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2020 - 5 wasted years, what could have been?

Who would serve at the heart of a true labour government?

Taxation policies:

Income Tax:

5% - £0 - £5,500.

15% - £5,501 - £11,150.

25% - £11,151 - £25,200.

35% - £25,201 - £34,600.

45%- £34,601 - £50,100.

50% - £50,101 - £85,500.

55% - £85,501 plus.


National insurance policy:


5% - incomes up to £5,500

10.5% band for incomes between £5,501 and £50,100 (employer and employee rate).

15.5% band for incomes above £50,101 per year (employer and employee rate).

1.

Increase corporation tax from 19% to 35% (single rate).

2.

Reduce capital gains tax threshold from £12,300 to £500 and introduce a flat rate of 35%.

3.

Increase the main rate of VAT from 20% to 25%.

4.

Reduce the inheritance tax threshold from £325,000 to £85,000 and reduce rate from 40% to 25% (excluding first property up to a value £305,000).

5.

Introduce a 35% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £85,001 and £155,000.

6.

Introduce a 45% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £155,001 to £305,000.

7.

Introduce a 50% inheritance tax band for estates worth over £305,000.

8.

Introduce a 85% windfall tax on oil & gas companies.

9.

Abolish VED and introduce a fixed system of £1500.00 per year (double progressively for each additional vehicle owned - excluding electric and hydrogen)

10.

Replace council tax with a property tax (1.5% for properties below £305,000, 2.5% between £305,000 and £1 million and 5.5% above £1.25 million).

11.

Introduce a £25 per day charge entry fee for ICE vehicles (excluding hydrogen) entering any of the 70 cities within the UK (excluding NI).

12.

Introduce a fixed fuel duty levy of £1.85 per litre.

13.

Introduce an on street parking levy of £5.50p per day in towns, £5.50 in villages and £10.50 in cities.

14.

Abolish APD and introduce a fixed (exit and entry) charge of £500 for short haul flights, £1500 for long haul flights and £2500 for domestic (per passenger).

15.

Introduce a private health insurance tax of 50% of the total policy value per year (pre VAT).

16.

Introduce a £0.50 per mile (airline travel charge for all flights purchased within the UK - total milage for arrival+departure).

17.

Introduce a private school tax of 50% of the total value of school fees per year (pre VAT).

18.

Introduce a mandatory airport entry fee tax of £150.

19.

Introduce a multistory car park levy of £5.50 (or £15.50 in cities)per day.

20.

Introduce a £1.55 per mile ‘clean air’ charge for driving between the hours of 9:00 pm and 6:00 am.

21.

Introduce a minimum fuel purchase value of £15.00 (this is the amount which will be charged regardless of if the purchase is below £15.

22.

Introduce a charge of £5.50 per 1kg of any waste disposed of (not including recycling - Introduce payment gateways on public bins in order to prevent non-payment).

23.

Increase the sugar tax to £5 per 1 gram of sugar.

24.

Introduce a ‘fat tax’ of £10.50 per 1 gram of fat.

25.

Introduce an airport parking levy of £25.50 per day (minimum).

26.

Introduce a port parking levy of £15.50 per day (minimum).

27.

Introduce a yearly savings clawback tax of 5.5% of total savings above £55,500.00 (capped at a maximum of £1 million per year in tax)

28.

Introduce a disposal vehicle component levy by introducing a 35% tax (pre-vat) for any purpose of vehicle related fluids or parts.

29.

Increase and fix the minimum MOT charge from £54 to £155, increase the regularity of MOTs from once a year to twice.

30.

Mandate car servicing every 8,000 miles per year and introduce a £155 levy on car servicing.

31.

Introduce minimum alcohol pricing (per 100ml) of: £5.55p (below 3.85% ABV), £15.50 between 3.85% and 15.5% and £35.50 over 15.55%.

32.

Introduce a ‘taxi’ levy of £2.55 per mile between 8:00 pm and 6:30 am between Friday and Monday.

33.

Introduce mandatory insurance for all pets and introduce a 35% levy on the total value of the policy (pre-vat).

34.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all diesel cars registered prior to 2015 of £2500 per year.

35.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all petrol cars registered prior to 2005 of £1500 per year.

36.

Introduce a £25.00 entry toll (chargeable once per day per motorway entrance) for all 50 motorways within the UK (excluding NI).

37.

Introduce a 55% takeaway tax (pre VAT) on all fast food vendors within the UK (excluding NI).

38.

Introduce a 35% supermarket profit windfall tax.

39.

Abolish the don-dom tax status and introduce a flat tax rate of 50% for all earnings over £500.

40.

Introduce minimum pricing of tobacco products of £25 per 25 grams of product.

41.

Introduce a 15.5% bankers bonus tax.

42.

From 2028, all petrol ICE vehicles will be levied at £550 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 50 mpg.

43.

From 2028, all diesel ICE vehicles will be levied £850 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 60 mpg.

44.

Fix and set the license renewal charge at £55 pounds and introduce yearly renewals.

45.

Seek to reduce traffic across all cities by at least 50% over 5 years introducing an additional city clean air millage levy of £1.55 per mile driven (excluding Electric and hydrogen vehicles) within any city in the UK (excluding NI)

Spending policies:

1.

Decrease the state pension age from 68 to 55.

2.

Increase the state pension from £165 per week to £385 per week.

3.

Abolish assessments for PIP, UC and AA

4.

Abolish AA tiered awards and introduce a single rate of £1350 per month.

5.

Abolish under 25 U/C ‘out of work’ awards and introduce a single tier component of £235 per week.

6.

Abolish the under 35 years of age restriction for Housing allowance.

7.

Introduce an immediate rent controls for all private sector tenants - fixing the price at £150.00 per month (with government subsidising the remaining balance).

8.

Introduce a homelessness transitionary fund, permitting those who identify as homeless to claim a payment of £10,000.00 (once per year)

9.

Reduce the welfare entitlement age from 18 to 16 (regardless of circumstance).

10.

Abolish U/C child element cap, introduce a single rate for all children and increase awards from £265 to £585 per month

11.

Increase child benefit from £19.50 to £55.25 per week.

12.

Introduce a single tier ‘disability’ element for U/C (abolishing PIP and) and setting element awards at a flat rate of £1350 per month.

13.

Introduce a social tariff for electricity, gas, broadband and water rates, fixing the maximum payment at £15 per month for welfare claimants, £25 per month for incomes under £62,000 per year and £35 for those earning over £62,001 per year.

14.

Abolish NHS car parking and prescription charges.

15.

Introduce a legal right to see a GP or Nurse within 3 hours.

16.

Train an additional 35,000 nurses, 5500 doctors and 15,000 social care workers over 5 years.

17.

Introduce a state funded social care service for pensioners over the age of 55.

18.

Introduce 40 hours of free child care for children aged 0 to 16

19.

Introduce a e-cycle/e-scooter scheme, allowing for the purchase of these forms of transport by claiming tax rebates (up to £2,500 maximum - capped at once per 3 years).

20.

Provide NHS prescriptions for E-cigarettes (below 2.5% nicotine).

21.

Introduce a public transport pass, permitting access to use all trains, buses and trams within the UK (excluding NI), set payment at £50 per year.

22.

Abolish student tuition loans and increase university funding from £9,000 per year per pupil to £15,500.

23.

Abolish interest on student tuition and maintenance loans for existing students.

24.

Introduce a student maintenance grant worth £15,500 per year per student.

25.

Invest £80 billion per year (over 5 years - £400 billion total) in green technology such as solar panels, heat pumps and wind turbines.

26.

Provide housing asset secured loans (i.e property value £185,000 borrowing £25,000 = 13.5% of property value and/or by allowing mortgage customers to add the debt to their existing mortgage interest free) of up to £25,000 to ensure homes are able to conform to an EPC rating of A.

27.

Invest £10 billion per year (£50 billion over 5 years) in building e-cycle/e-scooter highways in all cities (and a large number of towns) within the UK (excluding NI).

28.

Employ an additional 35,000 teachers over 5 years and aim to reduce class sizes to a maximum of 10 for infant, junior, secondary, sixth form and universities.

29.

Provide £15.5 billion per year to ensure all students (currently at 2.8 million) receive a £1500 grant to purchase a laptop or tablet to help in their education.

30.

Introduce free school meals for infant school, junior school, secondary schools(inc sixth form) and universities within the UK (excluding NI).

31.

Abolish second class Royal Mail stamps and fix the price for 1st class stamps at £0 per stamp.

32.

Introduce the right to statutory sick pay from day one and increase the rate to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

33.

Introduce the right to 15 months (after 3 months of employment) for maternity/paternity pay equivalent to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

34.

Abolish legal aid and introduce a fully subsided legal service for criminal and family law.

35.

Build 850,000 Social housing units per year (EPC rating A).

36.

Build 50,000 private housing units per year (EPC rating A).

37.

Reduce UK territorial greenhouse gas emissions from 400 MtCo2 per year to less than 50 MtCo2 in 8 years.

38.

Ban the sale of new ICE (excluding hydrogen) by 2028.

39.

Invest £20 billion per year (over 5 years - £100 billion) to an the use of natural gas boilers by 2030 - ensuing everyone in the UK has either heat pumps or the gas grid is retrofitted to supply hydrogen only.

40.

Mandate a minimum employer pension contribution of 10.5%.

41.

Decrease the base rate of interest from 5.25% to 0%, removing Bank of England independence.

(edited 2 months ago)
Original post by EmilyJade24
Who would serve at the heart of a true labour government?

Taxation policies:

Income Tax:

5% - £0 - £5,500.

15% - £5,501 - £11,150.

25% - £11,151 - £25,200.

35% - £25,201 - £34,600.

45%- £34,601 - £50,100.

50% - £50,101 - £85,500.

55% - £85,501 plus.


National insurance policy:


5% - incomes up to £5,500

10.5% band for incomes between £5,501 and £50,100 (employer and employee rate).

15.5% band for incomes above £50,101 per year (employer and employee rate).

1.

Increase corporation tax from 19% to 35% (single rate).

2.

Reduce capital gains tax threshold from £12,300 to £500 and introduce a flat rate of 35%.

3.

Increase the main rate of VAT from 20% to 25%.

4.

Reduce the inheritance tax threshold from £325,000 to £85,000 and reduce rate from 40% to 25% (excluding first property up to a value £305,000).

5.

Introduce a 35% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £85,001 and £155,000.

6.

Introduce a 45% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £155,001 to £305,000.

7.

Introduce a 50% inheritance tax band for estates worth over £305,000.

8.

Introduce a 85% windfall tax on oil & gas companies.

9.

Abolish VED and introduce a fixed system of £1500.00 per year (double progressively for each additional vehicle owned - excluding electric and hydrogen)

10.

Replace council tax with a property tax (1.5% for properties below £305,000, 2.5% between £305,000 and £1 million and 5.5% above £1.25 million).

11.

Introduce a £25 per day charge entry fee for ICE vehicles (excluding hydrogen) entering any of the 70 cities within the UK (excluding NI).

12.

Introduce a fixed fuel duty levy of £1.85 per litre.

13.

Introduce an on street parking levy of £5.50p per day in towns, £5.50 in villages and £10.50 in cities.

14.

Abolish APD and introduce a fixed (exit and entry) charge of £500 for short haul flights, £1500 for long haul flights and £2500 for domestic (per passenger).

15.

Introduce a private health insurance tax of 50% of the total policy value per year (pre VAT).

16.

Introduce a £0.50 per mile (airline travel charge for all flights purchased within the UK - total milage for arrival+departure).

17.

Introduce a private school tax of 50% of the total value of school fees per year (pre VAT).

18.

Introduce a mandatory airport entry fee tax of £150.

19.

Introduce a multistory car park levy of £5.50 (or £15.50 in cities)per day.

20.

Introduce a £1.55 per mile ‘clean air’ charge for driving between the hours of 9:00 pm and 6:00 am.

21.

Introduce a minimum fuel purchase value of £15.00 (this is the amount which will be charged regardless of if the purchase is below £15.

22.

Introduce a charge of £5.50 per 1kg of any waste disposed of (not including recycling - Introduce payment gateways on public bins in order to prevent non-payment).

23.

Increase the sugar tax to £5 per 1 gram of sugar.

24.

Introduce a ‘fat tax’ of £10.50 per 1 gram of fat.

25.

Introduce an airport parking levy of £25.50 per day (minimum).

26.

Introduce a port parking levy of £15.50 per day (minimum).

27.

Introduce a yearly savings clawback tax of 5.5% of total savings above £55,500.00 (capped at a maximum of £1 million per year in tax)

28.

Introduce a disposal vehicle component levy by introducing a 35% tax (pre-vat) for any purpose of vehicle related fluids or parts.

29.

Increase and fix the minimum MOT charge from £54 to £155, increase the regularity of MOTs from once a year to twice.

30.

Mandate car servicing every 8,000 miles per year and introduce a £155 levy on car servicing.

31.

Introduce minimum alcohol pricing (per 100ml) of: £5.55p (below 3.85% ABV), £15.50 between 3.85% and 15.5% and £35.50 over 15.55%.

32.

Introduce a ‘taxi’ levy of £2.55 per mile between 8:00 pm and 6:30 am between Friday and Monday.

33.

Introduce mandatory insurance for all pets and introduce a 35% levy on the total value of the policy (pre-vat).

34.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all diesel cars registered prior to 2015 of £2500 per year.

35.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all petrol cars registered prior to 2005 of £1500 per year.

36.

Introduce a £25.00 entry toll (chargeable once per day per motorway entrance) for all 50 motorways within the UK (excluding NI).

37.

Introduce a 55% takeaway tax (pre VAT) on all fast food vendors within the UK (excluding NI).

38.

Introduce a 35% supermarket profit windfall tax.

39.

Abolish the don-dom tax status and introduce a flat tax rate of 50% for all earnings over £500.

40.

Introduce minimum pricing of tobacco products of £25 per 25 grams of product.

41.

Introduce a 15.5% bankers bonus tax.

42.

From 2028, all petrol ICE vehicles will be levied at £550 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 50 mpg.

43.

From 2028, all diesel ICE vehicles will be levied £850 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 60 mpg.

44.

Fix and set the license renewal charge at £55 pounds and introduce yearly renewals.

45.

Seek to reduce traffic across all cities by at least 50% over 5 years introducing an additional city clean air millage levy of £1.55 per mile driven (excluding Electric and hydrogen vehicles) within any city in the UK (excluding NI)

Spending policies:

1.

Decrease the state pension age from 68 to 55.

2.

Increase the state pension from £165 per week to £385 per week.

3.

Abolish assessments for PIP, UC and AA

4.

Abolish AA tiered awards and introduce a single rate of £1350 per month.

5.

Abolish under 25 U/C ‘out of work’ awards and introduce a single tier component of £235 per week.

6.

Abolish the under 35 years of age restriction for Housing allowance.

7.

Introduce an immediate rent controls for all private sector tenants - fixing the price at £150.00 per month (with government subsidising the remaining balance).

8.

Introduce a homelessness transitionary fund, permitting those who identify as homeless to claim a payment of £10,000.00 (once per year)

9.

Reduce the welfare entitlement age from 18 to 16 (regardless of circumstance).

10.

Abolish U/C child element cap, introduce a single rate for all children and increase awards from £265 to £585 per month

11.

Increase child benefit from £19.50 to £55.25 per week.

12.

Introduce a single tier ‘disability’ element for U/C (abolishing PIP and) and setting element awards at a flat rate of £1350 per month.

13.

Introduce a social tariff for electricity, gas, broadband and water rates, fixing the maximum payment at £15 per month for welfare claimants, £25 per month for incomes under £62,000 per year and £35 for those earning over £62,001 per year.

14.

Abolish NHS car parking and prescription charges.

15.

Introduce a legal right to see a GP or Nurse within 3 hours.

16.

Train an additional 35,000 nurses, 5500 doctors and 15,000 social care workers over 5 years.

17.

Introduce a state funded social care service for pensioners over the age of 55.

18.

Introduce 40 hours of free child care for children aged 0 to 16

19.

Introduce a e-cycle/e-scooter scheme, allowing for the purchase of these forms of transport by claiming tax rebates (up to £2,500 maximum - capped at once per 3 years).

20.

Provide NHS prescriptions for E-cigarettes (below 2.5% nicotine).

21.

Introduce a public transport pass, permitting access to use all trains, buses and trams within the UK (excluding NI), set payment at £50 per year.

22.

Abolish student tuition loans and increase university funding from £9,000 per year per pupil to £15,500.

23.

Abolish interest on student tuition and maintenance loans for existing students.

24.

Introduce a student maintenance grant worth £15,500 per year per student.

25.

Invest £80 billion per year (over 5 years - £400 billion total) in green technology such as solar panels, heat pumps and wind turbines.

26.

Provide housing asset secured loans (i.e property value £185,000 borrowing £25,000 = 13.5% of property value and/or by allowing mortgage customers to add the debt to their existing mortgage interest free) of up to £25,000 to ensure homes are able to conform to an EPC rating of A.

27.

Invest £10 billion per year (£50 billion over 5 years) in building e-cycle/e-scooter highways in all cities (and a large number of towns) within the UK (excluding NI).

28.

Employ an additional 35,000 teachers over 5 years and aim to reduce class sizes to a maximum of 10 for infant, junior, secondary, sixth form and universities.

29.

Provide £15.5 billion per year to ensure all students (currently at 2.8 million) receive a £1500 grant to purchase a laptop or tablet to help in their education.

30.

Introduce free school meals for infant school, junior school, secondary schools(inc sixth form) and universities within the UK (excluding NI).

31.

Abolish second class Royal Mail stamps and fix the price for 1st class stamps at £0 per stamp.

32.

Introduce the right to statutory sick pay from day one and increase the rate to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

33.

Introduce the right to 15 months (after 3 months of employment) for maternity/paternity pay equivalent to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

34.

Abolish legal aid and introduce a fully subsided legal service for criminal and family law.

35.

Build 850,000 Social housing units per year (EPC rating A).

36.

Build 50,000 private housing units per year (EPC rating A).

37.

Reduce UK territorial greenhouse gas emissions from 400 MtCo2 per year to less than 50 MtCo2 in 8 years.

38.

Ban the sale of new ICE (excluding hydrogen) by 2028.

39.

Invest £20 billion per year (over 5 years - £100 billion) to an the use of natural gas boilers by 2030 - ensuing everyone in the UK has either heat pumps or the gas grid is retrofitted to supply hydrogen only.

40.

Mandate a minimum employer pension contribution of 10.5%.

41.

Decrease the base rate of interest from 5.25% to 0%, removing Bank of England independence.



Crime polices:



1. Introduce a tax-payer-funded prisoner ‘community integration’ scheme over 5 years seek to release 17,800 prisoners per year over a 5-year period (89,000 in total) in order to reduce state funding on the prison service from £5.5 billion to £0.00. In order to give those released the best chance of reintegration, introduce a £35,000.00 per year ‘basic income’, costing £3.15 billion a year by year 5.


2. Introduce mandatory restorative justice schemes for all involved within the criminal justice system introduce a forgiveness-based system based on healing and understanding rather than revenge, punishment, and envy of the ‘what could have been’ mindsets.


3. Assign a 24/7 community ‘support buddy’ for all prisoners released under the ‘community integration scheme for a period of time parrel to the sentence they would have served if they were imprisoned.


4. Reform the court’s system across the UK and introduce a ‘peer review’ panel such a panel would consist of 50% true ‘peers’, meaning family, friends, and colleagues; the remaining 50% would consist of mental health experts who would personally oversee the case of the accused in order to determine the best outcome for all involved in the pursuit of ‘integration’.


5. Reduce funding of the UK ‘policing’ system by 100%, or £17.2 billion (some of the costs to pay for the ‘support buddy’ scheme), and instead transition to a ‘community peer’ scheme whereby those who wish to report wrongdoing will attend 4 fully paid for monthly individual appointments (44 in total over a year) to discuss what they allege (ie. How do they feel about what happened and how to address and help aide in the pursuit of healing. The accuser will be subsided £100.00 for each appointment they attend, or £4,800.00 in total.


6. Introduce a ‘community peer’ scheme for those accused of wrongdoing. Introduce a system of mandatory daily appointments (minimum of 1 hour) for those who are accused of crimes for a period of time which would be parrel to the sentence they were given. Introduce a subsidy of £50.00 per appointment in order to incentive attendance and promote rehabilitation.


7. Introduce an ‘exposure therapy’ type system whereby the victim of a crime, or their family and friends, will be permitted to attend (if they wish) 6 in-person appointments (subsided payment of £250.00 per person per appointment made to the individuals) in order to discuss with the person(s) accused/convicted of wrongdoing what happened and seek to form a pathway to forgiveness for the sake of the victims of crime.


8. Place more of an emphasis on community resolution by introducing community discussion meetings a panel made up of 6 specialist members of a local community who will invite both those who are victims and the those accused/convicted of a crimes such as harassment, stalking, coercive and controlling behaviour and domestic abuse related incidents to discuss how best to aide in the resolution of disputes in future.


9. Introduce a ‘reflection’ zone whereby those who wish to discuss offenses in detail for closure and personal assessment will be able to do so without fear of prosecution.


10. After 12 months, those convicted of wrongdoing will be able to apply for a ‘fresh start’ review whereby an offenders record is wiped in order to prevent the feeling of being held back and aide in the pursuit of community reintegration this policy would only be permissible once the convicted has attended a full course of ‘restorative justice’ and been reviewed by a panel of mental health experts.


11. Introduce a society ‘retribution’ fund whereby those who are victims (adult age) of crimes will be asked to contribute a minimum of £50.00 towards a fund that aids in the rehabilitation of those convicted of wrongdoing this ‘contribution’ will also be offset by 6 months off work for the victim of a crime up a maximum of £2,500.00 per month.


12. Introduce community ‘empowerment and understanding’ schemes whereby those who are convicted of crimes, those who are victims and the general public will be able to select a total of 65,000 (100 per consistency 650 in total) people in order aide in the discussion surrounding rehabilitation, community reintegration and healing the wounds caused by imprisonment those who work under the scheme will each be paid £65,000.00 a year (£4.5 billion in total) and in order to prevent bias against vulnerable grounds, 50% will come from those convicted of crimes, 25% the general public and 25% victims of crimes.


13. Seek to enhance community representation by promoting multiculturalism in order to diversify and promote healing within the country on the whole seek to boost rep. within the UK by boosting the size of underrepresented communities by 10,000,000 in total; work with all countries in order to issue ‘societal reparations residency passes’ over a 5 year period, 2 million passes per year over 5 years issue a 1 time community integration payment to reach who comes to the UK of £25,000.00 for a total of £50 billion per year, or £250 billion worth of human capital investment over 5.


14. Seek to expand the chance of re-offending by offering £5,000.00 payments to those who end up involved in the justice system providing they partake in 12 months’ worth of restorative justice.


15. Reform the ‘arrests’ process in order to move over to a voluntary system of community judgement whereby those accused of crimes will asked to attend a panel of their peers in order to discuss the impacts of their crimes on the local community in order to seek a resolution in order to prevent further offending if the accuse attends the panel, they will be offended a £500.00 fee and up to £25,000 worth of funding per year will be provided for the relocation and subsiding wages of the accused in order to encourage employment.


16. Introduce ‘friendship’ schemes for those convicted of wrongdoing in order to promote inclusivity, prevent loneliness and enhance rehabilitation provide members of the community with up to 1 year of subsided wages (up to a maximum of £3,200.00 per month) in order to support those convicted of wrongdoing and prevent further offending.


17. Promote new forms of ‘rehabilitation’ by providing up to £25,000 worth of ‘failure to integrate funding for offenders who fail to participate in previous schemes provide in-person examples in order countries of ‘what could have happened by showing offenders the prison system in order to provide a form of ‘shock therapy’ and reduce the chance of reoffending amongst future generations; this scheme will pay for the funding for travel (flights or otherwise), accommodation, food and supervision.

Ok so ummm just get them to do that then
Your "true Labour government" places an extreme tax burden on those worst off - whilst putting into place a top rate of only 55%, and at £85,000?!

Not to mention you'd lose the election on "seek to release 17,800 prisoners per year". I have to assume this is a troll post.
Reply 3
Galaxybrained fascistic take, this. Thankfully, nobody would vote for this crap,
Reply 4
Original post by EVRoosevelt
Your "true Labour government" places an extreme tax burden on those worst off - whilst putting into place a top rate of only 55%, and at £85,000?!

Not to mention you'd lose the election on "seek to release 17,800 prisoners per year". I have to assume this is a troll post.

I fail to see how it places an 'extreme tax burden' on those least well off? If you take the spending and taxation policies into consideration, the majority of those on lower incomes would have been far better off with a true Labour government.
Reply 5
Original post by gjd800
Galaxybrained fascistic take, this. Thankfully, nobody would vote for this crap,

I would draw your attention to the general election of 2017, where over 10 million voted for 'this crap' as you put it. There's clearly a yearning for a true labour government within the UK. Take the spending and taxation policies into consideration before passing judgement. You say 'this crap' but can you provide more detail on which elements you most dislike?
Reply 6
i thought this would be about depression or something equally relatable, not politics crap : <
Original post by EmilyJade24
Who would serve at the heart of a true labour government?

Taxation policies:

Income Tax:

5% - £0 - £5,500.

15% - £5,501 - £11,150.

25% - £11,151 - £25,200.

35% - £25,201 - £34,600.

45%- £34,601 - £50,100.

50% - £50,101 - £85,500.

55% - £85,501 plus.


National insurance policy:


5% - incomes up to £5,500

10.5% band for incomes between £5,501 and £50,100 (employer and employee rate).

15.5% band for incomes above £50,101 per year (employer and employee rate).

1.

Increase corporation tax from 19% to 35% (single rate).

2.

Reduce capital gains tax threshold from £12,300 to £500 and introduce a flat rate of 35%.

3.

Increase the main rate of VAT from 20% to 25%.

4.

Reduce the inheritance tax threshold from £325,000 to £85,000 and reduce rate from 40% to 25% (excluding first property up to a value £305,000).

5.

Introduce a 35% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £85,001 and £155,000.

6.

Introduce a 45% inheritance tax band for estates worth between £155,001 to £305,000.

7.

Introduce a 50% inheritance tax band for estates worth over £305,000.

8.

Introduce a 85% windfall tax on oil & gas companies.

9.

Abolish VED and introduce a fixed system of £1500.00 per year (double progressively for each additional vehicle owned - excluding electric and hydrogen)

10.

Replace council tax with a property tax (1.5% for properties below £305,000, 2.5% between £305,000 and £1 million and 5.5% above £1.25 million).

11.

Introduce a £25 per day charge entry fee for ICE vehicles (excluding hydrogen) entering any of the 70 cities within the UK (excluding NI).

12.

Introduce a fixed fuel duty levy of £1.85 per litre.

13.

Introduce an on street parking levy of £5.50p per day in towns, £5.50 in villages and £10.50 in cities.

14.

Abolish APD and introduce a fixed (exit and entry) charge of £500 for short haul flights, £1500 for long haul flights and £2500 for domestic (per passenger).

15.

Introduce a private health insurance tax of 50% of the total policy value per year (pre VAT).

16.

Introduce a £0.50 per mile (airline travel charge for all flights purchased within the UK - total milage for arrival+departure).

17.

Introduce a private school tax of 50% of the total value of school fees per year (pre VAT).

18.

Introduce a mandatory airport entry fee tax of £150.

19.

Introduce a multistory car park levy of £5.50 (or £15.50 in cities)per day.

20.

Introduce a £1.55 per mile ‘clean air’ charge for driving between the hours of 9:00 pm and 6:00 am.

21.

Introduce a minimum fuel purchase value of £15.00 (this is the amount which will be charged regardless of if the purchase is below £15.

22.

Introduce a charge of £5.50 per 1kg of any waste disposed of (not including recycling - Introduce payment gateways on public bins in order to prevent non-payment).

23.

Increase the sugar tax to £5 per 1 gram of sugar.

24.

Introduce a ‘fat tax’ of £10.50 per 1 gram of fat.

25.

Introduce an airport parking levy of £25.50 per day (minimum).

26.

Introduce a port parking levy of £15.50 per day (minimum).

27.

Introduce a yearly savings clawback tax of 5.5% of total savings above £55,500.00 (capped at a maximum of £1 million per year in tax)

28.

Introduce a disposal vehicle component levy by introducing a 35% tax (pre-vat) for any purpose of vehicle related fluids or parts.

29.

Increase and fix the minimum MOT charge from £54 to £155, increase the regularity of MOTs from once a year to twice.

30.

Mandate car servicing every 8,000 miles per year and introduce a £155 levy on car servicing.

31.

Introduce minimum alcohol pricing (per 100ml) of: £5.55p (below 3.85% ABV), £15.50 between 3.85% and 15.5% and £35.50 over 15.55%.

32.

Introduce a ‘taxi’ levy of £2.55 per mile between 8:00 pm and 6:30 am between Friday and Monday.

33.

Introduce mandatory insurance for all pets and introduce a 35% levy on the total value of the policy (pre-vat).

34.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all diesel cars registered prior to 2015 of £2500 per year.

35.

Introduce an extended clean air levy for all petrol cars registered prior to 2005 of £1500 per year.

36.

Introduce a £25.00 entry toll (chargeable once per day per motorway entrance) for all 50 motorways within the UK (excluding NI).

37.

Introduce a 55% takeaway tax (pre VAT) on all fast food vendors within the UK (excluding NI).

38.

Introduce a 35% supermarket profit windfall tax.

39.

Abolish the don-dom tax status and introduce a flat tax rate of 50% for all earnings over £500.

40.

Introduce minimum pricing of tobacco products of £25 per 25 grams of product.

41.

Introduce a 15.5% bankers bonus tax.

42.

From 2028, all petrol ICE vehicles will be levied at £550 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 50 mpg.

43.

From 2028, all diesel ICE vehicles will be levied £850 per year (based on manufacturers estimates) for vehicles which achieves less than 60 mpg.

44.

Fix and set the license renewal charge at £55 pounds and introduce yearly renewals.

45.

Seek to reduce traffic across all cities by at least 50% over 5 years introducing an additional city clean air millage levy of £1.55 per mile driven (excluding Electric and hydrogen vehicles) within any city in the UK (excluding NI)

Spending policies:

1.

Decrease the state pension age from 68 to 55.

2.

Increase the state pension from £165 per week to £385 per week.

3.

Abolish assessments for PIP, UC and AA

4.

Abolish AA tiered awards and introduce a single rate of £1350 per month.

5.

Abolish under 25 U/C ‘out of work’ awards and introduce a single tier component of £235 per week.

6.

Abolish the under 35 years of age restriction for Housing allowance.

7.

Introduce an immediate rent controls for all private sector tenants - fixing the price at £150.00 per month (with government subsidising the remaining balance).

8.

Introduce a homelessness transitionary fund, permitting those who identify as homeless to claim a payment of £10,000.00 (once per year)

9.

Reduce the welfare entitlement age from 18 to 16 (regardless of circumstance).

10.

Abolish U/C child element cap, introduce a single rate for all children and increase awards from £265 to £585 per month

11.

Increase child benefit from £19.50 to £55.25 per week.

12.

Introduce a single tier ‘disability’ element for U/C (abolishing PIP and) and setting element awards at a flat rate of £1350 per month.

13.

Introduce a social tariff for electricity, gas, broadband and water rates, fixing the maximum payment at £15 per month for welfare claimants, £25 per month for incomes under £62,000 per year and £35 for those earning over £62,001 per year.

14.

Abolish NHS car parking and prescription charges.

15.

Introduce a legal right to see a GP or Nurse within 3 hours.

16.

Train an additional 35,000 nurses, 5500 doctors and 15,000 social care workers over 5 years.

17.

Introduce a state funded social care service for pensioners over the age of 55.

18.

Introduce 40 hours of free child care for children aged 0 to 16

19.

Introduce a e-cycle/e-scooter scheme, allowing for the purchase of these forms of transport by claiming tax rebates (up to £2,500 maximum - capped at once per 3 years).

20.

Provide NHS prescriptions for E-cigarettes (below 2.5% nicotine).

21.

Introduce a public transport pass, permitting access to use all trains, buses and trams within the UK (excluding NI), set payment at £50 per year.

22.

Abolish student tuition loans and increase university funding from £9,000 per year per pupil to £15,500.

23.

Abolish interest on student tuition and maintenance loans for existing students.

24.

Introduce a student maintenance grant worth £15,500 per year per student.

25.

Invest £80 billion per year (over 5 years - £400 billion total) in green technology such as solar panels, heat pumps and wind turbines.

26.

Provide housing asset secured loans (i.e property value £185,000 borrowing £25,000 = 13.5% of property value and/or by allowing mortgage customers to add the debt to their existing mortgage interest free) of up to £25,000 to ensure homes are able to conform to an EPC rating of A.

27.

Invest £10 billion per year (£50 billion over 5 years) in building e-cycle/e-scooter highways in all cities (and a large number of towns) within the UK (excluding NI).

28.

Employ an additional 35,000 teachers over 5 years and aim to reduce class sizes to a maximum of 10 for infant, junior, secondary, sixth form and universities.

29.

Provide £15.5 billion per year to ensure all students (currently at 2.8 million) receive a £1500 grant to purchase a laptop or tablet to help in their education.

30.

Introduce free school meals for infant school, junior school, secondary schools(inc sixth form) and universities within the UK (excluding NI).

31.

Abolish second class Royal Mail stamps and fix the price for 1st class stamps at £0 per stamp.

32.

Introduce the right to statutory sick pay from day one and increase the rate to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

33.

Introduce the right to 15 months (after 3 months of employment) for maternity/paternity pay equivalent to 100% of earnings (capped at £2,500.00 per month - 50% state funded).

34.

Abolish legal aid and introduce a fully subsided legal service for criminal and family law.

35.

Build 850,000 Social housing units per year (EPC rating A).

36.

Build 50,000 private housing units per year (EPC rating A).

37.

Reduce UK territorial greenhouse gas emissions from 400 MtCo2 per year to less than 50 MtCo2 in 8 years.

38.

Ban the sale of new ICE (excluding hydrogen) by 2028.

39.

Invest £20 billion per year (over 5 years - £100 billion) to an the use of natural gas boilers by 2030 - ensuing everyone in the UK has either heat pumps or the gas grid is retrofitted to supply hydrogen only.

40.

Mandate a minimum employer pension contribution of 10.5%.

41.

Decrease the base rate of interest from 5.25% to 0%, removing Bank of England independence.


you didn't honestly expect me to read all of this, did you?
Original post by Ciel.
i thought this would be about depression or something equally relatable, not politics crap : <

@Ciel. there's a mental health thread somewhere on tsr if that would be better
Reply 9
Original post by MysteryyyGirl86
@Ciel. there's a mental health thread somewhere on tsr if that would be better

eh, i'll live
Reply 10
Original post by EmilyJade24
I would draw your attention to the general election of 2017, where over 10 million voted for 'this crap' as you put it. There's clearly a yearning for a true labour government within the UK. Take the spending and taxation policies into consideration before passing judgement. You say 'this crap' but can you provide more detail on which elements you most dislike?

It is crap.

I could, but it'd be a waste of my time.
(edited 2 months ago)
Reply 11
Original post by gjd800
It is crap.

I could, but it'd be a waste of my time.

What is it about achieving equality that makes you believe the policy proposals are 'crap'? If you compare my proposals to European averages in terms of tax rates and spending, it would make us a global leader as a country!
OP learned how to use ctrl+C and ctrl+p
Reply 13
Original post by Thisismyunitsr
OP learned how to use ctrl+C and ctrl+p

I would much rather a 'true' labour manifesto was ctrl+C and ctrl+p'd straight into our current economy and society 🙂
(edited 2 months ago)
Original post by EmilyJade24
I would much rather a 'true' labour manifesto was ctrl+C and ctrl+p'd straight into our current economy and society 🙂

Go move to North Korea if you want to see what a true socialist state looks like :smile:
Reply 15
Original post by Thisismyunitsr
Go move to North Korea if you want to see what a true socialist state looks like :smile:

Which of the proposed policies aspire to anything near 'true' socialism?

While I accept they are different, they are more akin to a social democracy the likes of what we already through Europe.

It's a fair balance between funding our public services, lifting people out of poverty and fair levels of taxation.
Original post by EmilyJade24
I fail to see how it places an 'extreme tax burden' on those least well off? If you take the spending and taxation policies into consideration, the majority of those on lower incomes would have been far better off with a true Labour government.

So, for someone earning £25,000 per year, working a 3 shift pattern in a care home in Northaw, living in a 2 bedroomed Victorian terraced house in Walthamstow, valued at £400,000, driving a 2009 Toyota Yaris 1.4D we're looking at:

Income tax £4584

NI contributions £2322

Vehicle Excise Duty £1500

Property tax £10000

Entry charge to Greater London for 46 weeks per year commute £5750

Fuel duty at 9000 miles per year and 45mpg £1680

Parking outside home £3517

Clean air at 76 shift working night-time journeys of 10 miles = £1178

MOT £310

Car service tax £155

Diesel levy £2500

Motorway toll 20 days per year £500

Clean air charging at a conservative 2000 city driving miles per year £3100

For a total of £37096 to be paid to your government on an income of £25000. Brilliant!
Reply 17
Original post by Dunnig Kruger
So, for someone earning £25,000 per year, working a 3 shift pattern in a care home in Northaw, living in a 2 bedroomed Victorian terraced house in Walthamstow, valued at £400,000, driving a 2009 Toyota Yaris 1.4D we're looking at:

Income tax £4584

NI contributions £2322

Vehicle Excise Duty £1500

Property tax £10000

Entry charge to Greater London for 46 weeks per year commute £5750

Fuel duty at 9000 miles per year and 45mpg £1680

Parking outside home £3517

Clean air at 76 shift working night-time journeys of 10 miles = £1178

MOT £310

Car service tax £155

Diesel levy £2500

Motorway toll 20 days per year £500

Clean air charging at a conservative 2000 city driving miles per year £3100

For a total of £37096 to be paid to your government on an income of £25000. Brilliant!

The net income, after income tax and national insurance for a person on £25,000 would be £18,094 without taking into account the minimum 10.5% employee pension contribution

The payable rates for electricity, gas, broadband and water rates would be fixed at a combined £300.00 per year (or £25 per month).

If you were to convert your private property into social housing status (in the pursuit to create at least 850,000 new social housing units per year), your combined monthly ‘rent’ would be capped at £150 a month (or £1,800 per year) and your property tax would be 10% of the market value given social-private would operate at a 80/10 ratio.

10% of £400,000 is £40,000, therefore meaning your property tax would be £600 per year - in this scenario the home owner would also be entitled to have the remaining balance, providing it’s under £305,000, completely written off.

You’d additionally save a net of £1450 per year if you were to scrap your vehicle and opt for the £50 per year unlimited travel pass which would allow for access to all forms of public transport across the UK.

If you were to purchase an electric e-bike, which would grant you up to a £2,500 per year tax refund), the person in this scenario would be able to save £5,750 per year and travel on the extensive number of cycle highways which would be rolled out as part of the “£10 billion per year (£50 billion over 5 years) in building e-cycle/e-scooter highways in all cities (and a large number of towns)”.

The above would also save you £1,680 a year on fuel, £3,517 for parking outside your home, £1178 for clear air night shifts, £500 on motorway tolls, clean air charging (in cities) of £3,100 per year and finally, £310 on MOT’s and £155 on car servicing levies for a total saving of: £10,440 per year.

Let’s say this person had 3 children, well that’s an additional £585 in U/C child element and £221 in child benefit per child, or £28,980 per year combined.

So in fact, from your £25,000 a year, after tax and other costs, taking into consideration all the other measures (without exploring them all in the entirety), that would be a net payment, per year of: £45,000 (rounded up), or £3,750 per month.
Reply 18
Labour = Just entrust your bank account to the Labour Government so they can recklessly give away your £££ to all and sundry using it to groom more needy Labour voters
Original post by Muttly
Labour = Just entrust your bank account to the Labour Government so they can recklessly give away your £££ to all and sundry using it to groom more needy Labour voters

Indeed - they hammer the successful to fund a benefits culture.

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