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Reply 20
I am undecided about Abortion.

I think that the numbers of abortions should be controlled better, it seems some people are just willy nilly about protection and just seem to fall into the mindset of; 'oh it's okay i'll just have an abortion npthnx'.

However in the event of rapes etc. I think that an abortion should be permitted, maybe under court order or something like that.

I feel that this would work in the west, however in poorer developing countries it's a whole different matter.
Reply 21
caroline147
To clarify, I think overseas funding (if it cannot be eliminated) should be judged on its political/economic merits rather than provided out of some misplaced morality.


:confused: could you explain what you mean by this please?
samba
:confused: could you explain what you mean by this please?


If the Government is going to provide funding for overseas operations, I believe it should justify its choice in funding based on possible benefits to the US economy. The Government has little justification, in my opinion, for placing ethical judgements onto its choices.
Reply 23
caroline147
If the Government is going to provide funding for overseas operations, I believe it should justify its choice in funding based on possible benefits to the US economy. The Government has little justification, in my opinion, for placing ethical judgements onto its choices.


Really? So screw Africa, screw victims of natural disasters, and be completely selfish?
samba
Really? So screw Africa, screw victims of natural disasters, and be completely selfish?


Yes, essentially.
The quote in my usertitle seems apt in this case. Plus, charities exist for a reason.
caroline147
Yes, essentially.
The quote in my usertitle seems apt in this case. Plus, charities exist for a reason.


Charities don't have enough means to cope with a hurricane or an earthquake, or war. It is in this cases that foreign governments should help.
Reply 26
Sick stuff.

He gave the green light:biggrin: to abortion.
Reply 27
caroline147
Yes, essentially.
The quote in my usertitle seems apt in this case. Plus, charities exist for a reason.


I'd love to know your stance for relationships lol. Honestly, I'd prefer to pay my taxes for the government to provide African nations with drugs and food, or disaster victims with a roof over their head, then to provide snotty little students like you with 3 years of 'education'
TeDaX
Charities don't have enough means to cope with a hurricane or an earthquake, or war. It is in this cases that foreign governments should help.


"Should"? See, I'm of the opinion that the only moral responsibility of a government is to preserve freedom. Charities receive greater donations in emergencies. There is also the IMF to deal with such issues.
Reply 29
caroline147
"Should"? See, I'm of the opinion that the only moral responsibility of a government is to preserve freedom. Charities receive greater donations in emergencies. There is also the IMF to deal with such issues.


Under your model the IMF would have no funding...

And to preserve whos freedom?
samba
I'd love to know your stance for relationships lol. Honestly, I'd prefer to pay my taxes for the government to provide African nations with drugs and food, or disaster victims with a roof over their head, then to provide snotty little students like you with 3 years of 'education'


My stance on relationships? What do you presume would be particularly alarming? :p:

Well, whilst I agree somewhat with your ethical position on Africa vs. students, I don't think the Government should be in a position to decide either way.
samba
Under your model the IMF would have no funding...

And to preserve whos freedom?


The IMF could be funded through many other methods.

To preserve the freedom of the citizens of their own nation. I realise this is an unpopular view, but there we are.
Reply 32
caroline147
My stance on relationships? What do you presume would be particularly alarming? :p:

Well, whilst I agree somewhat with your ethical position on Africa vs. students, I don't think the Government should be in a position to decide either way.


lol, to see if you'd carry the philosophy of complete selfishness over? :p:

And you're ideal of government is just that, an ideal. It's not realistic.
I'll never get to understand why in a society like ours individuality disappears as people grow more selfish

I guess you wouldn't be saying that if you'd faced hardship.
samba
Honestly, I'd prefer to pay my taxes for the government to provide African nations with drugs and food, or disaster victims with a roof over their head, then to provide snotty little students like you with 3 years of 'education'
Honestly, I'd prefer to have tax cuts than have my present and future money on tax go to layabout retards on benefits or proles who can't afford healthcare.

Oh, wait, I just made an unfair statement :rolleyes:
Bagration
Honestly, I'd prefer to have tax cuts than have my present and future money on tax go to layabout retards on benefits or proles who can't afford healthcare.

Oh, wait, I just made an unfair statement :rolleyes:


Are you serious here?

Benefits go to people who truly need them. Don't you think healthcare is a basic human right?
samba
lol, to see if you'd carry the philosophy of complete selfishness over? :p:

And you're ideal of government is just that, an ideal. It's not realistic.


Belief in capitalism/free markets does not automatically translate to selfishness :p:

My ideal of a government is a lot more realistic, in my opinion, than the socialist one which you are presumably advocating. This discussion is not wholly indicative of my 'ideal' of a government, in any case.
Reply 37
Bagration
Honestly, I'd prefer to have tax cuts than have my present and future money on tax go to layabout retards on benefits or proles who can't afford healthcare.

Oh, wait, I just made an unfair statement :rolleyes:


Completely agree on the NHS. I'd opt out in an instant, as I have private healthcare.

The benefits thing costs nothing anyway relatively, so I don't care about that.
TeDaX
I'll never get to understand why in a society like ours individuality disappears as people grow more selfish

I guess you wouldn't be saying that if you'd faced hardship.


Stop trolling.
Your statement is completely paradoxical & you know nothing about my life.
TeDaX
Are you serious here?

Benefits go to people who truly need them. Don't you think healthcare is a basic human right?
Erm, I don't think that human rights should be based on coercion, no. "Proles who can't afford healthcare" was a blanket statement to prove a point I don't think Samba has picked up on.

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