Is this racist?

According to Labour MP Mike Gapes, these UKIP campaign posters are racist. Do you agree?





Mr Gapes' tweet

Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27105374

A giant finger with the threat of 'they're going to take your job!' feels pretty fear-inducing to me.

Bloody hell, that MP is stupid. No it isn't.

It's not necessarily racist but it's xenophobic and plays on people's tribalistic nature. It's also a lie that 75% of our laws are passed in Brussels. You can tell there's something wrong with the UKIP scaremongering by the fact we're not swimming in Bulgarians and Romanians like they seemed to think we were going to be...

It's not necessarily racist but it's xenophobic and plays on people's tribalistic nature. It's also a lie that 75% of our laws are passed in Brussels. You can tell there's something wrong with the UKIP scaremongering by the fact we're not swimming in Bulgarians and Romanians like they seemed to think we were going to be...

To expect the British government to put the interests of the British people first is now xenophobic?

Nice strawman.

Do you actually have figures as to how many Bulgarians and Romanians have entered the country since January 01st or are you just making things up? After all, their numbers "officially" increased by 42% in 2013, it would be strange if that trend did not continue.

No-one has figures since January the 1st. The ONS are going to release them next month. We can have this debate then if you like.

Also, EU commissioner Viviane Reding states explicitly that 75% of UK laws are made in Brussels, wouldn't she be expected to know? http://www.ukip.org/the_truth_is_out_at_least_75_of_our_laws_are_made_by_eu_institutions_says_senior_european_commissioner_viviane_reding
The UKIP website - nice reliable, unbiased source . That quote is taken out of context. This is actually the percentage of EU laws (not our laws) that the European Parliament (elected representatives of each EU country) and the European Council (representatives of the governments of each EU country) have had an equal say on. The rest are either decided solely by the Council, or with Parliament giving the Council consent to them being passed. In other words, it’s the percentage of EU law that the politicians we elect to the European Parliament have as much say on as our national government.

Also, what about other sources? The uk parliamentary website says between 1997 and 2009 less than 7% of primary legislation came from Brussels. Let's say this 75% lie is true (which it isn't). What does that matter anyway? What matters is what the laws are. Most of the laws that the EU put forward are just regulations on corporations - enforcing worker's rights, environmental regulations and safety regulations of products.

Please do some proper research next time. It's the reason everyone in this country with half a brain cell has no respect for UKIP.

I have more than half a brain cell, and although not a UKIP supporter I find this smear like tactics by other people denouncing UKIP as stupid etc quite odd.

Well, they're a stupid party. They're against gay marriage, they want to abolish all sorts of worker's rights, they want to abolish maternity leave, they voted against tighter EU laws on the ivory trade, they voted against clampdowns on tax evasion, they have links with far-right groups and even the founder has left them because they're too right-wing. The reason they get any support is because they make up complete lies (like the 75% one that I disputed and you haven't come back on) about the EU and play on people's prejudices. Essentially, they're a sexist, homophobic, party for typical middle aged Daily express readers with, even if they're not racist as a party, large racist elements and links to racist groups around the world.

Without even trying to find out what MP it is I'm going to say Labour or Lib dem.

If you disagree with me you are some form of ist. (Racist, fascist, sexist etc etc)

But I think it's more a case of this

Quite a few people were/are against gay marriage. It depends on somebody's personal opinion and belief system.

All political parties have links with extremists at some level. You seem to think far right is bad, but I'm assuming your omission about far left groups means that you choose to ignore extremists either side of the political spectrum have done damage.

You've gone on a tirade against why UKIP is so bad but failed to address the main reason for their existence. Their anti EU stance.

There was a time when both left and right argued against that.

But I think it's more a case of this

You mean you didn't even bother to read the opening sentence of the OP?



I seem to remember that you want to live in an all white society, that seems kind of racist to me, not that i think this ad is racist, it clearly isn't it's just ****ing retarded rable-rousing of retards and racists, but it seems to have gone down well with you.



With a huge helping of this.

Where have I ever said I wanted to live in an all white society?

Why would I advocate sending my girlfriend back to where she came?

Here?



I dunno, where's she from?

You realise that episode of south park also mocked those that called the anti immigration people racist?

It's funny when people seem to forget that.