The Student Room Group

What to do. Rejection and delays :(

I have posted about my PhD woes here and it only seems to get worse. I received a rejection email from Uni of Brighton and they stated that they couldn't arrange a supervisory team in my research area (hydropower- dams- development and climate change). They said they had a supervisor who specialised in climate change but she's gone on maternity leave.

For my home university, the lecturer did not give a feedback 3 weeks ago when I sent my proposal and on Monday last week, he claimed a lead supervisor has agreed who does specialise in this area but my proposal needs changes and how he's asked if I can revise without reapplying. Asked him to let me know the update and I'm open to revising. Didn't reply or gave any update.

Doctoral school said they are awaiting the departments decision.

Third school also seems like they don't have the supervisor team even though the professors have interests in my area but I haven't heard anything except the admissions office saying that they have contacted the admissions tutor again and hopefully I will receive a decision soon.

So I don't think doing a PhD is possible :frown:

I'm left with no choice but to apply for MSc and MRes now because I really want to do a PhD and also get funding so thinking of doing a second master, getting good grades and apply again after tweaking my proposal because it seems like nobody is interested in dams and development.

What should I do? I feel hopeless. I'm am overseas student and I really loved my PhD topic but it seems like my dreams have crashed :frown:

Scroll to see replies

Reply 1
Hi, I did read about your previous posts. I am quite surprised with the lecturer at your own home university. But for the other two universities, I wanted to ask if you did contact someone prior to applying. I applied to three universities as an International applicant, and the advice I have received from everyone is to contact the supervisor(s) beforehand. Unlike the US, where we do not need to contact potential advisors well beforehand, it seems like the UK requires us to do so. I hope you hear back positive things very soon! All the best and good luck with the application process.
Original post by Kpk1
Hi, I did read about your previous posts. I am quite surprised with the lecturer at your own home university. But for the other two universities, I wanted to ask if you did contact someone prior to applying. I applied to three universities as an International applicant, and the advice I have received from everyone is to contact the supervisor(s) beforehand. Unlike the US, where we do not need to contact potential advisors well beforehand, it seems like the UK requires us to do so. I hope you hear back positive things very soon! All the best and good luck with the application process.


I did send emails to some potential supervisors but never received any reply.
So decided to apply because academics can be quite busy.

I'm quite certain that the lecturer is doing this intentionally as he has displayed strange behaviour before and I wouldn't be surprised if he's intentionally doing this.

Thanks ☺️

I have some hope but not a lot because I don't think this lecturer will accept my application and I'm not sure if the other uni will accept because of the lack of specialism .

But maybe a second MSc or mres is my only way forward I guess
(edited 1 month ago)
Reply 5
Original post by BlueEyesHypnotiz
I did send emails to some potential supervisors but never received any reply.
So decided to apply because academics can be quite busy.
I'm quite certain that the lecturer is doing this intentionally as he has displayed strange behaviour before and I wouldn't be surprised if he's intentionally doing this.
Thanks ☺️
I have some hope but not a lot because I don't think this lecturer will accept my application and I'm not sure if the other uni will accept because of the lack of specialism .
But maybe a second MSc or mres is my only way forward I guess

When did you send those emails? if I may ask?
I'm sorry things are still not moving in the direction you'd like.

Was there a particular reason for you applying to the unis you applied to? It seems like an odd decision for you to apply to these unis when they lack people with the required specialisms needed to supervise your topic. Are there any other unis (UK or abroad/closer to home) that might be better suited to your field/topic?

I'm not a sciences student, so have no idea whether doing a second Masters would override your first one enough for you to be considered a competitive funding applicant...
It’s been a few years since I’ve dabbled in PhD admissions so this isn’t something I can offer much advice on I’m afraid.

The above guidance is correct in that you’d be expected to be in dialogue with a potential supervisor before applying. Without some encouragement to apply then a rejection is likely. As you note, academics are busy so the process is not a quick one either.
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I'm sorry things are still not moving in the direction you'd like.
Was there a particular reason for you applying to the unis you applied to? It seems like an odd decision for you to apply to these unis when they lack people with the required specialisms needed to supervise your topic. Are there any other unis (UK or abroad/closer to home) that might be better suited to your field/topic?
I'm not a sciences student, so have no idea whether doing a second Masters would override your first one enough for you to be considered a competitive funding applicant...

They have the departments but my topic is on hydropower so that's an issue that most people don't seem to have interest in it even though they are specialists in political ecology which is my theoretical framework..

My home uni has a lead supervisor who specialises in dams and she agreed but the second one has stalled my application- claiming I need to revise but isn't giving where and what to revise, causing delays

I have secured a role in EY for short 6 months in my home country so I'm thinking maybe professional experience and improved grades may help?
Original post by BlueEyesHypnotiz
They have the departments but my topic is on hydropower so that's an issue that most people don't seem to have interest in it even though they are specialists in political ecology which is my theoretical framework..

My home uni has a lead supervisor who specialises in dams and she agreed but the second one has stalled my application- claiming I need to revise but isn't giving where and what to revise, causing delays

I have secured a role in EY for short 6 months in my home country so I'm thinking maybe professional experience and improved grades may help?


I see!

I'm not sure what EY means in this context. Hopefully professional experience may help the next time you apply (I can't say whether it would or not - as I said, I'm not a STEM student)
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I see!
I'm not sure what EY means in this context. Hopefully professional experience may help the next time you apply (I can't say whether it would or not - as I said, I'm not a STEM student)

Ernest and Young company.
I'm not a STEM student either

BTW what do you think of the lecturer stalling my application and not giving feedback?
Original post by BlueEyesHypnotiz
Ernest and Young company.
I'm not a STEM student either
BTW what do you think of the lecturer stalling my application and not giving feedback?

Ah my bad, hydropower sounded very STEM to me :getmecoat:

Ah OK, Ernest and Young. Would your short stint there be working in areas related to hydropower? As I assumed you meant relevant experience when you mentioned professional experience...

It's hard to know what's going on there. Unis do want to make sure they're taking applicants who will finish the PhD and get a good outcome - so it's fair enough (given your academic profile) that they need the research proposal to be strong(er). It's hard to say why your lecturer has not updated you about what you need to do. Perhaps it's because - as it's a formal application - that information needs to come via the appropriate channels, i.e. the admissions office? Hard to say. He doesn't seem a good communicator though, which is a red flag for me about what he'd be like as a supervisor for you
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
Ah my bad, hydropower sounded very STEM to me :getmecoat:
Ah OK, Ernest and Young. Would your short stint there be working in areas related to hydropower? As I assumed you meant relevant experience when you mentioned professional experience...
It's hard to know what's going on there. Unis do want to make sure they're taking applicants who will finish the PhD and get a good outcome - so it's fair enough (given your academic profile) that they need the research proposal to be strong(er). It's hard to say why your lecturer has not updated you about what you need to do. Perhaps it's because - as it's a formal application - that information needs to come via the appropriate channels, i.e. the admissions office? Hard to say. He doesn't seem a good communicator though, which is a red flag for me about what he'd be like as a supervisor for you


No its not related to hydropower. Its consulting

I did ask doctoral school and they said they are waiting for a confirmation of decision from the academic department

Hes not a specialist in dams ot South East Asia yet he has self appointed himself as my Co supervisor. I never asked him to but since December when he heard that I will apply for a phd, he has self appointed himself.
(edited 1 month ago)
Update @The_Lonely_Goatherd

I received an email from my prospective supervisor (after I emailed him asking about my application) regarding the status of my application for a PhD program. The email mentions that the lead supervisor has agreed to supervise my research, and he has agreed to be the second supervisor. However, he also mentioned that revisions to my proposal may be needed before acceptance, although specific feedback on these revisions was not provided in the email. He suggested that I will receive further communication regarding the feedback on my proposal. I am unsure about the sincerity of this email and whether it indicates genuine interest in my application or if there may be ulterior motives behind the mentioned revisions. Any insights or advice on how to interpret this email would be greatly appreciated.

@Admit-One
(edited 1 month ago)
Again, I don’t currently work in PhD admissions so I am limited in what advice I can give.

Generally speaking, academics just wouldn’t reply or would be blunt about it if there was no interest. Whether they want to change your proposal significantly, I can’t say.
Original post by Admit-One
Again, I don’t currently work in PhD admissions so I am limited in what advice I can give.
Generally speaking, academics just wouldn’t reply or would be blunt about it if there was no interest. Whether they want to change your proposal significantly, I can’t say.

Do you think they want to change my proposal significantly?
Original post by BlueEyesHypnotiz
Do you think they want to change my proposal significantly?


I've literally just said that I can't say that :smile:
I can't see what ulterior motives there could be. I think you should take the email at face value
Original post by Admit-One
I've literally just said that I can't say that :smile:

OK thanks
He also said there's probably a place for me at the university if I want it
Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd
I can't see what ulterior motives there could be. I think you should take the email at face value

I did revert back to him asking for a time to schedule a meeting but he hasn't replied. I also emailed the lead supervisor but she's out of office so I guess more waiting and uncertainty.

He did say though that they will probably accept a second revised proposal and there's probably a place for me at the uni if I want it

Quick Reply

Latest

Trending

Trending