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I don't believe in karma i think people use it as an excuse when something bad happens to something. For example if you do something bad to someone then a few years later something bad happens to you that isn't directly related is it karma? No because since it isn't related it would probably happen anyway, however if it is related it isn't karma its the other pissed off person who is following the human instinct of revenge.

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Greghouse

nolongerhearthemusic

But how? Surely it depends on an afterlife?

I think that Karma repays you in this life not in the next ... Kinda like in my name is earl ... :biggrin:

If you go good things good things will happen to you. You've just got to wait and believe.

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Greghouse

I think that Karma repays you in this life not in the next ... Kinda like in my name is earl ... :biggrin:

If you go good things good things will happen to you. You've just got to wait and believe.

Depends what religious thought of school you believe, if any, but almost all say karma effects are witnessed over a period of lifetimes.

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nolongerhearthemusic

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Greghouse

I think that Karma repays you in this life not in the next ... Kinda like in my name is earl ... :biggrin:

If you go good things good things will happen to you. You've just got to wait and believe.

Oh right, I've never heard of Karma like that before.

Not at all.

Charzhino

Depends what religious thought of school you believe, if any, but almost all say karma effects are witnessed over a period of lifetimes.

nolongerhearthemusic

Oh right, I've never heard of Karma like that before.

Ya, it's a more of a weastern way of looking at it but I honestly can't belive that a God of anysort would continually make someone suffer for something they did in another life (sins of the father etc).

I think it's more direct, but not neccesarily obviously so ...

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SnowAngel

Yes.
It's happened loads of times thankfully :h:

Reply 51

Greghouse

Ya, it's a more of a weastern way of looking at it but I honestly can't belive that a God of anysort would continually make someone suffer for something they did in another life (sins of the father etc).

I think it's more direct, but not neccesarily obviously so ...

It wouldn't be God's fault there suffering, it would be only down to the persons own bad deeds that have resulted in the punishment. When talking about another 'life' it's essentially the same person as it's the same soul that has transmigrated and not a different person.

Reply 52

Greghouse

Charzhino

It wouldn't be God's fault there suffering, it would be only down to the persons own bad deeds that have resulted in the punishment. When talking about another 'life' it's essentially the same person as it's the same soul that has transmigrated and not a different person.

Yeah, I see what you're saying but I just always assume it's God who sets the gules for the game.

Also, unless you remember who you were or what you did in your last life, it may as well be considered another life ... Right?

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Greghouse

Yeah, I see what you're saying but I just always assume it's God who sets the gules for the game.

Also, unless you remember who you were or what you did in your last life, it may as well be considered another life ... Right?

Yes God would set the rules of the game but he would not cause unwanted suffering, unlike in Christianity and Islam where there is seemingly no genuine explanation of why people are born into suffering other than, God knows best.

I don't think according to the doctrine of reincarnation you will know who you where in the past life, but there have been studies on people who claim to recall past lives with accuracy, which can be found on wikipedia, but I don't really believe that.
As for a different life, not really because the soul is the same. The body is just a vehicle for the soul. Think of it like a car and a driver, where the driver is the soul. The driver can drive many cars but he will always remain the constant.

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Tzar_Chasm

Yeah, Stalin murdered over 20 million people and lived his life in complete luxury and he was (and often still is) seen as a national hero. Karma? Lol wat

Reply 55

Hylean

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I used to, but I'm beginning to lose faith in it.

Reply 56

Greghouse

Charzhino

Yes God would set the rules of the game but he would not cause unwanted suffering, unlike in Christianity and Islam where there is seemingly no genuine explanation of why people are born into suffering other than, God knows best.

I don't think according to the doctrine of reincarnation you will know who you where in the past life, but there have been studies on people who claim to recall past lives with accuracy, which can be found on wikipedia, but I don't really believe that.
As for a different life, not really because the soul is the same. The body is just a vehicle for the soul. Think of it like a car and a driver, where the driver is the soul. The driver can drive many cars but he will always remain the constant.

err ... You've lost me ... :confused:

What point were we trying to get to?

Reply 57

Shiny Dirt

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No.
people wanting revenge should do something about it themselves and not leave it to 'fate'
if something bad happen to you, surely you did something to deserve it if that's the case? and then it's just an on going cycle
people who have been through bad experiences and up-bringing can be led into doing more wrong, so there's a reason for what bad they do and not just because of 'fate'

edit: and when something bad happens to you that isn't related to the wrong you've done before, then it's not karma as there's no link

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