Stalin

Without Stalin, we would have ended up with a huge Nazi empire with that Austrian bugger in charge. Then they would have linked up with the Japanese and could have won the war, which is ****.

Likewise, he was a big man, and big men do make big mistakes, however a lot of his mistakes are unforgivable.

All those who see Stalin as a necessary evil need a history lesson.

Learn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement. Stalin only fought Hitler because Hitler betrayed him, otherwise he was very happy to share Europe with the Nazi's.

Stalin was the scum of the earth.

He was a bad man, but he helped to defeat a badder man.


Thats my advanced summary of the situation.

Was a monster, a dictator who should never have dictated. Sent too many people to their deaths, before, during and after the war for his foolish 'dream'. A criminal who was scared of his own shadow, a hero? I think not.

Do any of you regard him as the saviour of humanity or even an idol, influence or inspiration?

All those who see Stalin as a necessary evil need a history lesson.

Learn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement. Stalin only fought Hitler because Hitler betrayed him, otherwise he was very happy to share Europe with the Nazi's.

Stalin was the scum of the earth.

without stalin, nazi germany would have taken virtually most of the world.

You're forgetting that Stalin industrialised Russia. Without Stalins brtual industralisation, Russia would have crumbled from invasion, no question.

Hitler did the same for Germany. So what?

Well what do you think? With Russia out of the equation (in terms of any military prowess or influence), Nazi Germany would have held Europe (including the UK) easily. Therefore I believe that Stalin and his actions were necessary, despite the utter evil which he committed on his own people. .

What you're forgetting is that Stalin was attacked, and not the other way around. As a matter of fact at first he refused to believe that Hitler betrayed him.

Had Hitler decided not to betray him, we would all speak German/Russian today. Except for me - I'd be dead.

You regard Hitler as a worse person than stalin? Though Hitler brings about nightmare to Europe, he helped German out from the depression very successfully and effectively. That was only achieved by president Franklin Rossevelt at the same time! Stalin kills over half of his military commanders to keep his throne safe! And that's why Russian army was flushed by the German at the first stage of the war. Hitler is a criminal, a bet loser who losed himself and German and the whole world, but he is not a foolish ruthless killer like Stalin.

without stalin, nazi germany would have taken virtually most of the world.

What you're forgetting is that Stalin was attacked, and not the other way around. As a matter of fact at first he refused to believe that Hitler betrayed him.

Had Hitler decided not to betray him, we would all speak German/Russian today. Except for me - I'd be dead.



Well then one could say that Hitler tried to save the world from communism (which is true, in fact). Which is worse is a question of how stupid a person is, really.

As for the development of the Russian people - the generation that grew under Stalin is struck by trauma of hunger, poverty and constant fear. Life under Stalin was unbearable. My grandmother was so paranoid that even when she lived in Israel, she hid her money inside a frozen chicken instead of putting it in the bank (not kidding).

I recommend that you read "we the living" for a personal account of life in communist Russia.

Hitler would've betrayed the Soviets anyway, he hated them and thought of them as a sub-human race.