Does good grades mean your clever? Bad grades mean your dumb?

Some people don't care about success though, I've met some very intelligent people in some very menial jobs.

i have a friend who gets straight A's but i think is thick as a melon. she just literally learns the study guide. having said that she does ICT, psychology and drama. i'd like to see her cope with biology or maths, a subject where application is needed. it really irritates me how see does so well whilst being so jaded. she got confused by the word 'bottle neck' in the context "too many programs running act as a bottleneck". i mean christ, this is one of the top people in my sixth form. she doesn't watch the news or have any hobbies or interests apart from school and true blood (that silly series). i asked her what she thought about the change in the middle-east, she replied: "where's the middle-east?". i mean how would i even answer that? i find the education system so flawed that someone so clueless is able to be a top performer when at the same being the most narrow minded, unaware, naive student at my school. this proofs to no end that having a good memory and being able to recall information is the key to doing well in exams, and not genuine intelligence.

Intelligence is harder to define and I don't think good exam grades reflect a person's intelligence, more like the ability to recall...

Just look at Einstein.

I'm illiterate? That would mean I can't read or write. Both of which are required to write a response to your pathetic post. Also, babes? Theres only one of me, so if anything call me babe. Babes is the plural. Seems like if either of us is illiterate, it's you.

Not necessarily. A friend of mine dropped out of school because she only got Ds and Es, but her IQ is around the 160 mark

What does Einstein have to do with this thread?

Do you think grades are the ultimate indicator of a person's intelligence. Before attending University I did. I went to Uni on the expectation that it would be full of superior intellectuals who were constantly increasing their ever expanding knowledge of everything, not just their subject, and that I would be the dumbest man to ever attend. But when I got here I was shocked. I speak to people, and no offence to them, but they don't seem like the greatest young mind of our generation. And when you ask them about politics, or something that requires good general knowledge you draw a completely blank, but then when you ask them what grades they got at A-Level, they're shocking good. I know one guy who didn't know how to cook beans on toast but got 3 A's at A-level, in Law, English and Physics. How??

As far as I know Einstein performed quite badly at school in his youth because he had no interest in the syllabus. This happened to Hawking aswell. He spent much of his time thinking about other things outside of the course, and as such got a 2:1 (not that thats awful) but was a candidate for being bumped up to a 1:1. Within a 10 minutes or so it was clear to the academics that he was smarter than they were .