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Given that y = ln(1+e^x), find that dy/dx and show that (1+e^x)(d^2y/dx^2) = dy/dx.

dy/dx = e^x/1+e^x

I found that the d^2y/dx^2 = e^x(1+e^x) - e^2x/ (1+e^x)^2.

Can't do the last part though - help please? Will rep
Reply 1
lnu=1/u
so ln(1+e^x) = 1/(1+e^x) multiplied by the derivative of 1+e^x which is e^x
so (1/(1+e^x))(e^x) = e^x/1+e^x
Original post by TheKevinFang
Given that y = ln(1+e^x), find that dy/dx and show that (1+e^x)(d^2y/dx^2) = dy/dx.

dy/dx = e^x/1+e^x

I found that the d^2y/dx^2 = e^x(1+e^x) - e^2x/ (1+e^x)^2.

Can't do the last part though - help please? Will rep


Multiply the 2nd derivative by 1+ex1+e^x, expand the brackets in the numerator and look for cancellation :smile:
Original post by GUMI
lnu=1/u
so ln(1+e^x) = 1/(1+e^x) multiplied by the derivative of 1+e^x which is e^x
so (1/(1+e^x))(e^x) = e^x/1+e^x

?????
Original post by Indeterminate
Multiply the 2nd derivative by 1+ex1+e^x, expand the brackets in the numerator and look for cancellation :smile:

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This is the best I could get - I'm not sure what to do from here, even if it may be painfully obvious...
Original post by TheKevinFang
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This is the best I could get - I'm not sure what to do from here, even if it may be painfully obvious...


Noo, don't cancel the brackets containing 1+ex1+e^x.

You should expand the numerator and look for two terms that cancel each other out! :smile:
Original post by TheKevinFang
Given that y = ln(1+e^x), find that dy/dx and show that (1+e^x)(d^2y/dx^2) = dy/dx.

dy/dx = e^x/1+e^x

I found that the d^2y/dx^2 = e^x(1+e^x) - e^2x/ (1+e^x)^2.

Can't do the last part though - help please? Will rep


Expand the numerator of your second part and simplify. Then multiply (1+e^x) with the second part, then cancel and you'll get your answer.
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 7
Moved to maths.
Reply 8
Original post by TheKevinFang
Given that y = ln(1+e^x), find that dy/dx and show that (1+e^x)(d^2y/dx^2) = dy/dx.

dy/dx = e^x/1+e^x

I found that the d^2y/dx^2 = e^x(1+e^x) - e^2x/ (1+e^x)^2.

Can't do the last part though - help please? Will rep


Is this parametric differentiation or am I completely off the hook?
Reply 9
Am I too late for this thread?
Reply 10
Original post by TeeEm
Am I too late for this thread?


No feel free to go through it as I'm confused as to what the solution is:s-smilie:
Reply 11
Original post by RosaA
No feel free to go through it as I'm confused as to what the solution is:s-smilie:


I would normally but I am brain dead now.
Reply 12
Original post by TeeEm
I would normally but I am brain dead now.


:colonhash: Don't worry about it

;'D
Original post by Indeterminate
Noo, don't cancel the brackets containing 1+ex1+e^x.

You should expand the numerator and look for two terms that cancel each other out! :smile:

Thanks got it - the e^x's cancel out :smile:

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