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Trignometric Integration Question

I'm stuck with this integral

12(x21)dx \displaystyle \int_1^2 \sqrt{(x^2-1)} dx

I substitute.
[br]x=sec(u)[br]dx=sec(u)tan(u)du[br][br]x = sec(u)[br]dx = sec(u)tan(u) du[br]

Getting:
[br]12 tan2(u)sec(u)du[br][br]\displaystyle \int_1^2\ tan^2(u)sec(u) du[br]

From here I get stuck. I've tried various substitutions but I can't seem to get close to making it work.

Any ideas?

Thank for you for any assistance.
(edited 8 years ago)
did you try x = sinu instead ?
Reply 2
Original post by dominicwild
I'm stuck with this integral

12(x21)dx \displaystyle \int_1^2 \sqrt{(x^2-1)} dx

I substitute.
[br]x=sec(u)[br]dx=sec(u)tan(u)du[br][br]x = sec(u)[br]dx = sec(u)tan(u) du[br]

Getting:
[br]12 tan2(u)sec(u)du[br][br]\displaystyle \int_1^2\ tan^2(u)sec(u) du[br]

From here I get stuck. I've tried various substitutions but I can't seem to get close to making it work.

Any ideas?

Thank for you for any assistance.


I would have used x = coshu
It is much easier
You can use a simple hyperbolic substitution here, have you covered hyperbolic functions or is this a C4 question?

cosh2θ1=sinh2θ \cosh^2 \theta -1 = \sinh^2 \theta

x=coshθdx=sinhθdθ x = \cosh \theta \to dx = \sinh\theta \hspace{1 mm} d\theta

Do it yourself from here.
As others have said, there are substitutions you can make that would make this much easier.
Don't forget to take care with the limits of your integration, though! Are you sure they'd be still be 1 and 2 after that substitution?
Reply 5
Original post by TeeEm
I would have used x = coshu
It is much easier


So it is. Thanks, that did make it much simpler.
Reply 6
Original post by dominicwild
So it is. Thanks, that did make it much simpler.



no worries
Reply 7
Original post by Louisb19
You can use a simple hyperbolic substitution here, have you covered hyperbolic functions or is this a C4 question?

cosh2θ1=sinh2θ \cosh^2 \theta -1 = \sinh^2 \theta

x=coshθdx=sinhθdθ x = \cosh \theta \to dx = \sinh\theta \hspace{1 mm} d\theta

Do it yourself from here.


This isn't a C4 question. I'm an undergraduate minoring in maths, I haven't covered hyperbolic functions as much as I'd like. Since I didn't take further maths, so I need to do some leg work here evidently with considering them in relation to integration.

Thanks for the help, as stated this substitution did make things much simpler.
Reply 8
Original post by studentro
As others have said, there are substitutions you can make that would make this much easier.
Don't forget to take care with the limits of your integration, though! Are you sure they'd be still be 1 and 2 after that substitution?


No worries, I shall not forget. :smile:
Original post by dominicwild
This isn't a C4 question. I'm an undergraduate minoring in maths, I haven't covered hyperbolic functions as much as I'd like. Since I didn't take further maths, so I need to do some leg work here evidently with considering them in relation to integration.

Thanks for the help, as stated this substitution did make things much simpler.


Just go over Osborn's rule and play around with it when you see a square root in the integral, you can also use trig substitutions if it looks like it would work.

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