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AQA A-Level Politics Paper 3 - 7152/3 16 June 2023 [Exam chat]

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Original post by IsMiseGeorge
Thank you for these - 9 markers for the non-core ideology can’t come up can they? Also, just to clarify - I’m sure you know but you definitely don’t need synoptic links in a 9 marker. Keep them to the 25s!

Out of interest, why are you anticipating liberalism? Socialism hasn’t been assessed for longer.


I was wondering this too however socialism came up in the sample specimen paper meaning socialism as a 25 marker has come up on a paper twice while liberalism has just come up once.

Also besides that, can anyone help me categorise these socialist thinkers into what type of thinker they are?
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
Rosa Luxemburg
Beatrice Webb
Anthony Crosland
Anthony Giddens

All I know is that Marx and Engels are revolutionary socialist thinkers.
Original post by Aimen.Faisal
I was wondering this too however socialism came up in the sample specimen paper meaning socialism as a 25 marker has come up on a paper twice while liberalism has just come up once.

Also besides that, can anyone help me categorise these socialist thinkers into what type of thinker they are?
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
Rosa Luxemburg
Beatrice Webb
Anthony Crosland
Anthony Giddens

All I know is that Marx and Engels are revolutionary socialist thinkers.


That’s a good point - liberalism isn’t too difficult so that’s fine.

Luxembourg would be considered a revolutionary socialist as she had strong syndicalist views but she also established the German Communists to contest elections, so she’s not quite as revolutionary as people like Lenin. Good evaluation in a 9 marker - division exists even amongst revolutionary socialists.

Beatrice Webb is a Fabian socialist who wanted to work with Parliament, textbook gradual/evolutionary socialist - same sort of brand as Crosland really.

Giddens is Third Way.
Original post by Aimen.Faisal
I was wondering this too however socialism came up in the sample specimen paper meaning socialism as a 25 marker has come up on a paper twice while liberalism has just come up once.

Also besides that, can anyone help me categorise these socialist thinkers into what type of thinker they are?
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
Rosa Luxemburg
Beatrice Webb
Anthony Crosland
Anthony Giddens

All I know is that Marx and Engels are revolutionary socialist thinkers.

Luxembourg is revolutionary too, Webb is gradualism/ ballot box, Giddens is third way, I'd call crossland social democrat
No, the 9 markers are only for socialism, liberalism and conservatism - I would only link each 9 marker back to its main idea (e.g. class and private property for socialism, freedom for the individual for liberalism and authority for conservatism
Original post by IsMiseGeorge
Thank you for these - 9 markers for the non-core ideology can’t come up can they? Also, just to clarify - I’m sure you know but you definitely don’t need synoptic links in a 9 marker. Keep them to the 25s!

Out of interest, why are you anticipating liberalism? Socialism hasn’t been assessed for longer.
Marx and Engels: Fundamentalist socialists - Classical Marxists (revolutionary)
Rosa Luxemburg: Fundamentalist socialist - Marxist-Leninist (revolutionary)
Beatrice Webb: Fundamentalist socialist - Evolutionary socialist - Gradualist
Anthony Crosland - Revisionist socialist - Social democrat
Anthony Giddens - Revisionist socialist - Neo-revisionist - Third Way
Original post by Aimen.Faisal
I was wondering this too however socialism came up in the sample specimen paper meaning socialism as a 25 marker has come up on a paper twice while liberalism has just come up once.

Also besides that, can anyone help me categorise these socialist thinkers into what type of thinker they are?
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels
Rosa Luxemburg
Beatrice Webb
Anthony Crosland
Anthony Giddens

All I know is that Marx and Engels are revolutionary socialist thinkers.
thanks i understand it now
appreciate it :biggrin:
Reply 46
Hi! Does anybody have any general tips for this paper as my teachers taught it to us in about a month so not very confident. Mostly confused about the use of examples and structure of the extract q. Thanks :smile:
Reply 47
Original post by IsMiseGeorge
Thank you for these - 9 markers for the non-core ideology can’t come up can they? Also, just to clarify - I’m sure you know but you definitely don’t need synoptic links in a 9 marker. Keep them to the 25s!

Out of interest, why are you anticipating liberalism? Socialism hasn’t been assessed for longer.


Of course not: the main thing for non-core is knowledge of key thinkers and their relevance to topics (which are basically the same as core ideologies) so this is how I remembered making notes.

I should've been more specific, but synopticity was by no means linked to the 9 markers: you're right. In the context of (a possible question on) liberalism, it is very easy to mention the UK or US for very easy technique marks.

I just anticipate Liberalism because it hasn't been popular as an extract.
Reply 48
Original post by SSFD23
Hi! Does anybody have any general tips for this paper as my teachers taught it to us in about a month so not very confident. Mostly confused about the use of examples and structure of the extract q. Thanks :smile:

The examples are essentially the views of the thinker, which is kind of what makes this paper easier because theres not as much to remember unlike paper 1 and 2. For example, if we are discussing human nature and socialist thinkers your example would be: 'Marx had the view that...' and analysis would be comparing it to another thinker's view. The extract questions are the same as paper 1 and 2: highlighting the arguments in the source, comparing and contrasting the views in the source to other key thinkers we study but only develop arguments that are in the source. Don't worry too much about provenance as often it is just directly from the works of the thinker. If thats the case, make the provenance about the context of the thinker, why they are writing what they have written, the motivations and the overall context of the time period they're in. I hope this helps :smile:
Reply 49
Original post by mnbi
The examples are essentially the views of the thinker, which is kind of what makes this paper easier because theres not as much to remember unlike paper 1 and 2. For example, if we are discussing human nature and socialist thinkers your example would be: 'Marx had the view that...' and analysis would be comparing it to another thinker's view. The extract questions are the same as paper 1 and 2: highlighting the arguments in the source, comparing and contrasting the views in the source to other key thinkers we study but only develop arguments that are in the source. Don't worry too much about provenance as often it is just directly from the works of the thinker. If thats the case, make the provenance about the context of the thinker, why they are writing what they have written, the motivations and the overall context of the time period they're in. I hope this helps :smile:

thanks that makes so much more sense now!
Original post by mnbi
The examples are essentially the views of the thinker, which is kind of what makes this paper easier because theres not as much to remember unlike paper 1 and 2. For example, if we are discussing human nature and socialist thinkers your example would be: 'Marx had the view that...' and analysis would be comparing it to another thinker's view. The extract questions are the same as paper 1 and 2: highlighting the arguments in the source, comparing and contrasting the views in the source to other key thinkers we study but only develop arguments that are in the source. Don't worry too much about provenance as often it is just directly from the works of the thinker. If thats the case, make the provenance about the context of the thinker, why they are writing what they have written, the motivations and the overall context of the time period they're in. I hope this helps :smile:

for the 9 markers is there a requirement of comparing specific thinkers view on what the question is stating?
e.g a socialism 9 marker on the role of the state, can I pick out 3 random thinkers or would there be more preferred 3 thinkers to choose from.
Reply 51
Original post by Aimen.Faisal
for the 9 markers is there a requirement of comparing specific thinkers view on what the question is stating?
e.g a socialism 9 marker on the role of the state, can I pick out 3 random thinkers or would there be more preferred 3 thinkers to choose from.


There isn't specific thinkers to compare it to, you can compare it to whoever. However, it does look impressive if you were to compare thinkers in the same branch of the ideology. For example, comparing Luxemburg and Marx would look good as it shows that you're aware that even though they're both revolutionary socialists, they have differing views on certain concepts.
Original post by mnbi
There isn't specific thinkers to compare it to, you can compare it to whoever. However, it does look impressive if you were to compare thinkers in the same branch of the ideology. For example, comparing Luxemburg and Marx would look good as it shows that you're aware that even though they're both revolutionary socialists, they have differing views on certain concepts.


thanks, makes sense
(9 marker)
socialism- has not been asked a question on the society or the economy
liberalism- has not been asked a question on the economy.
conservatism- has not been asked a question on the state or society
(doesn’t apply to the 25 markers)

are there any other key topics which you guys think haven't come up apart from the typical 'human nature, the state, society and the economy' like socialism had a 9 marker on equality
I'm thinking the 9 markers will be on something broader than just state/economy/society/human nature - as personally I think the 9 markers across the other two papers were more niche so I'm thinking this trend will carry on. like how last year had a 9 marker on tradition - so focusing more on the values of the ideology
i am confused on how to categorise the conservative thinkers as what type of thinker they are:
Thomas Hobbes (political philosopher)
Edmund Burke (conservative thinker)
Michael Oakeshott (conservative philosopher)
Ayn Rand (philosopher and novelist)
Robert Nozick (political philosopher)


is this correct or is there a better phrase of wording what kind of thinker each are?
Reply 56
can anyone help with the structure of the statement essay? my teacher never taught us how to do it and i'm panicking because i've never done the statement essay for feminism before
Original post by Aimen.Faisal
i am confused on how to categorise the conservative thinkers as what type of thinker they are:
Thomas Hobbes (political philosopher)
Edmund Burke (conservative thinker)
Michael Oakeshott (conservative philosopher)
Ayn Rand (philosopher and novelist)
Robert Nozick (political philosopher)


is this correct or is there a better phrase of wording what kind of thinker each are?

By “type of thinker”, it means which branch of conservatism they belong to, rather than the provenance of their ideas.

For example, Hobbes and Burke are both traditionalist conservatives; Oakeshott is a one nation conservative; Rand and Nozick are New Right thinkers.
Original post by IsMiseGeorge
By “type of thinker”, it means which branch of conservatism they belong to, rather than the provenance of their ideas.

For example, Hobbes and Burke are both traditionalist conservatives; Oakeshott is a one nation conservative; Rand and Nozick are New Right thinkers.

omg yeah this rings a bell now! i remember my teacher saying this.
thank you sm lol i was so confused on google but this was the answer i was looking for :h:
Just out of curiosity, what was the popular opinion regarding the papers in your schools/classes? Did most people agree that they were easy or difficult? :confused:

I'm really hoping for lenient grade boundaries as I pray for them to be set low. However, it seems like many of my classmates excelled in the paper, and I'm certain there are majority of others across the UK who did exceptionally well too. :s-smilie:


I haven't encountered anyone who struggled with the paper as much as I did, which is now causing me concern and stress. I just hope that I won't be negatively impacted by strict grade boundaries especially since it is rumoured to follow the strict 2019 grade boundaries... :frown::frown:

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