Bashar al-Assad

if he goes there will be another completely destabilized zone (democracy of course according to the US)
we have learned nothing from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt ...

Oh, don't give me that speech. Yes, he's done atrocious things, but don't you claim that the hands of the west are clean. The scheming, plotting and organisation that goes into helping those "newly-made" government opposition groups really speaks for itself, and if you think that we're faultless in all of the major world conflicts that have happened recently, then you're a fool.

Care to direct me to precisely where I said the west are faultless? I'll give you a hint: you can't because I never did and you produced a strawman argument. You realise, don't you, that one can condemn a brutal and muderous dictator without thinking that the West is perfect? It's not a difficult concept lol.

"He said Assad is bad....he must therefore think that the West is perfect!"

That's you. I'll forgive you for the slander but in future you should be mindful not to attribute false positions to people as it does no favours for your arguments and is very intellectually dishonest. K thanks x

PS you also shouldn't try to dismiss all criticism of brutal and muderous dictators who slaughter their own people as "[insert dictator] bashing". Not a good look

Yeah because it's really peaceful at the moment

You also seem to think that genocidal dictators and Islamist theocracies who assist in the training of Jihadis is a tolerable situation. Yeah how about no.

You're also suggesting that Arabs and Afghans are too barbaric to be without oppressive and brutal regimes to keep them from slaughtering each other in sectarian retardation. Everyone who says that we should keep people like Assad, Saddam, Gaddafi etc so that we don't "destabilise" the region is saying that and it's downright racist. Which is ironic because a lot of these anti-Western people who say these things consider themselves to be "progressive". But the truth is that in their ignorance they only betray their own prejudices. Arabs need to be oppressed and dictated according to these people. Yours and their stance, not mine or UK's or America's. Stop denying the rights of people like Arabs and Afghabs of self-determination you racist bigot.

Whatever you're smoking, can I have some too please?

Look, unlike the Putinbots on here, I have a history of condemning Assad in a similar way to condemning ISIS. To suggest he should remain because he stops other terrible people is like saying South Africa should have kept Apartheid because the crime rate is now higher than it was.

But let's be real. Look at some of rebel groups. Can you tell me - with a straight face - that they'd be tolerant of Christians, Yazidis, Druze and Muslim miniorities like Alawites? You must be smoking crack to even entertain the idea.

Well, they'd be treated with justice.

Is that why Russia are bombing in areas where ISIS don't even operate? Switch off RT. You Putinbots can't justify Assad and Russia forever.

And some like my grandparents fought for such principles. They didn't flee when the firing started so why would we want those who are running away to come here?

I can't remember word for word but..


Hmm, I guess we'll see..

Because it's not safe for them to return?

No.

As I said they didn't flee in the first place.

Listen,I can tell you're a racist already.

And there you go.

You know I'm right but don't have an answer so go with that.

But I have issue with people who would so willingly abandon their roots to take advantages of a society they didn't contribute to. Simple fact is they've done it once they'll do it again and these are the people this country can do without given those who want to come here who should be welcomed (and have been welcomed) and be a part of this society people like my grandparents fought to build.

But hey I don't have to defend people giving up their roots nor do you really as you have the privilege of being one of us (something I doubt you would bee willing to give up so easily unlike those fleeing Syria at the moment)

Was his dissertation on releasing them from jail so that one could justify massacring protestors by association?