Labour Shame...Tory Scandal

tommorris

Yes, because the use of recreational drugs makes you automatically unfit for public office. Why exactly does it matter whether you used drugs or not? As long as you legalise them, you've got my vote.

That said, it would be fantastic if everybody who voted for strengthening drug laws would be urine tested immediately after they voted "Aye". What a turn-up for the books that would be!

What dross.

Next you'll be saying "well he only had 300 pictures of kiddie porn on his PC,its only bad when it 1000" or "he only snorted one line of coke."

An MP shouldn't snort,smoke,look at,or fiddle with anything or anyone.

How can anyone justify depravity?

Drugs of any kind are for the weak willed and my urine would test negative.
We are quickly becoming a cesspit of decadence. :mad:

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Howard

Well, you can't very well sit their in ivory towers condemning illegal drug use when you are a user/have used them yourself. That's called being a hypocrite.

Shouldn't be condeming illegal drug use then. I do hope that David Cameron could turn his mind to not locking people up. If he does believe that locking up drug users is a good idea, then how long exactly should his child be in prison for if they start using drugs?

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Ossie1701

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Jangliss

The party which positions itself perfectly for that crucial football hooligan vote isn't going to get mine...

And you missed out John Prescott's punch under "violence"...

"Today's BNP "dirty dozen" are:

1. Tony Lecomber, prominent in the BNP hierarchy, served three years in jail for a nail bomb plot. He got another three years in 1991 for stabbing a Jewish teacher and has 12 convictions in all.

2. Kevin Scott, BNP organiser in the North East, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.

3. Paul Harris, 41, BNP council candidate in Barnsley was convicted of using threatening behaviour towards a pensioner.

4. Jason Douglas, one of the BNP's leading candidates in the Greater London local elections, is a convicted football hooligan.

5. Warren Bennett, the BNP's chief steward, is also a convicted football hooligan.

6. Stephen Belshaw, who stood for the BNP in Amber Valley, East Midlands, was convicted in 1994 of attacking a Jewish solicitor.

7. Colin Smith, BNP South East London organiser. 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.

8. Darren Dobson, BNP council candidate in Oldham. Convicted of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001.

9. Frank Forte, BNP member in Waltham Forest, convicted of Actual Bodily Harm in 1989.

10. Paul Thompson, former BNP organiser for Durham and Darlington convicted of criminal damage after an attack on a book shop in Durham. Also convicted for violence after attacking football fans.

11. Neil Keilty, BNP member, whose convictions since 1987 include criminal damage, possession of an offensive weapon and threatening behaviour.

12. Gary Mitchell former Sunderland BNP secretary, convicted of racist attacks and possession of offensive weaponry." - "Socialist Unity"

lol, brilliant - With the BNP, what you see is what you get - a load of greasy haired hooligans who think that somehow, someway, they might get into Government, lol.

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Jangliss

The party which positions itself perfectly for that crucial football hooligan vote isn't going to get mine...

And you missed out John Prescott's punch under "violence"...

"Today's BNP "dirty dozen" are:

1. Tony Lecomber, prominent in the BNP hierarchy, served three years in jail for a nail bomb plot. He got another three years in 1991 for stabbing a Jewish teacher and has 12 convictions in all.

2. Kevin Scott, BNP organiser in the North East, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.

3. Paul Harris, 41, BNP council candidate in Barnsley was convicted of using threatening behaviour towards a pensioner.

4. Jason Douglas, one of the BNP's leading candidates in the Greater London local elections, is a convicted football hooligan.

5. Warren Bennett, the BNP's chief steward, is also a convicted football hooligan.

6. Stephen Belshaw, who stood for the BNP in Amber Valley, East Midlands, was convicted in 1994 of attacking a Jewish solicitor.

7. Colin Smith, BNP South East London organiser. 17 convictions for burglary, theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.

8. Darren Dobson, BNP council candidate in Oldham. Convicted of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001.

9. Frank Forte, BNP member in Waltham Forest, convicted of Actual Bodily Harm in 1989.

10. Paul Thompson, former BNP organiser for Durham and Darlington convicted of criminal damage after an attack on a book shop in Durham. Also convicted for violence after attacking football fans.

11. Neil Keilty, BNP member, whose convictions since 1987 include criminal damage, possession of an offensive weapon and threatening behaviour.

12. Gary Mitchell former Sunderland BNP secretary, convicted of racist attacks and possession of offensive weaponry." - "Socialist Unity"

Don't you just love searchlies i mean searchlight.

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jjuk

What dross.

Next you'll be saying "well he only had 300 pictures of kiddie porn on his PC,its only bad when it 1000" or "he only snorted one line of coke."

An MP shouldn't snort,smoke,look at,or fiddle with anything or anyone.

How can anyone justify depravity?

Drugs of any kind are for the weak willed and my urine would test negative.
We are quickly becoming a cesspit of decadence. :mad:

Yes, we are going down the eternal cesspit! I mean, how else could the BNP get elected except artificially creating a moral panic.

And I'm glad you think that smoking is equivalent to child pornography or child abuse. Perhaps we could have some News of the World organised lynch mobs for those cannabis smokers who are just ruining our country, destroying our precious family values and sending us to a cesspit of decadence! Wouldn't that just be fantastic?

Of course, you may wish to send an apology to these people, if you think that drug use is worse than the prohibition of drugs. You know, shooting down charity mission planes in Peru is just the price we pay to keep our streets clean!

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Ossie1701

lol, brilliant - With the BNP, what you see is what you get - a load of greasy haired hooligans who think that somehow, someway, they might get into Government, lol.

What you get with the fab three is nonces,paedophiles and rent boy 'doggers'.

But you'd legalise paedophilia wouldn't you by lowering the sexual age of consent.

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Howard

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tommorris

Shouldn't be condeming illegal drug use then. I do hope that David Cameron could turn his mind to not locking people up. If he does believe that locking up drug users is a good idea, then how long exactly should his child be in prison for if they start using drugs?

Same time as everybody else's child I should think. And how suitable for public office is somebody that will not condemn things that are illegal?

Reply 49

Howard

Same time as everybody else's child I should think. And how suitable for public office is somebody that will not condemn things that are illegal?

I totally agree. William Wilberforce should have supported the slave trade, since it was the law. Charles Bradlaugh should have just said the oath and got on with it. And those damn American revolutionaries should have just known their place!

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tommorris

Yes, we are going down the eternal cesspit! I mean, how else could the BNP get elected except artificially creating a moral panic.

And I'm glad you think that smoking is equivalent to child pornography or child abuse. Perhaps we could have some News of the World organised lynch mobs for those cannabis smokers who are just ruining our country, destroying our precious family values and sending us to a cesspit of decadence! Wouldn't that just be fantastic?

Of course, you may wish to send an apology to these people, if you think that drug use is worse than the prohibition of drugs. You know, shooting down charity mission planes in Peru is just the price we pay to keep our streets clean!

What so you support peruvian farmers being intimidated into growing coca?

Do you support the practise of 'drug mules'?

Do you support the mass murders of the colombian drug cartels?

Get a grip,drugs are for losers that don't have the balls to face reality.
But i bet you're going out this weekend to 'score' and binge drink.

Why is it that during the Talibans reign in Afghanistan,opium production fell by a third.
Now that they've been 'liberated?' opium production is higher than the pre taliban regime.

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tommorris

I totally agree. William Wilberforce should have supported the slave trade, since it was the law. Charles Bradlaugh should have just said the oath and got on with it. And those damn American revolutionaries should have just known their place!

WTF has this got to do with drugs addicted MP's.

The slave trade was very bad.

The American revolutionaries were sick of theCrowns rule.

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Howard

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tommorris

I totally agree. William Wilberforce should have supported the slave trade, since it was the law. Charles Bradlaugh should have just said the oath and got on with it. And those damn American revolutionaries should have just known their place!

A rather assinine comparison between smoking pot and the slave trade. Well done. :rolleyes:

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Carl

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jjuk

What dross.

Next you'll be saying "well he only had 300 pictures of kiddie porn on his PC,its only bad when it 1000" or "he only snorted one line of coke."

An MP shouldn't snort,smoke,look at,or fiddle with anything or anyone.

How can anyone justify depravity?

Drugs of any kind are for the weak willed and my urine would test negative.
We are quickly becoming a cesspit of decadence. :mad:

Do you drink? Where do we draw the line at drugs?

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Ossie1701

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jjuk

What you get with the fab three is nonces,paedophiles and rent boy 'doggers'.

But you'd legalise paedophilia wouldn't you by lowering the sexual age of consent.

And you would make Britain what? Some sort of facist country, totally distanced from Europe, sending all those who cannot prove that they have been British, white and Protestant for at least 100 generations, back to their 'home countries' ... :eek:

I thought a nonse was a paedophile? And lets be frank here, the BNP party conference takes place at a Millwall Match, its the see how many people we can beat up, whoever gets the most becomes Party leader.

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Ossie1701

And you would make Britain what? Some sort of facist country, totally distanced from Europe, sending all those who cannot prove that they have been British, white and Protestant for at least 100 generations, back to their 'home countries' ... :eek:

I thought a nonse was a paedophile? And lets be frank here, the BNP party conference takes place at a Millwall Match, its the see how many people we can beat up, whoever gets the most becomes Party leader.

Do you work for searchlies?

So you'd like this country to be a crime riddled cesspit of drugs,mindless violence and sexual depravity?

Why is it the left always support deprived behaviour? Is that what you call DIVERSITY TM.

As for the BNP party conference,the fab three always intimidate conference centres into banning our right to meet and exercise our democratic right.

They do this by funding terrorist organisations like the Anti-nazi league and united against facism.

They do this through the trade unions who should be protecting workers jobs and rights and not supporting DIVERSITY GROUPS TM.

The BNP isn't just for protestants,we have jews,sikhs,catholics,aethiests and pagans.I am an Odinist not a christian so that's another of your hollow arguments defeated.

P.S. sorry about the nonce,paedophile confusion.Then again i don't know much about those sort of things,maybe you could enlighten us here.

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Carl

Do you drink? Where do we draw the line at drugs?

Drinking a beer isn't the same as snorting coccaine.

But binge drinking shouldn't be tolerated.

Reply 55

Howard

A rather assinine comparison between smoking pot and the slave trade. Well done. :rolleyes:

Not so. It was an analogy. But, of course, in political discourse, historical use of analogy is automatically inflated to become moral comparison.

One doesn't have to condemn something because it's illegal but you think it is moral (or not immoral), nor do you have to support something because it's legal and you think it immoral. That is why, though illegal, I do not condemn drug use. I don't consider drug use immoral. I consider racism immoral, and condemn it, even though it is not illegal (nor should it be, since that would necessitate Orwellian controls over thought and speech - a measure which I abhor). The factual state of the law, one's desired state for the law and one's moral beliefs, are interconnected but not dependent on one another.

Should support for the current status quo be a necessary prerequisite for democratic election? How, then, would Parliament reform the law if it were unjust? How would parliamentarians realise that they may be wrong? If agreement with the status quo is a prerequisite for election, then no laws would change except by, erm, magic.

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jjuk

What so you support peruvian farmers being intimidated into growing coca?

Do you support the practise of 'drug mules'?

Do you support the mass murders of the colombian drug cartels?

Why is it that during the Talibans reign in Afghanistan,opium production fell by a third.
Now that they've been 'liberated?' opium production is higher than the pre taliban regime.

No. I oppose force and fraud. Narcotics should be produced in the same way as any other product or service.

jjuk

Get a grip,drugs are for losers that don't have the balls to face reality.
But i bet you're going out this weekend to 'score' and binge drink.

I'll have to disappoint you. I might drink some wine tonight, which will put my total alcohol consumption in the last year up to about 10 units. I have never used illegal drugs, though I would consider using marijuana, since it has not unpleasant effects.

Since the gloves are now off, I'll just remark that I'm very glad the BNP have put the whole "demonisation" game behind them. I'll just get back to snorting cocaine and providing a set of male zygotes for surrogate half-caste babies with the pretty Pakistani immigrant lady next door. Ta ta!

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Howard

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tommorris

Not so. It was an analogy. But, of course, in political discourse, historical use of analogy is automatically inflated to become moral comparison.

Well, analogies are only as good as the similarity and I'm afraid your analogy really sucked Tom.

Reply 57

Carl

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jjuk

Drinking a beer isn't the same as snorting coccaine.

But binge drinking shouldn't be tolerated.

Says who? Who's to dictate what society should and shouldn't allow. Just because alcohol can be taxed doesn't make it any less dangerous if abused, and any less anti-social if overdone. I also believe recreational drugs should be legalised for use at home. I don't see the difference between sitting in front of the TV with a Stella or a joint.

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Since the gloves are now off, I'll just remark that I'm very glad the BNP have put the whole "demonisation" game behind them. I'll just get back to snorting cocaine and providing a set of male zygotes for surrogate half-caste babies with the pretty Pakistani immigrant lady next door. Ta ta!

Good for you, enjoy yourself! :biggrin:

I'm off to spread RACE HATE TM and then i'll burn down ten mosques and slaughter an african village for no reason because i am white scum! (thats what we all do inbetween denying the holocaust and daubing synagogues with swastikas or was that the ANL that got caught doing that :rolleyes:

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