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Does mainstream porn really represent the desires of men?

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All the adverts on porn sites are usually extreme, to get people curious. The actual content of generic porn tube sites doesn't tend to be quite as violent/extreme. In fact, most porn is pretty dull and usually consists of a scantily clad girl dancing around for a bit and then having sex with a guy for ages, with not much else going on. Sure it doesn't represent real sex but it's not supposed to. Porn is predominantly aimed at men who are visual creatures by nature, the get turned on by an exaggerated portrayal of what sex actually looks like.

As a woman who has watched some pretty horrific porn in my time, I don't suddenly think that's what men want. I know it's just acting. Like people who watch action movies don't secretly want to buy a gun and go around shooting people.
Reply 61
Original post by awe
I know. :smile:

I was doing a PSA on the awful book, but it wasn't directed to you, hence not quoting you in.

I do agree with you, in both the sentiment you're expressing and that people seem to have misunderstood it. It's very good that you're aware of this side of porn. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot to do - this won't change in our generation, because porn wiggles its way into loopholes of morality, and by using the kink as an excuse there's no real reprieve.


In our generation, perhaps the damage has been done and recognised, and hopefully once women and men get into real relationships, they can recognise the difference between porn desires and real desires. I was planning to set up a change.org petition and try and get the attention of some of the main porn sites and get them to explain their choice of adverts and who exactly they're aimed at (looks like abusive men who are bordering on being paeophiles in my opinion, which I hope are not the majority of men). Those sorts of images should be seriously disturbing and would be to the older generation, so why are we so quick to dismiss them as a bit of kink?
Reply 62
Original post by Anonymous
Erm BDSM means dominance/submission role-playing..
I know how prevalent porn is among women. That was one of the reasons for my post. I wonder how women react when they see very violent images of sexual acts towards women on these sites and whether it colours their view of what men like to watch, since porn-producers seem to direct the porn at male consumers, which is a bit stupid in my opinion since you're right in saying that so many women watch porn.


Wat, everyone knows its all actors, who are paid to do stuff like that.
Who'd go on a website and look at an ad and conclude that most men like xyz
tb I stopped reading after you mentioned you log into your account, who the **** signs up to porn sites
It represents what men want to see, not necessarily what they want to do themselves. There's a big difference. A lot of people disagree that mainstream porn is what we want to see, and would argue that porn is simply brainwashing men into liking these things. Which seems like a ridiculous idea if you think about it. I mean, some kind of secret agreement between every porn company to make men obsessed with anal? Come on.

Porn producers want to get as many people as possible to watch and pay for their porn. And with the advent of the Internet, getting feedback on what viewers like is easier than ever. View counts, upvote/downvote functionality, tracking, analytics software, etc. So they continue to produce the porn that generates the most views and the most positive feedback. It's simple supply and demand.

So yeah, if you want to know what men like fapping to, go to any porn site and look at the "Most Popular" page. From what I've seen, most of it is pretty tame.
Reply 65
Original post by LavenderBlueSky88
All the adverts on porn sites are usually extreme, to get people curious. The actual content of generic porn tube sites doesn't tend to be quite as violent/extreme. In fact, most porn is pretty dull and usually consists of a scantily clad girl dancing around for a bit and then having sex with a guy for ages, with not much else going on. Sure it doesn't represent real sex but it's not supposed to. Porn is predominantly aimed at men who are visual creatures by nature, the get turned on by an exaggerated portrayal of what sex actually looks like.

As a woman who has watched some pretty horrific porn in my time, I don't suddenly think that's what men want. I know it's just acting. Like people who watch action movies don't secretly want to buy a gun and go around shooting people.


Who is really curious about making young teens cry in pain? And you could say yes it's consenting actors, but women do suffer terrible physical damage from these scenes and often turn to it when they are desperate. The same with male porn actors. But arguably they don't have to face such degradation in order to make money.
Reply 66
Original post by Anonymous
In our generation, perhaps the damage has been done and recognised, and hopefully once women and men get into real relationships, they can recognise the difference between porn desires and real desires. I was planning to set up a change.org petition and try and get the attention of some of the main porn sites and get them to explain their choice of adverts and who exactly they're aimed at (looks like abusive men who are bordering on being paeophiles in my opinion, which I hope are not the majority of men). Those sorts of images should be seriously disturbing and would be to the older generation, so why are we so quick to dismiss them as a bit of kink?


I'm afraid this won't work, I'll tell you that now. But all the best to ya.

It's not the majority of men but it is the majority of men from whom these sites make their big bucks. That's why you see it so much.

Also - the things you're describing and wondering 'what would women think!?' to - that's the **** I choose watch. I don't apply it to the population, though, not at all. It's for me. It's not real. Porn is separated, for the majority of us adults, from even real desires sometimes.
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Reply 67
Original post by Phil2008
It represents what men want to see, not necessarily what they want to do themselves. There's a big difference. A lot of people disagree that mainstream porn is what we want to see, and would argue that porn is simply brainwashing men into liking these things. Which seems like a ridiculous idea if you think about it. I mean, some kind of secret agreement between every porn company to make men obsessed with anal? Come on.

Porn producers want to get as many people as possible to watch and pay for their porn. And with the advent of the Internet, getting feedback on what viewers like is easier than ever. View counts, upvote/downvote functionality, tracking, analytics software, etc. So they continue to produce the porn that generates the most views and the most positive feedback. It's simple supply and demand.

So yeah, if you want to know what men like fapping to, go to any porn site and look at the "Most Popular" page. From what I've seen, most of it is pretty tame.


They are catering to the taste of those already viewing, but what about those who are watching porn for the first time? If porn is taking up the role of educating young people about sex, they should take some corporate responsibility; put some information about consent on there, explain steps to take if you want to try anal for the first time, explain the different between fantasy and reality.
Reply 68
Original post by Anonymous
They are catering to the taste of those already viewing, but what about those who are watching porn for the first time? If porn is taking up the role of educating young people about sex, they should take some corporate responsibility; put some information about consent on there, explain steps to take if you want to try anal for the first time, explain the different between fantasy and reality.


There's often a page which requires you to certify you are over the age of 18 prior to entering the site. Education is the responsibly of parents and schools, not the porn industry.

Besides, if you don't even know how to google "anal sex tips". You probably shouldn't be having anal sex.
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Original post by Jebedee
There's often a page which requires you to certify you are over the age of 18 prior to entering the site. Education is the responsibly of parents and schools, not the porn industry.

Besides, if you don't even know how to google "anal sex tips". You probably shouldn't be having anal sex.
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The reality is is that many teenagers are getting their expectations from porn so it would be ignorant for the porn industry to ignore this and put the onus on someone else.
Reply 70
Original post by marinaim
Haha, nope. As I said, a more sub/dom thing.
And no, mainly to do with the fact you have no clue what sub/dom is, how prevalent porn is among women and also just how this is a non-issue :colondollar: I would've thought of all people..


...The D and S in BDSM stands for dominance and submission. Taking pleasure from gagging someone is sadistic and enjoying being gagged is masochistic.
Reply 71
Original post by Jebedee
There's often a page which requires you to certify you are over the age of 18 prior to entering the site. Education is the responsibly of parents and schools, not the porn industry.

Besides, if you don't even know how to google "anal sex tips". You probably shouldn't be having anal sex.
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In the same way that packs of cigarettes and adverts for alcohol come with warnings and guidance, porn should come with the same sorts of messages which alert people to the damage it can do and would show that those running the porn industry might just have a conscience..
Reply 72
The content of porn itself, when viewed by someone who understands that it is fictional and that it is done for visual pleasure, not for the pleasure of the participants is not harmful. However as more extreme porn that doesn't resemble real sex becomes more popular, it becomes the standard style of video.

The harm of it is not in the adult or educated viewer, but in the 11,12 and 13 year old boys and girls watching it who are growing up thinking that porn is sex. Unless they are educated otherwise (which i highly doubt any are) then there will eventually be children and teenagers partaking in acts they're most likely going to be uncomfortable with, and boys will think they should want to call their partner a slut, and girls will think they should enjoy being dominated, because we're not telling them otherwise and porn is their main source of sex education.
Reply 73
You're taking your porn to the next level, you even have an account with the site.
Reply 74
Original post by Anonymous
In the same way that packs of cigarettes and adverts for alcohol come with warnings and guidance, porn should come with the same sorts of messages which alert people to the damage it can do and would show that those running the porn industry might just have a conscience..


Personally I think those messages are useless and don't deter anybody. It's the parents responsibility to monitor what their kids are doing. If they weren't expecting TV and internet to do their job for them it wouldn't be a problem.

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Reply 75
Original post by cerlohee
...The D and S in BDSM stands for dominance and submission. Taking pleasure from gagging someone is sadistic and enjoying being gagged is masochistic.


Is anyone even reading what I'm saying?
Okay; all BDSM is Sub/dom, but not all dom/sub is BDSM.
imo that isn't proper BDSM but whatever floats your boat, it makes no difference.
Reply 76
I 100% agree with the OP that some of it is disgraceful, even the more 'mild' violence. There is no need for violence even if it is only acting.
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Reply 77
Original post by puma21
You're taking your porn to the next level, you even have an account with the site.


The picture under your post is sort of proof. What you find acceptable in porn can be extrapolated to reality.
Reply 78
Original post by Jebedee
Personally I think those messages are useless and don't deter anybody. It's the parents responsibility to monitor what their kids are doing. If they weren't expecting TV and internet to do their job for them it wouldn't be a problem.

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So if someone's parents are a bit sub par, they should just be left to be damaged by porn? That's not really fair. Every child has the right to be educated about dangers in society, regardless of who their parents are, and I think that it's down to industries to recognise the dangers that come with their products and help to minimise the dangers.
Original post by Anonymous
Even if as men we say 'no I don't get turned on by women being gagged and having their hair pulled', any woman who logs onto a porn site (and a lot of them do!) are confronted with the message 'this is what men want'.
I challenge you to go on any large porn site and produce a screenshot of "women being gagged and having their hair pulled". The vast majority of the videos are just of two people having sex.

As a minority sexual interest, BDSM is not illegal and I am not sure you could consistently argue it should be - presumably you don't think homosexual sex should be illegal?

Your post is suspiciously slickly written also. Are you part of the increasingly large number of party and NGO hacks on TSR "professionally"?

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