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OCR M3 (non MEI) Wednesday 8th June

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Reply 80
Original post by Miracle-
2/7 seconds from suvat. t = root(0.8/9.8)

3/4 of a period so 3/4 * 2pi/root98 = 0.476 s

the first bit from 0.075 above to 0 = sin-1(0.075/0.225)/root98 = 0.034s

most likely something wrong, how did you do it?


I used a suvat to find the time for Q to reach P, which was t=2/7

Then I used x=0.225cos(wt), where w=7root(2)

with x=-0.075 to find the time to reach the bottom, which gave t=0.193

and x=-0.1 to get to the point where it is no longer in SHM, which gave t=0.205

v^2=98(0.225^2-0.1^2) to find the velocity leaving SHM, which gave v=2.00

Then another suvat to find the time until it is instantaneously at rest, which gave t=0.204

The sum of the above is t=0.888
Original post by drandy76
One of the was the linear motion with variable forces question, the other was either impact question or SHM question


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'Other' SHM?? what was on the other SHM question??
Original post by drandy76
One of the was the linear motion with variable forces question, the other was either impact question or SHM question


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and do you remember the variable forces result? I remember getting a minimum and maximum velocity of like -3.5 and +11.5 or something
Original post by Simonium1010
and do you remember the variable forces result? I remember getting a minimum and maximum velocity of like -3.5 and +11.5 or something


Soz I meant the elastic thingy question, yeah I got those numbers as well


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Original post by Muzzles
I used a suvat to find the time for Q to reach P, which was t=2/7Then I used x=0.225cos(wt), where w=7root(2)with x=-0.075 to find the time to reach the bottom, which gave t=0.193and x=-0.1 to get to the point where it is no longer in SHM, which gave t=0.205v^2=98(0.225^2-0.1^2) to find the velocity leaving SHM, which gave v=2.00Then another suvat to find the time until it is instantaneously at rest, which gave t=0.204The sum of the above is t=0.888
oh shiit. I forgot about it leaving SHM when its above 0.6m. yeah your way is right.
Original post by drandy76
Soz I meant the elastic thingy question, yeah I got those numbers as well


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cool. what about the answers to that elastic shm one then??
and which question was the one with the circular motion and find when the string goes slack..?
Reply 86
Original post by Simonium1010
do you remember what question 2 and 3 were on?


Think Q2 might've been m=0.2, F=3cos(2t).

Think the final answer was 8.77m/s, think Vmax was 11.5 and Vmin was -3.5.

Q3 was P between two strings, max KE was 1.04 I think, x=1/6 where x is extension of left string. Could easily be wrong
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Original post by JoeyTr
Think Q2 might've been m=0.2, F=3cos(2t).

Think the final answer was 8.77m/s, think Vmax was 11.5 and Vmin was -3.5.

Q3 was P between two strings, max KE was 1.04 I think, x=1/6 where x is extension of left string. Couldn't easily be wrong


that's exactly what I got... I messsed up the one with the tension in a circle going slack though, on the part where you gotta find the range of U
Reply 88
Original post by Simonium1010
that's exactly what I got... I messsed up the one with the tension in a circle going slack though, on the part where you gotta find the range of U


Yeah it was tricky I messed that up slightly, didn't write a lower bound for U so that it reaches the horizon. And in part i I got cos(theta) is 2/3 but then manged to get the height wrong somehow! Tricky business
Reply 89
Shall we try putting an unofficial mark scheme together while it's fresh in everyone's head?

I've created a Google doc to get us started: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JPbdPawHPFl8DcSCJtAmXYbFhW6jP9A3TuOhSxaWh5Q/edit?usp=sharing
Original post by JoeyTr
Yeah it was tricky I messed that up slightly, didn't write a lower bound for U so that it reaches the horizon. And in part i I got cos(theta) is 2/3 but then manged to get the height wrong somehow! Tricky business


I'd say I'm on around 57/72.. enough for 80 UMS do you think?
Reply 91
Original post by Simonium1010
I'd say I'm on around 57/72.. enough for 80 UMS do you think?


I reckon thats about 80-85 UMS yh, maybe more, A* has been as low as 57
Reply 92
Original post by Muzzles
I used a suvat to find the time for Q to reach P, which was t=2/7

Then I used x=0.225cos(wt), where w=7root(2)

with x=-0.075 to find the time to reach the bottom, which gave t=0.193

and x=-0.1 to get to the point where it is no longer in SHM, which gave t=0.205

v^2=98(0.225^2-0.1^2) to find the velocity leaving SHM, which gave v=2.00

Then another suvat to find the time until it is instantaneously at rest, which gave t=0.204

The sum of the above is t=0.888


Is the velocity leaving the SHM not the same as the velocity entering the SHM due to energy conservation
Reply 93
Original post by XY123
I reckon thats about 80-85 UMS yh, maybe more, A* has been as low as 57


Yes I'd second that, I reckon it'll be similar to June 2011 boundaries, 52=A, 60=90%
Reply 94
I know this probably sounds weird but how did everyone's classmates find it? I was the only person doing it at my school so didn't really get the perspective. I don't really think people on the StudentRoom is a fair sample of how difficult people found the paper generally haha!
Reply 95
Original post by JoeyTr
I know this probably sounds weird but how did everyone's classmates find it? I was the only person doing it at my school so didn't really get the perspective. I don't really think people on the StudentRoom is a fair sample of how difficult people found the paper generally haha!


There's three of us in my school and I think we all though it was tougher than previous years
Original post by JoeyTr
I know this probably sounds weird but how did everyone's classmates find it? I was the only person doing it at my school so didn't really get the perspective. I don't really think people on the StudentRoom is a fair sample of how difficult people found the paper generally haha!


Don't think anyone really like this paper, June 2012 grade boundaries needed


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Original post by JoeyTr
I know this probably sounds weird but how did everyone's classmates find it? I was the only person doing it at my school so didn't really get the perspective. I don't really think people on the StudentRoom is a fair sample of how difficult people found the paper generally haha!


We had about 20 doing it and all found it pretty bad. Average of about 63 marks I'd say, maybe a bit fewer
Reply 98
woudnt the last question involve a phase shift, so a extra constant in the sin bracket since it didnt start at the extreme extension?

i got the amp and other things wrong so il only get about 6 marks total for last question but im pretty sure you needed a phase shift,and im pretty sure it was the first time its ever came up on ocr
Original post by bred123
woudnt the last question involve a phase shift, so a extra constant in the sin bracket since it didnt start at the extreme extension?

i got the amp and other things wrong so il only get about 6 marks total for last question but im pretty sure you needed a phase shift,and im pretty sure it was the first time its ever came up on ocr


It came up recently 14 I think, component falls under gravity plus shm stuff if that's what you meant by phase shift?


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