Are people who complain about champagne socialists stupid?

Yeah life was so much better when millions couldn't afford healthcare. Clown. No one can actually be this stupid.

Yeah life peerages, calm down. Although, I do think that hereditary peerages should be brought back and peerages in general should be given out less (particularly to the royals). I think it is probably more to do with things beyond one's control which they support equality for, not whether you don't work hard enough to send your children to private school. The last two are utter garbage.

That doesn't make any sense. Find me a single Guardian article that says that choosing to live in Bradford or Luton makes you racist.

Just to be clear when you say the last 2 are utter garbage do you mean the people are garbage or the points I was making were garbage?

You said lots of wealthy lefties avoid tax. So are you saying more lefties avoid tax than other political persuasions?

Either way, you have no evidence for your proposition. It's just puerile speculation.



I come from a well-off family. Tbh I don't think you have a clue what people with money do.

If the system which Toynbee advocated existed in Britain, I have no doubt that she would send her children to state schools. But given education is not yet sufficiently funded to the degree she feels is necessary for a good education, how is it wrong to send her children to be educated privately? Who does that harm? How is that inconsistent?

The "tax wheeze", as you so delightfully called it, was not created by his parents. It was created by parliament

Left-wing socialists

Are all left-wingers socialists? Are social democrats socialists? Are social democrats "allowed" to send their children to be privately educated?

It depends how you use the phrase.

Just because someone is well off doesn't mean they can't hold left wing views, or be politically engaged for left wing causes. Saying that someone's sincerity is automatically invalid because of their background is wrong.

But then again I have met snobs who looked down on people with regional dialects, who labelled anyone who wasn't middle class as a 'chav' and who had some frighteningly backwards views. But they labelled themselves as left wing, and were politically engaged. I have no qualms calling these people 'champagne socialists'.


Overall there is a growing animosity towards the liberal intellectual elite. This stems from the left lurching towards the 'Third Way' and somewhat abandoning their traditional grass root members and electorate. I mean 19% of Labour candidates for the next General election were privately educated, up from 10% of current Labour MPs being privately educated. People are fed up with the lack of social mobility, elitism and classism in this country. We need a Parliament which more accurately reflects the make-up of this country.