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Howard
But again, you're assuming that this will combat real child pornography without a jot of evidence. It could encourage it for all you know.
Oh, sorry. I wasn't actually saying the proposal of animated porn would combat real child pornography, I was merely replying to the point she made in her post.
Nativeenglish
Uh, you're so dense. I research whatever I find interesting, not what I find appealing. And I think combating real child pornography is quite a worthy cause, to be honest.
Yep, your "research" is really going to make all the difference, and I'm "dense" because I don't approve of creating images of child pornography, animated or otherwise. You're such a deep-thinking intellectual for agonising over this. What an arse.
ArcadiaHouse
Yep, your "research" is really going to make all the difference, and I'm "dense" because I don't approve of creating images of child pornography, animated or otherwise. You're such a deep-thinking intellectual for agonising over this. What an arse.
What are you actually on about? You attacked me for spending a little time to "research" into alternative methods to child pornography, I wasn't saying you had to agree with the creation of animated child pornography. How about you attack my actual points (in regards to the actual debate) instead of creating a pathetic little argument calling me a social retard for looking into it?
Those who follow the manga scene might know about this, but I doubt the majority do.
There's already been a case about this in the USA, it caused quite a furor in certain circles. The defendant goes by the name of Christopther Handley, he pleaded guilty.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Christopher+Handley
I'm apathetic to drawn child porn, pedophilies will find some form of child porn one way or another. I'd rather they be drawn than a real child subjected to such horrible things. Although obviously it's probably not so simple as that.
Plus the fact that there are other drawn media out there that portrays this, but is legal. For example, Alan Moores The Lost Girls.
There's already been a case about this in the USA, it caused quite a furor in certain circles. The defendant goes by the name of Christopther Handley, he pleaded guilty.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Christopher+Handley
I'm apathetic to drawn child porn, pedophilies will find some form of child porn one way or another. I'd rather they be drawn than a real child subjected to such horrible things. Although obviously it's probably not so simple as that.
Plus the fact that there are other drawn media out there that portrays this, but is legal. For example, Alan Moores The Lost Girls.
Nativeenglish
Oh, sorry. I wasn't actually saying the proposal of animated porn would combat real child pornography, I was merely replying to the point she made in her post.
I'm open-minded about this. I'm not going to shrink back in horror at the idea but I'm not going to embrace it with open arms either. I really doubt there's anywhere near enough research been done on this to come to any sort of conclusion.
berryripple
NE, your posts are disturbing me more and more the further I read into this thread - it actually seems like you're fighting for paedophile rights or something?
Not "rights" as such, because that'd mean the "right" to express their sexuality physically, which would essentially mean child abuse. But I would fight for the recognition that peadophilies aren't monsters and shouldn't be demonised, yes.
this argument has already been had on TSR. and it went round in circles for days. seriously pointless thread.
elziebelzie
this argument has already been had on TSR. and it went round in circles for days. seriously pointless thread.
Nobody's forcing you to discuss it, or even post, go discuss Big Brother or something.
Nah. I doubt anyone could really point out any real 'animated-children-having-sex' porn, as it is now. There's Japanese stuff, but that's not created purely for the kiddie-lovers- the debate with existing stuff is whether or not you can put an 'age' on animation, as the subjects aren't deliberately drawn to be young children.
As people have said, there is the issue of people being introduced to it and realising they like it, and also that of desensiting and it becoming a 'norm' of sorts. All in all, a wishy-washy proposal.
As people have said, there is the issue of people being introduced to it and realising they like it, and also that of desensiting and it becoming a 'norm' of sorts. All in all, a wishy-washy proposal.
BumperBo
People on tsr are so weird! They keep posing this idea! As if it doesn't exist o.O
Btw, I believe my sig applies here ;D
Btw, I believe my sig applies here ;D
Heh indeed, It is amusing how innocent some people are. If your into H rated content you practicly have to have the manovering skills of a hummingbird on steriods to avoid what this topic is theorising the creation of.
And OP, this is currently one of the most sensitive topics in our culture. There's a huge amount of emotion attached to it at all levels and almost eveyone will react in an emotive state either because they belive that it is the ultimate evil or they have thought about it and have spotted some flaws in the current thinking but are too afriad of being labeled as pedophile supporters to talk about it in public. So don't be supprised about peoples attitude.
Your talking about it openly which takes some serious courage so props to you, keep thinking. Yes pedophilia is evil but some of the things that go on in the name of combating it are damn right silly.
I think a more visible thing along the lines of what you suggest would be legalising prostitution and having prostitutes who look underage but are perfectly legal. I watched a (Louis Theroux?) documentary about prostitution in America once, and one of the brothels there had a twenty-something girl who physically looked very young. People would sometimes pick her straight away, and it would all be very hush-hush. That sounds like more of a reliable 'release'.
DisgruntledMoth
I think a more visible thing along the lines of what you suggest would be legalising prostitution and having prostitutes who look underage but are perfectly legal. I watched a (Louis Theroux?) documentary about prostitution in America once, and one of the brothels there had a twenty-something girl who physically looked very young. People would sometimes pick her straight away, and it would all be very hush-hush. That sounds like more of a reliable 'release'.
That's interesting. I think I'd support that.
DisgruntledMoth
Nah. I doubt anyone could really point out any real 'animated-children-having-sex' porn, as it is now. There's Japanese stuff, but that's not created purely for the kiddie-lovers- the debate with existing stuff is whether or not you can put an 'age' on animation, as the subjects aren't deliberately drawn to be young children.
As people have said, there is the issue of people being introduced to it and realising they like it, and also that of desensiting and it becoming a 'norm' of sorts. All in all, a wishy-washy proposal.
As people have said, there is the issue of people being introduced to it and realising they like it, and also that of desensiting and it becoming a 'norm' of sorts. All in all, a wishy-washy proposal.
How about prescribing it to the people who ask for help, then applying much harsher punishments/sentences to the people who don't ask for help, but instead go and abuse a child? Not just making it illegal and readily available?
EskimoJo
Do you think that's feasible or currently occurs?
It currently happens pedophiles who are caught are sent to jail
BillyBlanks
It currently happens pedophiles who are caught are sent to jail
So are you morally opposed to those attracted to children masturbating?
EskimoJo
How about prescribing it to the people who ask for help, then applying much harsher punishments/sentences to the people who don't ask for help, but instead go and abuse a child? Not just making it illegal and readily available?
Interesting idea, but I do think that it would leak somewhere along the line. Just the whole process of actually making child-specific animation pornography would be incredibly unusual and would lack backing. As I said before, there aren't studios dedicated to this sort of thing, and even creating animation for treatment of individuals is unheard of.
It would be expensive as well- not something the average taxpayer would support in the slightest. Ooh arr me monies goin to the pedophiles.
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