London Overground's new names revealed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68296483.amp

Do we think these new names are political more than anything else? Nothing against the people being honoured by the new names, but it seems to me they could have come up with better names - particularly the new "Liberty" line, which just seems like something they came up with after they ran out of creativity.

Reply 1

Kutie Karen

19

Not sure I can get used saying that I am using so and so line.It will take some gettign use to. I wonder how much they spent on coming up with these names etc.

Reply 2

Gazpacho.

11

Seeing people getting themselves in a tizzy over the names is comedy gold.

Reply 3

SHallowvale

14

Are names the new names political but not "Jubilee" and "Elizabeth"? The republicans among us might disagee... xD

I don't mind the new names, they are certainly better than the single "Overground" brand for a line that encompasses the entire tube map. I imagine the people who dislike the names will get use to them quite quickly.

Reply 4

StriderHort

21

Original post by Gazpacho.

Seeing people getting themselves in a tizzy over the names is comedy gold.

I know, it's slapping Tories and Londeners at the same time.

The names we give things tend to be a load of unoriginal pap anyway, they might as well polarise people.

Reply 5

Andrew97

Entertainment Forum Helper, Debate & Current Affairs Helper

20

The names are a good idea. Delays on London overground is very vague. A signal failure on the Chingford branch won’t impact the barking bit. So separating them seems sensible.

The names. Doesn’t matter in reality, people won’t care in 3 weeks.

Original post by Scotland Yard

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68296483.amp

Do we think these new names are political more than anything else? Nothing against the people being honoured by the new names, but it seems to me they could have come up with better names - particularly the new "Liberty" line, which just seems like something they came up with after they ran out of creativity.

What were the names before?

Reply 7

SHallowvale

14

Original post by Talkative Toad

What were the names before?

"Overground" for the entire network, I believe.

Original post by SHallowvale

"Overground" for the entire network, I believe.

I guess that it’s nice that the service is now 6 distinct lines but this feels like a waste of time and resources or maybe not based on the opinions here.

Reply 9

emm4nuella

Debate & Current Affairs Helper, Study Forum Helper

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Original post by Scotland Yard

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68296483.amp

Do we think these new names are political more than anything else? Nothing against the people being honoured by the new names, but it seems to me they could have come up with better names - particularly the new "Liberty" line, which just seems like something they came up with after they ran out of creativity.

I'm a Londoner myself. It's great that they finally bothered to distinguish the Overground branches, but honestly I don't think anyone cares

Reply 10

artful_lounger

Universities Forum Helper

21

Tourists will just refer to them by colour and Londoners and commuters won't care either way. Much ado about nothing.

Reply 11

AMac86

11

The entire overground was just the "overground" and the six lines were all the same colour so the map wasn't particularly easy to read. Splitting out the lines into different coloured branches made absolute sense from ease of use perspective and it'd been on TfLs radar for a few years now as Overground passengers have increased a lot & train frequencies are higher making it more of a "metro" service like the underground that needs an easy to use and read network map.

Reply 12

Scotland Yard

OP

Clearing and Applications Advisor, Universities Forum Helper

20

Original post by Talkative Toad

What were the names before?

They didn't have individual names, which made the network a tad confusing for tourists/new people

Reply 13

Scotland Yard

OP

Clearing and Applications Advisor, Universities Forum Helper

20

Original post by Talkative Toad

I guess that it’s nice that the service is now 6 distinct lines but this feels like a waste of time and resources or maybe not based on the opinions here.

I wouldn't say it's a waste of resources. It was about time they got proper names. In fact, one or two of the lines had already been unofficially named by the locals - one of them hillariously nicknamed the Goblin line.

Would I have preferred something hilarious like the Goblin line making the tube map? Absolutely :giggle:

But I have to agree it doesn't matter that much

Reply 14

erin11

Debate & Current Affairs Helper, Study Forum Helper

16

its nice that theyve been given official names and link with the underground a bit more, but its a bit of a shame as the insane amount of money used on this could have been directed towards problems like knife crime prevention and so on

Original post by Scotland Yard

I wouldn't say it's a waste of resources. It was about time they got proper names. In fact, one or two of the lines had already been unofficially named by the locals - one of them hillariously nicknamed the Goblin line.

Would I have preferred something hilarious like the Goblin line making the tube map? Absolutely :giggle:

But I have to agree it doesn't matter that much

Yeah but there’s other train services that need improving in the UK or heck some of the tubes could do with being refurbished that’s why I partially see it as a waste of time and resources despite it arguably being a necessary change.

Original post by Scotland Yard

They didn't have individual names, which made the network a tad confusing for tourists/new people

Ah yeah I got that.

Reply 16

StriderHort

21

Original post by Scotland Yard

I wouldn't say it's a waste of resources. It was about time they got proper names. In fact, one or two of the lines had already been unofficially named by the locals - one of them hillariously nicknamed the Goblin line.

Would I have preferred something hilarious like the Goblin line making the tube map? Absolutely :giggle:

But I have to agree it doesn't matter that much

Oh it needs done, but the multi million cost is still eye watering for what it actually is imo

Reply 17

SHallowvale

14

Original post by StriderHort

Oh it needs done, but the multi million cost is still eye watering for what it actually is imo

Rebranding something of that scale will always cost millions. New signs, new paint, all the paperwork to go with it, etc.

Reply 18

StriderHort

21

Original post by SHallowvale

Rebranding something of that scale will always cost millions. New signs, new paint, all the paperwork to go with it, etc.

I kind of get what you mean, but it's still damn hard to talk up signs/paint/paperwork to millions for these, I'd be curious to see what the specific costings were.

Reply 19

AMac86

11

Original post by erin11

its nice that theyve been given official names and link with the underground a bit more, but its a bit of a shame as the insane amount of money used on this could have been directed towards problems like knife crime prevention and so on

It's 0.01% of TfLs annual operating budget and was in the planning for many years because of the development of the overground & passenger number increases.

TfL is run completely and entirely separately from the Met - they don't share budgets or manage day to day operational expenditure together in this way.

To put it another way, if TfL had saved the cost by cancelling the project, that saving wouldn't have then been used as a donation to the Met (or any other London public service) - It would have been used to bring forward other TfL operations.

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