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ABOLISH TUITION FEES? vote Jeremy Corbyn for Labour Party leader!

Tuition fees abolished.
A proper living wage. (£10 per hour)
Tax avoidance and evasion stopped.
Votes at 16.
House of Lords abolished.
A million high skill apprenticeships.


An extraordinary political tale is unfolding in Britain: a little-known politician, relegated to the margins of his party for much of his career, is now the favourite to become leader of the Labour party, the second-largest party in Britain and the government’s main opposition, Jeremy Corbyn. His supporters are already being subjected to personal attacks in an attempt to undermine his Labour leadership campaign, but the more people who hear him the bigger his support.

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Jeremy Corbyn gives impassioned argument for Democratic Socialism.
[video="youtube;pZvAvNJL-gE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvAvNJL-gE[/video]
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The guy is principled, very progressive and actually gives a damn about what he is saying. His got my vote. :smile:
Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? The Conservative Party likes to play tricks and in reality secretly a little scared. The small very British political revolution has swept Scotland and coming down south. They know they could not ride the popular movement without damaging their core voters and would gain no new supporters.
Original post by Funkinwolf
Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? The Conservative Party likes to play tricks and in reality secretly a little scared. The small very British political revolution has swept Scotland and coming down south. They know they could not ride the popular movement without damaging their core voters and would gain no new supporters.


What socialist revolution are the SNP launching?
Original post by MatureStudent36
What socialist revolution are the SNP launching?
Why are you trying to hijack this thread? :h:
I watched the LBC leadership debate on Youtube yesterday.

I'm sorry, even if they are more electorally viable, I just can't bring myself to install one of the three mannequins Corbyn is running against. They are so boring, so soul-less, so unprincipled.
"Socialism DOES work"? Not today it's doesn't. Try telling that to millions of Londoners today.
I agree with a lot of Corbyn policies but I think he would gain votes maybe 11.5 m but still lose as marginals go elsewhere while majority s are increased in labour strongholds
Original post by Funkinwolf
Why are you trying to hijack this thread? :h:


I'm not. Merely highlighting that conservative politicians are desperate for Corbyn to be voted in.

Remember when those who I study with old labour politics celebrated when the Greeks voted in a socialist government a few months back?
Original post by Reformed2010
An extraordinary political tale is unfolding in Britain: a little-known politician, relegated to the margins of his party for much of his career, is now the favourite to become leader of the Labour party, the second-largest party in Britain and the government’s main opposition, Jeremy Corbyn. His supporters are already being subjected to personal attacks in an attempt to undermine his Labour leadership campaign, but the more people who hear him the bigger his support.

One Week to go! Vote for Jeremy, Register here: http://www.labour.org.uk/w/labour-party-supporters

Jeremy Corbyn gives impassioned argument for Democratic Socialism.
[video="youtube;pZvAvNJL-gE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvAvNJL-gE[/video]

Tuition fees abolished. A proper living wage. Tax avoidance and evasion stopped. House of Lords abolished. A million high skill apprenticeships.


Lol no.

What's funny is you've got the EU flag ax your avatar/ the EU has shown via Greece what happens when silly lefty parties make a load of unfounded promises.

Additionally the fact that he thinks we need to take in much more migrants and wants to get out of NATO , as well as nationalising the Bank of England and printing out money shows he is not a credible leader of the opposition let alone prime minister. He's also a good pal of George Galloways and all but said michael foots manifesto was the best he's stood under.

As a person in sure he's nice enough. That shouldn't be the main qualification of our politicians.

Quite frankly as one of the saner left wingers I'd have thought you'd have more sense voting for this man.
Guys, putting in Corbyn as leader is the best way to ensure another Tory government. Rather have a Tory government than a centre-left Labour one? Fine by me. It's just that the people in this country who actually need a Labour Party to prevent their benefits being cut will be absolutely thrown under the bus purely for your 'principles'. Don't forget that a party can be of the centre-left and still be principled and can still be better than the Tories. If Tony Blair hadn't made the party electable, the minimum wage would have come in much later than it did, if at all. Jeremy Corbyn will ensure another loss for Labour in 2020 and mean that whatever principles his supporters like, he will be powerless to put them into place - what's that actually worth? He may be a strong and principled opposition, but he'll never change the country. A centrist Osborne government will trump a socialist Labour Party any day of the week - that's what Osborne's been trying to do by positioning himself in the centre; he wants the Labour party to put itself in an unelectable position and you're just doing the work for him.

Lord Kinnock puts it well:

In the leadership election, we are not choosing the chair of a discussion group who can preside over two years or more of fascinating debate while the Tories play hell with cuts in local services and public investment, extend injustice and flatlining incomes, sustain or worsen private debt, and deepen the balance-of-payments, productivity, housing and poverty deficits. We have to elect a leader capable of taking us to victory in the 2020 election and of being Labour prime minister.

@Reformed2010 : I'm disappointed that you've clearly given up on the Corbynmania is a joke thread and set up this one instead of carrying on our discussion.

P.S. Andy Burnham has the same policy as Corbyn to get rid of tuition fees and replace them with a progressive graduate tax. It all seems so fantastic: want to abolish tuition fees? Vote Corbyn! The trouble is, that's just not the truth. If Corbyn is elected leader, we'll have another Tory government and can be sure that student fees will not be abolished.
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Also his speech was awful:

Half it was ad hominin. The NHS was created by liberals and has been supported by conservative governments.

Dan Hanaan ruined the socialists:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XrivBvZ--SQ
Original post by ibzombie96
Guys, putting in Corbyn as leader is the best way to ensure another Tory government. Rather have a Tory government than a centre-left Labour one? Fine by me. It's just that the people in this country who actually need a Labour Party to prevent their benefits being cut will be absolutely thrown under the bus purely for your 'principles'. Don't forget that a party can be of the centre-left and still be principled and can still be better than the Tories. If Tony Blair hadn't made the party electable, the minimum wage would have come in much later than it did, if at all. Jeremy Corbyn will ensure another loss for Labour in 2020 and mean that whatever principles his supporters like, he will be powerless to put them into place - what's that actually worth? He may be a strong and principled opposition, but he'll never change the country. A centrist Osborne government will trump a socialist Labour Party any day of the week - that's what Osborne's been trying to do by positioning himself in the centre; he wants the Labour party to put itself in an unelectable position and you're just doing the work for him.

Lord Kinnock puts it well:

In the leadership election, we are not choosing the chair of a discussion group who can preside over two years or more of fascinating debate while the Tories play hell with cuts in local services and public investment, extend injustice and flatlining incomes, sustain or worsen private debt, and deepen the balance-of-payments, productivity, housing and poverty deficits. We have to elect a leader capable of taking us to victory in the 2020 election and of being Labour prime minister.

@Reformed2010 : I'm disappointed that you've clearly given up on the Corbynmania is a joke thread and set up this one instead of carrying on our discussion.

P.S. Andy Burnham has the same policy as Corbyn to get rid of tuition fees and replace them with a progressive graduate tax. It all seems so fantastic: want to abolish tuition fees? Vote Corbyn! The trouble is, that's just not the truth. If Corbyn is elected leader, we'll have another Tory government and can be sure that student fees will not be abolished.

Fees will go up again under tories. I thinl the labour party should do crack jokes on osbourne and he would lose resoundingly. Kinnock would beat osbourn in my opinion making major btter then osborne
Original post by DarrenBCFC
Fees will go up again under tories. I thinl the labour party should do crack jokes on osbourne and he would lose resoundingly. Kinnock would beat osbourn in my opinion making major btter then osborne


I know you're convinced Osborne is a crack cocaine addict but I don't think Labour making jokes of this kind is either particularly classy or vote-winning.

Yes, this is what I am saying: the Tories are the last people to abolish tuition fees. But what's the point in Corbyn becoming leader if he'll never be in the position to abolish tuition fees?

And Kinnock's not standing for leader.
Original post by ibzombie96
Guys, putting in Corbyn as leader is the best way to ensure another Tory government. Rather have a Tory government than a centre-left Labour one? Fine by me. It's just that the people in this country who actually need a Labour Party to prevent their benefits being cut will be absolutely thrown under the bus purely for your 'principles'. Don't forget that a party can be of the centre-left and still be principled and can still be better than the Tories. If Tony Blair hadn't made the party electable, the minimum wage would have come in much later than it did, if at all. Jeremy Corbyn will ensure another loss for Labour in 2020 and mean that whatever principles his supporters like, he will be powerless to put them into place - what's that actually worth? He may be a strong and principled opposition, but he'll never change the country. A centrist Osborne government will trump a socialist Labour Party any day of the week - that's what Osborne's been trying to do by positioning himself in the centre; he wants the Labour party to put itself in an unelectable position and you're just doing the work for him.

Lord Kinnock puts it well:

In the leadership election, we are not choosing the chair of a discussion group who can preside over two years or more of fascinating debate while the Tories play hell with cuts in local services and public investment, extend injustice and flatlining incomes, sustain or worsen private debt, and deepen the balance-of-payments, productivity, housing and poverty deficits. We have to elect a leader capable of taking us to victory in the 2020 election and of being Labour prime minister.

@Reformed2010 : I'm disappointed that you've clearly given up on the Corbynmania is a joke thread and set up this one instead of carrying on our discussion.

P.S. Andy Burnham has the same policy as Corbyn to get rid of tuition fees and replace them with a progressive graduate tax. It all seems so fantastic: want to abolish tuition fees? Vote Corbyn! The trouble is, that's just not the truth. If Corbyn is elected leader, we'll have another Tory government and can be sure that student fees will not be abolished.


You think Labour would win another election by going centre-left.

Remind me again what platform Ed ran on in the last election? Centre-left was it? :rolleyes:
Please vote for Jeremy.

The country needs labour unelectable again.
Original post by footstool1924
You think Labour would win another election by going centre-left.

Remind me again what platform Ed ran on in the last election? Centre-left was it? :rolleyes:


No, it wasn't. The reason he stood for Labour leadership was because he wanted a clean break from New Labour. That's also why he changed the name of his party. He thought the electorate had moved to the left. And although he utterly capitulated on austerity (and to be honest he was stuck between a rock and a hard place - he didn't want austerity on the one hand but needed some economic credibility on the other), there were clear signs of a move away from the centre-left: freezing energy prices and the seizing of privately owned land to build houses.

Either way, his actual political positioning is irrelevant; you should know that politics is about perception, and Miliband lost because he was perceived as being too far to the left. It stands to reason, after three victories for the guy seen as centre-left and a catastrophic failure for the guy seen as leftist, that Labour would do better with a centre-left leader.
All your points are a joke and by no practical means valid.

The most pathetic in particular is abolishing tax avoidance. He will never achieve it. Being part of the EU involves accepting tax avoidance. Hell Jean Claude Junker's native country Luxembourg Is one of the biggest culprits. By integrating into an ever more federalised Europe it means economic affairs can facilitate in third party nations. Tax avoidance is a result of the EU. It will never go as long as we stay in it or more so pursue its left wing agenda.

I could go on all day about your other points but I find this more important.
Either way Jeremy has my vote for leadership election, signed up just for him, will not be voting for him come 2020 though.

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