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Lectures. A waste of time?

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Original post by rayquaza17
We do for some modules, but they have gaps in and you can only fill them in if you were there looking at the whiteboard.


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damn it seems unis care more about attendance to lectures than actually helping the students achieve.
Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest
you guys dont get online notes? lol how poverty, I hate that unis are allowed to do that, also attendance sheets are scummy too.

Online notes will miss a lot of material from lectures for maths. A lot tends to be written on the board and explained throughout the lectures.
Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest
damn it seems unis care more about attendance to lectures than actually helping the students achieve.


I think the best way to achieve in maths is to attend the lectures.


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Original post by rayquaza17
I think the best way to achieve in maths is to attend the lectures.


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I disagree, I think tutorials and problem sheets are much more helpful, its easy to get lost in lectures and with maths if you do get lost you rarely are able to find yourself back on track especially due to the fast pace of lectures. Whilst in tutorials its usually 1 to 5 or 6 and you can ask questions and fully understand whats going on, and obviously doing and marking problem sheets being the best way because the best way to learn maths is to sit down and do it.


Original post by alexs2602
Online notes will miss a lot of material from lectures for maths. A lot tends to be written on the board and explained throughout the lectures.

Not necessarily, our online notes anyway are written by the people who take the lectures and are basically scripts of the lectures, the stuff that they write on boards or explain by talking is usually non examinable. Thats the way it should be imo if the unis want a high as pass rate as possible. Some of our lectures are even recorded which is excellent.
Original post by Kim-Jong-Illest
Not necessarily, our online notes anyway are written by the people who take the lectures and are basically scripts of the lectures, the stuff that they write on boards or explain by talking is usually non examinable. Thats the way it should be imo if the unis want a high as pass rate as possible. Some of our lectures are even recorded which is excellent.

That's pretty unusual for maths, trust me. I've only ever known one module where that was done.
Original post by Ronove
Yep, less than two months in and I've pretty much entirely stopped going to lectures. It's the second time I've been at uni though so I'm not worried about it, unlike all the newbies fresh out of Sixth Form who still haven't quite got their heads around the idea that you can choose what to attend according to how useful you find it/what other stuff you've got going on in your life.

Please expanxiate . What do you mean by you can choose what lectures to attend. Is it that you can observe the lectures then choose which ones to go to according to how useful you find them? Then shun the other lessons and have a bit more free time.
I went to most of my lectures largely because I felt I should and for some structure. However far too many involved someone reading off slides and they weren't helpful for coursework in the slightest- you had to cite all essay points from an academic source not a lecture so you had to read everything the lecture went over again anyway.
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Original post by Ekemini
Please expanxiate . What do you mean by you can choose what lectures to attend. Is it that you can observe the lectures then choose which ones to go to according to how useful you find them? Then shun the other lessons and have a bit more free time.

Well all the powerpoints for all the lectures are up on the e-learning environment already, so if I wanted I could look at them beforehand and work out which looked useful and/or which had least useful info on the actual slides (so that I could choose to go hear what was said in the presentation instead).

But what I actually mean is that I've been to the first three-ish lectures of each of the two different lecture series (Chemistry and Basic Human Biology) and found that I get virtually nothing out of the lectures that I don't get from just reading the textbooks, which I have to do anyway (we have some set books with relatively clear guidance on what we need to cover/be comfortable with, and there are tons of past papers up on the e-learning environment to check with). So I've basically stopped going to them.

By the same token, I've yet to turn up to a Chemistry group class. I just feel it's something I learn best on my own, with the book + online exercises. I go to both Basic Human Bio and Patient Contact class sessions though, because they're more interesting. I also go to Patient Contact lectures.
Original post by Ronove
Well all the powerpoints for all the lectures are up on the e-learning environment already, so if I wanted I could look at them beforehand and work out which looked useful and/or which had least useful info on the actual slides (so that I could choose to go hear what was said in the presentation instead).

But what I actually mean is that I've been to the first three-ish lectures of each of the two different lecture series (Chemistry and Basic Human Biology) and found that I get virtually nothing out of the lectures that I don't get from just reading the textbooks, which I have to do anyway (we have some set books with relatively clear guidance on what we need to cover/be comfortable with, and there are tons of past papers up on the e-learning environment to check with). So I've basically stopped going to them.

By the same token, I've yet to turn up to a Chemistry group class. I just feel it's something I learn best on my own, with the book + online exercises. I go to both Basic Human Bio and Patient Contact class sessions though, because they're more interesting. I also go to Patient Contact lectures.


Thank you! Though I have a feeling that the course I want to study(computer science) will require me to go to all the lectures.
My precious friends ! Its depend on your self,how many gain and what's gain.
I've had my last ever lecture, and now, it's time to revise! But first, I need an excuse to buy pizza
My university recorded all lectures for my subject and posted the slides before the lecture so you could just add on the notes to the slides. It was good but I found myself saying 'yeah i'll just listen to it tonight' and then never doing it. Half the time I didn't have a clue what was going on anyway. Needless to say I've left that university and course so we'll see what the new one does! (Kinda hoping there's no recordings, so I have to go in).
Lazy people trying to justify their non attendance ITT.
Should have researched the course before you went and made sure they actually teach you useful skills.
Original post by ChickenMadness
Should have researched the course before you went and made sure they actually teach you useful skills.


I did. They didn't say lectures would suck though or the course ultimately would suck with nothing interesting at the end of it
Original post by SophieSmall
Same, also a biomed student.


Original post by mine turtle
In final year and finding lectures aren't worth the time it takes to go there. Second year, I probably slept through half of them (partly, bad sleeping pattern and very boring lectures), but that was also when I decided this whole uni thing isn't really worth what I'm paying for it. I don't learn anything in lectures, even the ones I'm awake for (which is all of them this year). Evidently others at this uni think the same judging by the attrition rate in attendance for every module I'm in. Most of the time lecturers just read off the slides for most of the lecture and for some reason insist on having 60 slides to fit into one hour/50 minutes. I have my laptop in every lecture, but I'm normally on the internet (When the WiFi is working. Uni somehow managed to break that), sometimes playing chess on my Macbook. One time I was even video editing in lecture to meet a release deadline.

Point is, I've found I don't learn anything by being in the actual lecture. The Listen Again service teaches me more and some times I can learn what they were trying to say in 5 minutes by searching online or just watching a video on it. I don't even buy the recommended textbooks anymore we literally never use them.
Anyone else feel the same?

I feel the exact same, doing biological sciences. I don't learn a single thing in lectures!
I'm in my first year. How do you revise for exams?
Original post by jammy4041
Seriously???!? How can you not go to lectures?

When I was at Plymouth last year, I attended all the lectures I could, and all the seminars I could. Once, I was the only person in my classes seminar. (Yes, I had a one-on-one, 1 hour seminar, with the Professor, which could have gone on for a lot longer....)

Sure, I wasn't perfect. I'd missed a few, or I'd probably even fell asleep sometimes, but lectures have a place in the university degree program.

I'm a history student, so maybe it's different, but the more lectures the better. Someone worked it out, and well, assuming £9000 tuition fees, you could basically take £62 out of your wallet and burn it. Because, every time you don't go to a lecture, or a seminar, it cost that much.

Lectures are not the be all and end all, but, it's a good starting point.

This year, at Idaho State, we don't really have lectures, just classes (more like a seminar, but there's some elements of the lecture apparent). But, I've only missed one class this year so far (3/4 of the way through now) because I overslept. And I have had a bunch of 9.00am and 10.00am classes.

Oh no £62 burned of money you never had to waste 1 hour of your life listening to a professor read of the slides, time which could be spent you know actually learning something!
Seriously dude?
Original post by mine turtle
I've had my last ever lecture, and now, it's time to revise! But first, I need an excuse to buy pizza

when are your exams?
Original post by Lionheart96
when are your exams?


Mid May
Original post by Lionheart96
Oh no £62 burned of money you never had to waste 1 hour of your life listening to a professor read of the slides, time which could be spent you know actually learning something!
Seriously dude?



Yes. It's far from a waste of an hour in your life. My professors never simply read off the slides, and going through the presentations afterwards, I was just lacking so much, and under prepared for the seminar. They also open it up to class discussion in the lectures. Sure, there's probably some I'd rather I'd missed, and I didn't say it was perfect, but thinking how much I was spending on university, sharpens the mind. You might as well get the most out of university.

Seminars were more useful, but I attended all the lectures that I could.

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