing the subject when we point out flaws in your logic. Are you sure you just don't like sharing?

I agree we worship it just because it's free..

People think if we don't have NHS we have to have USA style medical.
They forget most European countries & Australia have decent cheap healthcare too.

There was a 49 week wait to see a specialist at my local - that's a year to see one person! Ridiculous!
With private medical it was 4 week wait.

You said countries...Australia is only a country.

Mate you haven't given stats to say why NHS is so wonderful.

Gov website:
Despite this, cancer survival in England remains lower than similar countries in Europe and around the world according to recent studies. These international comparisons have been reported by International Cancer Benchmarking Partnership (ICBP), EUROCARE-5 and CONCORD-3.

You can cover labour but they did the same as Tories are doing. Neither parties funded it properly

I lived there so I have more in depth knowledge of Australia. I can explain it in more detail but I doubt you will care. Do you have a legit response?

Naive. Those who can't afford it in other countries get it free.

we happily pay for the dentist but paying for the GP would be really bad? Why?

One recommended site when comparing other national health care services: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/articles/big-election-questions-nhs-international-comparisons

Most other EU countries have the same waiting times generally. At the end of the day, how long your waiting time is depends on where your local area is anyway. Can't always blame the NHS for it.

Don't need to argue as if long waiting times is due to public funding. Once you remove the public-funding bit and become fully privatized, the patients will just flock onto the same medical centre anyway. It is not as if 60% or 70% of patients in your local are people living in poverty. You would even get ridiculous waiting lists in the US too.

Logically, this entire argument is just pitiful and faulty honestly

That’s a good question and the answer is because if all dental work was completely subsidised by the NHS, it would become bankrupt before the end of the year.

When the NHS was set up in 1948, dental care was actually completely free. However by 1952, the demand for dentures, amongst other care, was so high that it did almost bankrupt the system. As such, fees for dental treatment were introduced to avoid the collapse of the NHS.

People complain about dentistry being expensive, which is fair enough, but that’s because it genuinely is an expensive industry, rather than dentists just being greedy and wanting to pocket 99% of your money

The fact is if governments have to spend ridiculous amounts on the NHS when they could copy most other countries and introduce semi-private system. It can't get worse than it currently is now...

Switzerland has one of the lower waiting times. Only 12% have to wait over a day to see a doctor. In Switzerland it's also compulsory to have private medical insurance. Compare to the worst Canada 33% who have a similar system to us with tax funded healthcare. In UK it's 21% which isn't awful but certainly not good. From these stats there's an argument that tax funded healthcare systems tend to have longer waiting times to see doctors.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/health-care-wait-times-by-country

I don't think they are right in that referencing one countries healthcare weakens the argument for another's, that's just a petty argument tactic imo. But I'd agree it does provide us with a 'super evil' baseline to compare ourselves to positively.

But they're also claiming 3 months and more to see a Doctor! and other such suss statements, so 0 right points. None.

Yep NHS has done jack for people I know.
It's subsided by the government but my point still stands - we happily pay for the dentist but paying for the GP would be really bad? Why?
What's wrong with listing EU/commonwealth countries?
At the end of the day NHS model has not been vastly copied. Going semi private is what most countries have - it's not that scandalous to suggest it.

In that case why aren't you complaining about how the firefighters arent' "free"?

Because I'm getting a good service from them, my money is getting spent well.

Do you have house fires often, then?

Haha that was quite hilarious ngl....

sounds awfully inconvenient, non?

Do you have house fires often, then?