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Reply 1
The graduate prospects are significantly better at Newcastle, on one measure. There's not that much else to differentiate them on, apart from location.

At Cardiff the Politics is done as part of the School of European Studies. Therefore, I imagine they have more of an emphasis on comparative politics and the politics of the EU. Newcastle's politics department, on the other hand, is part of the School of Geography, Politics and Sociology.
Reply 2
North vs South...:ninja:
Reply 3
toon
Reply 4
Two of my favourite cities :love: Prepare for an essay.

Both are similar in many ways. For a start they are both very student orientated, quite young and vibrant. Newcastle has quite a reputation for being the party capital of the country (and even Europe) but it has its laid back, cultured side with some great theatres, museums and galleries (particularly since the gentrification of the quayside of capital of culture bid). Cardiff too has a good cubbing secen (so I am told) and also went for the capital of culture bid for 2008. So it's also seen a great deal of investment and regeneration. With Newcastle it's largely the quayside, with Cardiff it's the bay area (great for recreation, good museums and restaurants). Both also act as a great base for exploring the wider region. Both have great countryside on their doorstep although Newcastle (with Northumberland and County Durham's castles and World Heritage Site) take it for me. That said, Wales isn't short of castles either.

Another similarity is that both are quite compact city centres, which really works in their favour. They are certainly two difference cities though and there are certain contrasts. The most striking include: -

Both have a great music scene but very different ones. Newcastle gets its fair share of major bands and artists, Cardiff does but to a slightly lesser extent. Newcastle has a great local scene (more unisgned bands than any other city outside London), there are also some great clubs for all tastes (rock, jazz, hip hop). But Cardiff certainly has a scene all of its own. I think its strong Welsh identity is seen most of all in its art as well as its music. Both are very interesting and exciting scenes.

Architecture. I don't really know how important this is to you. Newcastle is one of the most beautiful city centres in the country in my opinion. It has plenty of grand Neo-classical architecutre (and modern architecture eg. Sage). Cardiff seems to be a lot younger and its architecture reflects this. When I first visited Cardiff my first impression was that it was quite sterile. My first impression is wrong. But Cardiff. The uni still has some grand buildings though, based in the old civic buildings and they include some white, neo-classical buildings. Both have castles, but Newcastle has the proper castle

Weather. Cardiff is warmer but has far more rain; Newcastle is milder but drier.

But both cities have it all, clubs, bars, restaurants, shopping, theatre, culture. Both also offer a reasonable cost of living, again helping their status as "student cities".

Newcastle probably does better graduate prospects wise (graduates in employment, above average graduate salary) but I wouldn't let this influence you too much. You can still have great career prospects from Cardiff as it too is a fine uni. It's up to you to put the effort in. At the end of the day you're the one who makes your own career prospects, not the university. As for the politics department, I don't know a great deal about the courses and areas they cover. Both are solid departments though. Do you have any preference course-wise?

I may be back this evening to give a more detailed comparison between the two, if you're interested in anything specific then let me know. I'm also moving it to the politics forum.
Reply 5
Newcastle is a great city, don't know much about Cardiff. You might like to know it was voted a year or two ago by students as the second best nightlife Uni, only behind Leeds. Both are great choices though do not get me wrong.
Reply 6
River85
Two of my favourite cities :love: Prepare for an essay.

Both are similar in many ways. For a start they are both very student orientated, quite young and vibrant. Newcastle has quite a reputation for being the party capital of the country (and even Europe) but it has its laid back, cultured side with some great theatres, museums and galleries (particularly since the gentrification of the quayside of capital of culture bid). Cardiff too has a good cubbing secen (so I am told) and also went for the capital of culture bid for 2008. So it's also seen a great deal of investment and regeneration. With Newcastle it's largely the quayside, with Cardiff it's the bay area (great for recreation, good museums and restaurants). Both also act as a great base for exploring the wider region. Both have great countryside on their doorstep although Newcastle (with Northumberland and County Durham's castles and World Heritage Site) take it for me. That said, Wales isn't short of castles either.

Another similarity is that both are quite compact city centres, which really works in their favour. They are certainly two difference cities though and there are certain contrasts. The most striking include: -

Both have a great music scene but very different ones. Newcastle gets its fair share of major bands and artists, Cardiff does but to a slightly lesser extent. Newcastle has a great local scene (more unisgned bands than any other city outside London), there are also some great clubs for all tastes (rock, jazz, hip hop). But Cardiff certainly has a scene all of its own. I think its strong Welsh identity is seen most of all in its art as well as its music. Both are very interesting and exciting scenes.

Architecture. I don't really know how important this is to you. Newcastle is one of the most beautiful city centres in the country in my opinion. It has plenty of grand Neo-classical architecutre (and modern architecture eg. Sage). Cardiff seems to be a lot younger and its architecture reflects this. When I first visited Cardiff my first impression was that it was quite sterile. My first impression is wrong. But Cardiff. The uni still has some grand buildings though, based in the old civic buildings and they include some white, neo-classical buildings. Both have castles, but Newcastle has the proper castle

Weather. Cardiff is warmer but has far more rain; Newcastle is milder but drier.

But both cities have it all, clubs, bars, restaurants, shopping, theatre, culture. Both also offer a reasonable cost of living, again helping their status as "student cities".

Newcastle probably does better graduate prospects wise (graduates in employment, above average graduate salary) but I wouldn't let this influence you too much. You can still have great career prospects from Cardiff as it too is a fine uni. It's up to you to put the effort in. At the end of the day you're the one who makes your own career prospects, not the university. As for the politics department, I don't know a great deal about the courses and areas they cover. Both are solid departments though. Do you have any preference course-wise?

I may be back this evening to give a more detailed comparison between the two, if you're interested in anything specific then let me know. I'm also moving it to the politics forum.


Cardiff gets quite a few big names playing in the union or around the place. I haven't actually been to Newcastle so I can't compare them, but Cardiff is a really nice city be in with plenty to do and the student accommodation is very good.

More importantly, Cardiff hosts the Great British Cheese Festival in Cardiff Castle. (Well, it did this year) 'nuff said. :woo:
Reply 7
mfc20
Newcastle is a great city, don't know much about Cardiff. You might like to know it was voted a year or two ago by students as the second best nightlife Uni, only behind Leeds. Both are great choices though do not get me wrong.


Newcastle? It may have been, but there are even more polls and surveys that it tops. It usually ranks as the top student and party city and often top five in the world (which I think is going too far).

But both have nightlife in abundance and it's not all just clubs.
Reply 8
Newcastle isn't known for its arts. It's more of an engineering /sciences university.

Cardiff is best for politics.
Reply 9
MrGumby
Cardiff gets quite a few big names playing in the union or around the place. I haven't actually been to Newcastle so I can't compare them, but Cardiff is a really nice city be in with plenty to do and the student accommodation is very good.


Cardiff has plenty of the mid to large acts, don't get me wrong. Any city the size of Cardiff (or Newcastle) and one that has a large student population will ge tplenty of acts.

Cardiff has, at the very least, the Globe, Barfly, CIA, Millennium stadium, unions and small venues. Newcastle has two student unions, Carling (02) academy, Sage (which hosts a range of genres including classical, jazz, folk, rock, pop) and the arena and its small venues. Plus St James' Park, although that's still primarily a football stadium and isn't used much as a music venue. They are quite evenly matched venue wise imo. But when it comes to the major acts touring it's Newcastle that usually has the edge. For the next few months (artists with varying levels of international recognition some rubbish and some certainly not rubbish :tongue: ): -

Cardiff

Kaiser Cheifs, Bob Dylan, Pete Doherty, The Killers, Boyzone

Newcastle

Kaiser Cheifs, Metallica, Maximo Park, Pete Doherty, The Killers, David Bryne, Girls Aloud, Boyzone, Beyonce, Nickelback and Pink

Neither list is exhaustive but Cardiff only have Dylan, and it's unlike Bob Dylan not to play Newcastle as he often does and always has since the 60s. I've seen him three times in Newcastle but will have to travel to Edinburgh to see him come May.

Often it's just London, Birmingham, Glasgow and Manchester ( annoys me as all but one are in the west). When it's not then Newcastle is often included, Cardiff is but slightly less so.

But it's still the local music scene when both come into their own.

Rowaboat
Newcastle isn't known for its arts. It's more of an engineering /sciences university.


Politics isn't an art, it's a social science. Why do you think Cardiff is better, it helps if you justify and back up these things otherwise it isn't really much help.

Yes Newcastle's strengths are probably in medicine, the sciences (incl. agricutlure) and engineering but it also has an excellent law department and excellent social science departments. It has some excellent arts departments too. A university the size of Newcastle (or Cardiff) has good research and top quality teaching across the board.

It's a bit like saying Durham's only known amongst many for its arts courses and law, so don't got there for physics, when it has a world class physics department that trounces the others. Or that Birmingham, being a redbrick, is also more sciences and engineering uni when it has, amongst other things, an excellent law and politics department. That Manchester Met is an "ex-poly" and therefore only good for vocational courses, when it has a very good philosophy departments (amongst other things).

A stereotype isn't necessarily true. Just a uni is particularly strong in a few specialist fields, as unis do tend to be, it doesn't mean it isn't still very good in the others.

There's little to chose between Newcastle and Cardiff academically, not in politics, it really comes down to course content and preferred areas. Why do you think Cardiff is stronger in politics?
Reply 10
River85


Neither list is exhaustive but Cardiff only have Dylan, and it's unlike Bob Dylan not to play Newcastle as he often does and always has since the 60s. I've seen him three times in Newcastle but will have to travel to Edinburgh to see him come May.



I'm going to see Dylan in Cardiff in April. :woo:

I don't know too much about Newcastle so I was just putting an input in on Cardiff. Most student city's would get a decent handful of bands I would presume...
Reply 11
I'm surprised over how quickly you answered. I didn't mention it earlier, but I'm applying to only do an exchange year in the UK and I'm right now trying to decide between which of the universities I want to study at. I've never been to any of the cities and I actually don't know anything at all about Wales. But I've heard that both of the universities are good and I think I would enjoy both of them.

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