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Is this right? Can I or do I have to simplify it further?
Reply 1
Original post by Airess3
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Is this right? Can I or do I have to simplify it further?


I do not think the differentiation is correct
Original post by Airess3

*question*


You need to you the product rule:

if y = f(x)g(x)
y' = f'(x)g(x) + f(x)g'(x)

Where the ' means differentiated. So in this case let f(x) = cos^-1(x) and g(x) = sqrt(1-x^2) and you'll get the answer.

I think you're working was fine but then it seems like you've crossed out a + cos^-1(x), which would have made it correct (also as it is a function of t there should be no xs in your answer. You had differentiated sqrt(1-x^2) and cos^-1(x) correctly.
(edited 9 years ago)
Reply 3
Original post by philgreek
You need to you the product rule:

if y = f(x)g(x)
y' = f'(x)g(x) + f(x)g'(x)

Where the ' means differentiated. So in this case let f(x) = cos^-1(x) and g(x) = sqrt(1-x^2) and you'll get the answer.

I think you're working was fine but then it seems like you've crossed out a + cos^-1(x), which would have made it correct (also as it is a function of t there should be no xs in your answer. You had differentiated sqrt(1-x^2) and cos^-1(x) correctly.


One of us two misread the question ...
Original post by philgreek
You need to you the product rule:

if y = f(x)g(x)
y' = f'(x)g(x) + f(x)g'(x)

Where the ' means differentiated. So in this case let f(x) = cos^-1(x) and g(x) = sqrt(1-x^2) and you'll get the answer.

I think you're working was fine but then it seems like you've crossed out a + cos^-1(x), which would have made it correct (also as it is a function of t there should be no xs in your answer. You had differentiated sqrt(1-x^2) and cos^-1(x) correctly.


Does this look better? 789.jpg
Original post by TeeEm
One of us two misread the question ...


So I've made amendments. Is this right now? 789.jpg
Reply 6
Original post by Airess3
So I've made amendments. Is this right now? 789.jpg


if the question is to differentiate

ARCOS[ (1-t2) ]

then I feel it is completely wrong
Original post by TeeEm
if the question is to differentiate

ARCOS[ (1-t2) ]

then I feel it is completely wrong


Yeah, that's the question. Where did I go wrong? I thought the derivative of arcos is what I wrote. The proof of it was here: [video="youtube;8YuSQq86_ro"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YuSQq86_ro[/video] Or did I write another step wrong?
Reply 8
Original post by Airess3
Yeah, that's the question. Where did I go wrong? I thought the derivative of arcos is what I wrote. The proof of it was here: [video="youtube;8YuSQq86_ro"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YuSQq86_ro[/video] Or did I write another step wrong?


first of all you had x and t

secondly there is no product, just a messy chain rule which incidentally was correct.

the differentiation should give

-1/√ [1 - (1 - t2] x .... the rest as you had on your first attempt.

your final answer should be

1/√ (1 - t2)

(maybe to be 100% correct multiplied by signum(t)
Original post by Airess3
Yeah, that's the question. Where did I go wrong? I thought the derivative of arcos is what I wrote.What I'm not understanding is what 'x' is here. Because there's no x in cos1(1t2)\cos^{-1}(\sqrt{1-t^2})...
Original post by TeeEm
first of all you had x and t

secondly there is no product, just a messy chain rule which incidentally was correct.

the differentiation should give

-1/√ [1 - (1 - t2] x .... the rest as you had on your first attempt.

your final answer should be

1/√ (1 - t2)

(maybe to be 100% correct multiplied by signum(t)


How did you get 1/√ (1 - t2) as the final answer?
Reply 11
Original post by Airess3
How did you get 1/√ (1 - t2) as the final answer?


-1/√ [1 - (1 - t2] x 1/2.x(1 - t2)-1/2 x -2t


and simplify it
Wouldn't -2t/2 = -t ? I got t/sqrt(1-t^2) as the answer. 2014-12-03 14.50.24.jpg
Reply 13
Original post by Airess3
Wouldn't -2t/2 = -t ? I got t/sqrt(1-t^2) as the answer. 2014-12-03 14.50.24.jpg


-1/ [1 - (1 - t2] x 1/2.x(1 - t2)-1/2 x -2t

don't these 2 cancell


(I will not bother you with signum(t) here but your lecturer might want it)
(edited 9 years ago)

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