I think university fees should be abolished

Plenty of senior people in the business world didn't go to university - Richard Branson for one.

If the government abolished fees then maybe they could aim for targets like 75-80% of youngsters going to university. If Britain wants to be a competitive economy with skilled and educated people, it needs to aim to get the whole of its young generation through the doors of a university. Britain annually churns out 300,000 graduates, whereas countries such as India and China churn out 2-3million. Therefore how can we compete? By removing the barriers that prevent people from going to uni; namely tuition fees. What do you guys think?

And are you going to be the one that aims to sweep the streets, or scub **** from public toilets filled with needles? People need aspirations and that what university imbues them with.

First of all, Say NO to international students, this would give a British Degree Prestiege, and make the degree more worthwhile, whilst freeing up places for those that are skeptical about going due to the fees. The fees can be lowered but not abolished. I think if they were something like £1000 a year, with free Accomadation, then it would stop people going to uni and p!ssing about because theres still a nominal cost.?

I think you should be abolished...

Not true. University is a place for an education, not just to train you for a job.

Well I don't know of anyone who is going to university just for education. Yes education is important and enjoyable, but at the end of the day, degrees and higher level qualifications are FOR JOBS. They should enable you to go to get a better career than with just A levels or NVQs. Anyone who goes to uni and gets a useless qualification from a second rate of university is a waste of time; there's alot of people doing this; why should the government and more importantly our taxes pat for this?

What's wrong with having well-educated plasterers?

The point is that university should be available if you want to go and are able enough. Having university fees closes the option of going to university to some who might wish to go otherwise. I don't think anyone's saying everyone should go to university, just that it should be open to more people.

I think fees for hard science, medical students ect should be abolished because these are productive and highly valued. And pay for that by taking away the loans for art, music, performing arts and others I can't think of, maybe psychology? Too many people goto uni to **** around for three years, not to get an education to go into employment.

Taking away the loans, or increasing the fees?

I dunno, possibly both.

So, you want to take away the loans for MOST subjects, meaning that only a few subjects are taught properly at university, and that anyone who wants to do a different subject is likely to have to wait until they're 30+ to study theirs?
That means that someone who wants to study one of your 'less useful' subjects has to save their own money, to then pay for a degree which'll be of benefit to them for ten years less than it otherwise would.

Exactly. Wouldn't you rather have the money being used to fund someones three year holiday be used to have better policing, better hospitals? They don't need the money and all they do is doss and party.

Just because someone isn't doing physics, maths or medicine, that doesn't mean they're having a 'three-year holiday'.

I hate to spoil it for you but it does. You're avoiding the point, why should we have to pay for people to do unproductive things? Becuase I've got better things to spend my money on tbvh.



But you wouldn't be improving 'education' because these people goto uni as a matter of ethier doing what all their friends are doing or to avoid going to work, i.e. not for the purpose of education. Catch 22. I'd rather the money be spent on national defence tbh.