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Original post by luno
Soo had a one-sided heart to heart with a friend who is currently seeing a counsellor. We chatted online and she thanked me for being such a good friend and said how I don't ask enough of her and how she wants to help me like I help her. I was seriously so close to opening up to her but I don't want her to worry about me.
Also I usually prepare myself for leaving the house and I make sure everything is planned and I know what I'm doing. But my friend suddenly asked me to come shopping and I was out the house in 5 mins. In the shop I was fidgeting and shaking and tapping my feet... I just felt really self-conscious and nervous, well more than normal. So much so that my friend noticed and questioned me and random people were staring. I don't know what was happening or what I'm trying to explain.
Why am I not asleep?
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Also I usually prepare myself for leaving the house and I make sure everything is planned and I know what I'm doing. But my friend suddenly asked me to come shopping and I was out the house in 5 mins. In the shop I was fidgeting and shaking and tapping my feet... I just felt really self-conscious and nervous, well more than normal. So much so that my friend noticed and questioned me and random people were staring. I don't know what was happening or what I'm trying to explain.
Why am I not asleep?
.your friend sounds nice yeah, I know can be hard but if they are your friend they will just want to help and be supportive so may well be okay to talk to them about things
sorry to hear you had a hard time of it, it can be really hard sometimes to cope in shops I know, just try not to think about other people there and just try to relax as much as you can, is there anything you normally do that might help in future when you go out? even is just asking your friend to give you a few more minutes beforehand im sure they won't mind!
Still awake 
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Still awake
you tried having some warm milk or reading a book maybe? im told that can help!Original post by SciFiRory you tried having some warm milk or reading a book maybe? im told that can help!
you tried having some warm milk or reading a book maybe? im told that can help!Haven't tried either of those actually
I'm trying to get my sister to come onto Skype (she lives in the US and is 5 hours behind us) but if she doesn't respond, then I might try reading something. Thanks hun Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Haven't tried either of those actually I'm trying to get my sister to come onto Skype (she lives in the US and is 5 hours behind us) but if she doesn't respond, then I might try reading something. Thanks hun
I'm trying to get my sister to come onto Skype (she lives in the US and is 5 hours behind us) but if she doesn't respond, then I might try reading something. Thanks hun ah, cool, hopefully she does then! no worries
if you wanna chat to someone on Skype btw then feel free to add me (scifiboy1) 
Original post by SciFiRory
ah, cool, hopefully she does then! no worries if you wanna chat to someone on Skype btw then feel free to add me (scifiboy1)
if you wanna chat to someone on Skype btw then feel free to add me (scifiboy1) Cheers hun
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Cheers hun
no worries
hope you get some sleep soon!
Original post by Sultana
Thank you.
I don't start therapy until September, just have to hold it together until then! I know that mental illness is real, its just hard applying that to myself.
I guess deep down I don't really consider myself to be ill, more overreacting and self pitying. And then if I do let myself think that it is an illness, I almost feel worse for 'allowing' myself to get ill when others who have been through similar experiences do not. I just thought I was a stronger and more positive and resilient person than I really am. Logically I do realise that is mostly nonsense, theres just always a small part of me telling me how worthless and horrible I am.
My doctor referred me in the morning, and they came out to see me at 1 in the morning. I would have thought they'll see you within a day or so, kind of defeats the purpose of a crisis team otherwise! Going by my experiences, if you tell them/ they have reason to believe you can't keep yourself safe thats when they'll talk about hospital. They knew I was suicidal for about a month, but it was only when I had actually got a plan, a time frame, the means and couldn't tell them why I wouldn't do it that they hospitalised me.
I don't start therapy until September, just have to hold it together until then! I know that mental illness is real, its just hard applying that to myself.
I guess deep down I don't really consider myself to be ill, more overreacting and self pitying. And then if I do let myself think that it is an illness, I almost feel worse for 'allowing' myself to get ill when others who have been through similar experiences do not. I just thought I was a stronger and more positive and resilient person than I really am. Logically I do realise that is mostly nonsense, theres just always a small part of me telling me how worthless and horrible I am.My doctor referred me in the morning, and they came out to see me at 1 in the morning. I would have thought they'll see you within a day or so, kind of defeats the purpose of a crisis team otherwise! Going by my experiences, if you tell them/ they have reason to believe you can't keep yourself safe thats when they'll talk about hospital. They knew I was suicidal for about a month, but it was only when I had actually got a plan, a time frame, the means and couldn't tell them why I wouldn't do it that they hospitalised me.
Is there any way you could speed up the referral? If you go to your doctor and emphasise that you aren't coping they might be able to do something for you
I know how you feel; it's one thing giving others advice, but applying it to yourself is an entirely different story. I don't think you're overreacting though, and I say that from a neutral and objective point of view. To challenge that thought; would you feel bad for losing your hearing after playing in an orchestra for 30 years even if others you worked with didn't lose theirs? Everyone is different 
I thought I was a lot stronger than I actually am as well. I think you get so good at putting on a brave face that you believe you're really resilient, but it doesn't take much to break the façade. That doesn't make you a weak person though!
Thanks for the information
Not looking too good then, seeing as I made an attempt on Saturday and my parents think I'm going to make another one. Ah well, will just have to wait and see I guess.Original post by bytail
People with experience of the crisis team:
How long do they usually take to come out and assess you? Was referred to them today, should I expect to hear from them by the end of the week? What are their criteria for taking you out of the community?
How long do they usually take to come out and assess you? Was referred to them today, should I expect to hear from them by the end of the week? What are their criteria for taking you out of the community?
For me it's ranged from 4 hours up to 48 hours (the latter being after a hospital discharge, the former was in an emergency), so I imagine it would be rather soon, so before the end of the week yes. In terms of taking you out of the community into hospital, their criteria would probably be something along the lines of your level of risk is not able to be managed by being seen once a day by them. I think it's pretty vague, probably so it can be adapted to a lot of people.
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Original post by bytail
Hopefully! The beds are very uncomfortable 
Not much good for hiding in imo.
Sorry to hear that
I'm also having a lie-in-bed-and-ignore-the-world day. Have you spoken to anyone yet? Any idea how long they'll keep you in?
Not much good for hiding in imo.Sorry to hear that
I'm also having a lie-in-bed-and-ignore-the-world day. Have you spoken to anyone yet? Any idea how long they'll keep you in?I've seen some nurses but I haven't seen my consultant yet. She has given me some leave (30 mins escorted everyday) so at least I am allowed out for a little bit. And no idea how long I will be in, I've been allocated a Occupational Therapist to work with me though and we are starting my discharge plan now so I don't end up back here once I get out, whenever that will be.
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Original post by Sabertooth
No, I haven't seen my CPN in weeks because she cancelled twice on me as she was ill. I am seeing her next week so I think I'll tell her than how things are. I think the problem might be stress related, I've got a lot going on right now and I'm really pushing myself with my dissertation, don't think I can handle this much pressure. 
And thanks. I hope you feel better too and get out of there soon enough, hospital was so so so so horrible so you definitely have my sympathy You can always post on TSR for distraction though. 
And thanks.
I hope you feel better too and get out of there soon enough, hospital was so so so so horrible so you definitely have my sympathy You can always post on TSR for distraction though. Standard NHS then... Yeah, you should tell her what's going on. Yeah I can see how that would be pretty stress inducing, I don't know much about dissertations so I have no real advice except I hope you get it done soon!
Thank you. Its not too bad in here (ok, it's pretty ****ing ****, but for a hospital, it's not bad
). But they've just moved this guy into the room next to me who laughs all night long, no sleeping meds can make me sleep through that. Managed not to shout at him, but if he does it again tonight, will be a different story!This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App
So I text my girlfriend saying I love her after a small disagreement (at 7 in the bloody morning) and she doesn't text me back for nearly an hour. And this completely ruins me and sends me into panic. How pathetic am I?
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Original post by bullettheory
So I text my girlfriend saying I love her after a small disagreement (at 7 in the bloody morning) and she doesn't text me back for nearly an hour. And this completely ruins me and sends me into panic. How pathetic am I?
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Maybe she was sleeping/phone on silent/thinking what to reply.
It doesn't necessarily have to be an indication of something negative, especially not that you are pathetic in any way! It's very understandable that you got panicked by that.
Original post by bullettheory
So I text my girlfriend saying I love her after a small disagreement (at 7 in the bloody morning) and she doesn't text me back for nearly an hour. And this completely ruins me and sends me into panic. How pathetic am I?
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that's not pathetic, it's understandable given how you have been lately and if you had bad experiences before, and don't worry I used to get like insanely upset/paranoid when my ex didn't text me back for a while, heck I get distraught if a friend doesn't reply to a message I send them for a while, it's so easy when you are ill to be hugely affected by even the slightest thing that might make you feel sad or paranoid! just saying your not the only one so you aren't pathetic at all!
I finally got a phone call the other day from that counselling service I was waiting on for 3 months, and now I've booked a session for next week. I'm really nervous though now that I know it's actually going to happen, and especially because after chatting with people on this thread it sounds like CBT or some other therapy might benefit my problems more than just talking which I think counselling is. This might sound silly but I'm chickening out a little and I'm in two minds about whether to cancel or not (I'd at least have to move it anyway cos of my new job) .
I now have a temporary job that should pay well and help me save enough to go do some travelling in the near future, so I'm not even as depressed as I used to be anymore (although, not knowing what career I want is still quite stressful, but I'm trying to work on that). If I'm depressed it's more to do with other people being either disappointments or mean, which is more their fault than mine really. I think if I somehow find some more reliable and friendly people to hang with, I'd start to feel more than OK. But where I'll find them, I don't really know.
I now have a temporary job that should pay well and help me save enough to go do some travelling in the near future, so I'm not even as depressed as I used to be anymore (although, not knowing what career I want is still quite stressful, but I'm trying to work on that). If I'm depressed it's more to do with other people being either disappointments or mean, which is more their fault than mine really. I think if I somehow find some more reliable and friendly people to hang with, I'd start to feel more than OK. But where I'll find them, I don't really know.
Original post by SciFiRory
your friend sounds nice yeah, I know can be hard but if they are your friend they will just want to help and be supportive so may well be okay to talk to them about things
sorry to hear you had a hard time of it, it can be really hard sometimes to cope in shops I know, just try not to think about other people there and just try to relax as much as you can, is there anything you normally do that might help in future when you go out? even is just asking your friend to give you a few more minutes beforehand im sure they won't mind!
sorry to hear you had a hard time of it, it can be really hard sometimes to cope in shops I know, just try not to think about other people there and just try to relax as much as you can, is there anything you normally do that might help in future when you go out? even is just asking your friend to give you a few more minutes beforehand im sure they won't mind!Yeah, she's amazing
. I know she would want to know. We've been best friends since we were children and she is one of the few things that are keeping me going. I know she would also be upset that I haven't mentioned anything at all. But I don't want to sound pathetic or attention seeking... I often think what would I say to her or a doctor but it just feels awkward and I just feel like I'm whining and moaning and nothing in particular. I also think if I tell her I would start distancing myself from her.
I want her to get better and counselling is helping her so much and I don't want her to worry about me when she needs to be focusing on herself.
I think in regard to speaking to anyone I'm going to see how my placement abroad works out... I'm hoping it'll be amazing and the change I need. But if it isn't I'll definitely speak to someone.
The weird thing is I've never had a problem like that in shops before
. I guess I subconsciously prepare myself for leaving the house. I always have notes on my phone about what I'm doing or who I'm meeting and on the day I always give myself plenty of time to get ready. I think next time I unexpectedly have to go out, if I can, I will wait for a bit. Thank you for replying
. Sorry to read to read about you going to A&E and stuff. You said you don't want to post what triggered you but if you ever want to talk about it, I (and many other lovely people on this thread) are just a PM away 
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Original post by bullettheory
For me it's ranged from 4 hours up to 48 hours (the latter being after a hospital discharge, the former was in an emergency), so I imagine it would be rather soon, so before the end of the week yes. In terms of taking you out of the community into hospital, their criteria would probably be something along the lines of your level of risk is not able to be managed by being seen once a day by them. I think it's pretty vague, probably so it can be adapted to a lot of people.
Thanks for the information
Wish they'd hurry up and contact me, I'm sick of playing the waiting game.Original post by bullettheory
I've seen some nurses but I haven't seen my consultant yet. She has given me some leave (30 mins escorted everyday) so at least I am allowed out for a little bit. And no idea how long I will be in, I've been allocated a Occupational Therapist to work with me though and we are starting my discharge plan now so I don't end up back here once I get out, whenever that will be.
Well that's good
Hopefully you can work through things fairly quickly and be out again soon!Has anybody else on here really grown just to be comfortable with their own company and not with anybody elses after long periods of isolation?
For the whole of last year I pretty much saw my GP once a week for 10 minutes, someone in the Dean of Students' at uni an average of 3 times a week and said "hi" to flatmates on the stairs. I spent the rest of my time either alone in my room or walking aimlessly on my own with music or podcasts playing.
Whilst I did feel a little isolated at times, I also found interacting with my flatmates pretty excruciating if it was for more than 10 minutes at a time. Now I'm back home I've met up with 3 or 4 people locally, who are the only "old" friends of mine I'm still in touch with because I drifted from the rest of them when they went to uni a year before me and I didn't go drinking with them when they were back.
Trouble is, I find even being with those few people really... dull. They're really into reality tv and watching trashy stuff like Maury on youtube for hours on end.
I think part of the problem is that my interests are so different to theirs now (although I can still have a bit of a laugh with them), but I'm also wondering if I've just grown to not need as much human contact?
The psychiatrist and nurse I saw when I was at uni seemed concerned and wouldn't believe me when I said I wasn't lonely, but I'm honestly not.
It worries me a little that I'm missing out on loads of social stuff like pub visits and just general fun human interaction and the chance to meet potentially interesting people, but at the same time I'd rather just spend a lot of time out walking on my own and chilling out at home with my budgie and the tv on when I'm not out.
Sometimes I think it'd be nice to have a big, diverse group of friends again like I used to, to have relationships again and go to the cinema and sit in the park and stuff, but when I get in a position where somebody asks me out or I'm invited somewhere I find myself making excuses to leave early or even to not go at all.
Anyone else like this? I really don't think it's depression or anxiety. When I'm alone I'm perfectly cheerful - I'm going out taking photographs, I'm singing along with my iPod (when I'm sure I'm alone), I'm eating and sleeping fine, I'm not irritable, tearful etc.
But still I get the sense that this isn't normal, especially when I used to be such a social, loud, enthusiastic kid.
For the whole of last year I pretty much saw my GP once a week for 10 minutes, someone in the Dean of Students' at uni an average of 3 times a week and said "hi" to flatmates on the stairs. I spent the rest of my time either alone in my room or walking aimlessly on my own with music or podcasts playing.
Whilst I did feel a little isolated at times, I also found interacting with my flatmates pretty excruciating if it was for more than 10 minutes at a time. Now I'm back home I've met up with 3 or 4 people locally, who are the only "old" friends of mine I'm still in touch with because I drifted from the rest of them when they went to uni a year before me and I didn't go drinking with them when they were back.
Trouble is, I find even being with those few people really... dull. They're really into reality tv and watching trashy stuff like Maury on youtube for hours on end.
I think part of the problem is that my interests are so different to theirs now (although I can still have a bit of a laugh with them), but I'm also wondering if I've just grown to not need as much human contact?
The psychiatrist and nurse I saw when I was at uni seemed concerned and wouldn't believe me when I said I wasn't lonely, but I'm honestly not.
It worries me a little that I'm missing out on loads of social stuff like pub visits and just general fun human interaction and the chance to meet potentially interesting people, but at the same time I'd rather just spend a lot of time out walking on my own and chilling out at home with my budgie and the tv on when I'm not out.
Sometimes I think it'd be nice to have a big, diverse group of friends again like I used to, to have relationships again and go to the cinema and sit in the park and stuff, but when I get in a position where somebody asks me out or I'm invited somewhere I find myself making excuses to leave early or even to not go at all.
Anyone else like this? I really don't think it's depression or anxiety. When I'm alone I'm perfectly cheerful - I'm going out taking photographs, I'm singing along with my iPod (when I'm sure I'm alone
), I'm eating and sleeping fine, I'm not irritable, tearful etc.But still I get the sense that this isn't normal, especially when I used to be such a social, loud, enthusiastic kid.
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Original post by Nut.
Has anybody else on here really grown just to be comfortable with their own company and not with anybody elses after long periods of isolation?
For the whole of last year I pretty much saw my GP once a week for 10 minutes, someone in the Dean of Students' at uni an average of 3 times a week and said "hi" to flatmates on the stairs. I spent the rest of my time either alone in my room or walking aimlessly on my own with music or podcasts playing.
Whilst I did feel a little isolated at times, I also found interacting with my flatmates pretty excruciating if it was for more than 10 minutes at a time. Now I'm back home I've met up with 3 or 4 people locally, who are the only "old" friends of mine I'm still in touch with because I drifted from the rest of them when they went to uni a year before me and I didn't go drinking with them when they were back.
Trouble is, I find even being with those few people really... dull. They're really into reality tv and watching trashy stuff like Maury on youtube for hours on end.
I think part of the problem is that my interests are so different to theirs now (although I can still have a bit of a laugh with them), but I'm also wondering if I've just grown to not need as much human contact?
The psychiatrist and nurse I saw when I was at uni seemed concerned and wouldn't believe me when I said I wasn't lonely, but I'm honestly not.
It worries me a little that I'm missing out on loads of social stuff like pub visits and just general fun human interaction and the chance to meet potentially interesting people, but at the same time I'd rather just spend a lot of time out walking on my own and chilling out at home with my budgie and the tv on when I'm not out.
Sometimes I think it'd be nice to have a big, diverse group of friends again like I used to, to have relationships again and go to the cinema and sit in the park and stuff, but when I get in a position where somebody asks me out or I'm invited somewhere I find myself making excuses to leave early or even to not go at all.
Anyone else like this? I really don't think it's depression or anxiety. When I'm alone I'm perfectly cheerful - I'm going out taking photographs, I'm singing along with my iPod (when I'm sure I'm alone), I'm eating and sleeping fine, I'm not irritable, tearful etc.
But still I get the sense that this isn't normal, especially when I used to be such a social, loud, enthusiastic kid.
For the whole of last year I pretty much saw my GP once a week for 10 minutes, someone in the Dean of Students' at uni an average of 3 times a week and said "hi" to flatmates on the stairs. I spent the rest of my time either alone in my room or walking aimlessly on my own with music or podcasts playing.
Whilst I did feel a little isolated at times, I also found interacting with my flatmates pretty excruciating if it was for more than 10 minutes at a time. Now I'm back home I've met up with 3 or 4 people locally, who are the only "old" friends of mine I'm still in touch with because I drifted from the rest of them when they went to uni a year before me and I didn't go drinking with them when they were back.
Trouble is, I find even being with those few people really... dull. They're really into reality tv and watching trashy stuff like Maury on youtube for hours on end.
I think part of the problem is that my interests are so different to theirs now (although I can still have a bit of a laugh with them), but I'm also wondering if I've just grown to not need as much human contact?
The psychiatrist and nurse I saw when I was at uni seemed concerned and wouldn't believe me when I said I wasn't lonely, but I'm honestly not.
It worries me a little that I'm missing out on loads of social stuff like pub visits and just general fun human interaction and the chance to meet potentially interesting people, but at the same time I'd rather just spend a lot of time out walking on my own and chilling out at home with my budgie and the tv on when I'm not out.
Sometimes I think it'd be nice to have a big, diverse group of friends again like I used to, to have relationships again and go to the cinema and sit in the park and stuff, but when I get in a position where somebody asks me out or I'm invited somewhere I find myself making excuses to leave early or even to not go at all.
Anyone else like this? I really don't think it's depression or anxiety. When I'm alone I'm perfectly cheerful - I'm going out taking photographs, I'm singing along with my iPod (when I'm sure I'm alone
), I'm eating and sleeping fine, I'm not irritable, tearful etc.But still I get the sense that this isn't normal, especially when I used to be such a social, loud, enthusiastic kid.
If you're with it, then yes it's 'normal'. Only when it becomes distressing would it be a concern. Only thing is you said you used to be a lot more sociable. This could be a sign of it being associated with mental health or it could simply be a lifestyle change that has nothing to do with mental health.
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Errrr went for a coffee with an old friend from college. She ended up telling me how her friend was suicidal and how she thought it was attention seeking, how one of the girls in sixth form who ended up in a psych ward for bipolar was 'an absolute freak'. I just sat there thinking about my 6 admissions in the last 6 months and how I've been suicidal. I actually was wanting to tell her beforehand that things aren't ok, but I guess stigma is a bitch.
