The 19 year old pedophile who has never gone near a child- Interesting podcast

Someone on my facebook linked this podcast recently, and it gave a really interesting perspective on what it must be like for a human being with decent moral values to suffer from pedophilia, to be attracted to children but to despise yourself for it.

http://www.upworthy.com/this-19-year-old-pedophile-has-never-gone-near-a-child-and-he-needs-you-to-hear-his-story?c=ufb1

I must admit, I've thought on occasions before that all pedophiles are sick, vile human beings, who've experienced bleak lives and are tarred from it. But in this podcast speaks a 19 year old who had a stable background, a caring family, but developed an addiction to child pornography, which he is now tackling and trying his hardest to restrain his urges.

I think obviously those who abuse children are worthy of the hatred they receive, and I fully endorse harsh criminal punishment for them. But I think we're also holding a backwards view on the issue. It appears that some people genuinely feel attracted to pre-pubescent children, they can't help that, no matter how much they try. And they are controlling their urges every day. The question is what do we do about this.

Just thought I'd hear your thoughts on the video :smile:

Reply 1

karmacrunch

21

All sexual feelings for a child are wrong, whether you like it or not. I didn't watch the video because I don't really want to but i think that paedophilla is a mental illness. If this guy really wants to change he should get therapy or just pick himself up before he gets into trouble.

Reply 2

manchesterunited15

Original post by karmacrunch

All sexual feelings for a child are wrong, whether you like it or not. I didn't watch the video because I don't really want to but i think that paedophilla is a mental illness. If this guy really wants to change he should get therapy or just pick himself up before he gets into trouble.

What do you mean by this?

Reply 3

karmacrunch

21

Original post by manchesterunited15

What do you mean by this?

He knows that paedophilla is wrong which is good. You can't just sit there and feel bad for yourself- he needs help or reach out to people to help him. Or he could tell himself whenever he is out that what is feeling is wrong and he should rise above it.

Reply 4

james22

16

There is absolutely nothing wrong with any thoughts or feelings of any kind. So long as you don't act on ones like this you're fine.

Reply 5

james22

16

Original post by karmacrunch

He knows that paedophilla is wrong which is good. You can't just sit there and feel bad for yourself- he needs help or reach out to people to help him. Or he could tell himself whenever he is out that what is feeling is wrong and he should rise above it.

Do you mean wrong as in not normal, or wrong as in morally wrong?

Reply 6

Masiemaths

Original post by karmacrunch

All sexual feelings for a child are wrong, whether you like it or not. I didn't watch the video because I don't really want to but i think that paedophilla is a mental illness. If this guy really wants to change he should get therapy or just pick himself up before he gets into trouble.

How closed minded of you. If they are just thoughts and he never acts on them then who gives you the right to judge so harshly?

and who gives you the right to denote thinking such things as a sign of being mentally ill? Maybe its just one part of him? Maybe we shouldn't define him by what hes attracted to but what he contributes to society and what he makes out of his life?

Reply 7

manchesterunited15

Original post by karmacrunch

He knows that paedophilla is wrong which is good. You can't just sit there and feel bad for yourself- he needs help or reach out to people to help him. Or he could tell himself whenever he is out that what is feeling is wrong and he should rise above it.

He already knows not to act on it.

Reply 8

karmacrunch

21

Original post by james22

Do you mean wrong as in not normal, or wrong as in morally wrong?

Both. Definitely (especially morally)

Reply 9

karmacrunch

21

Original post by manchesterunited15

He already knows not to act on it.

So? The feeling is still there.

Reply 10

manchesterunited15

Original post by karmacrunch

So? The feeling is still there.

So? Feelings don't hurt anyone.

Reply 11

Gjaykay

11

You can think or feel anything you want - no one in creation can say otherwise. Acting on it, harming children is horrible. Good on the guy if he's trying to get help, more pedophiles should.

Reply 12

james22

16

Original post by karmacrunch

Both. Definitely (especially morally)

How can it be immoral? It is not hurting anyone, and he cannot help it.

Reply 13

karmacrunch

21

Original post by Masiemaths

How closed minded of you. If they are just thoughts and he never acts on them then who gives you the right to judge so harshly?

and who gives you the right to denote thinking such things as a sign of being mentally ill? Maybe its just one part of him? Maybe we shouldn't define him by what hes attracted to but what he contributes to society and what he makes out of his life?

No I'm not narrow-minded. If you were a 12 year old who was being though about by a grown man how would you react? It shouldn't be part of him; although fantasies are just fantasies (they are not supposed to be acted upon), you need to know what is wrong and right.

This is my opinion and I am keeping it.

Reply 14

Green Marble

Hang the dirty ****er

Reply 15

Green Marble

Original post by TolerantBeing

Someone on my facebook linked this podcast recently, and it gave a really interesting perspective on what it must be like for a human being with decent moral values to suffer from pedophilia, to be attracted to children but to despise yourself for it.

http://www.upworthy.com/this-19-year-old-pedophile-has-never-gone-near-a-child-and-he-needs-you-to-hear-his-story?c=ufb1

I must admit, I've thought on occasions before that all pedophiles are sick, vile human beings, who've experienced bleak lives and are tarred from it. But in this podcast speaks a 19 year old who had a stable background, a caring family, but developed an addiction to child pornography, which he is now tackling and trying his hardest to restrain his urges.

I think obviously those who abuse children are worthy of the hatred they receive, and I fully endorse harsh criminal punishment for them. But I think we're also holding a backwards view on the issue. It appears that some people genuinely feel attracted to pre-pubescent children, they can't help that, no matter how much they try. And they are controlling their urges every day. The question is what do we do about this.

Just thought I'd hear your thoughts on the video :smile:

rationalising peadophilia is a step closer to accepting it. This is why I despise liberalism

Reply 16

CJKay

19

Original post by karmacrunch

He knows that paedophilla is wrong which is good. You can't just sit there and feel bad for yourself- he needs help or reach out to people to help him. Or he could tell himself whenever he is out that what is feeling is wrong and he should rise above it.

If you're not going to listen to the podcast, don't reply. He has done everything you mentioned but, as pedophilia is a sexual attraction and not a mental illness, it obviously has not helped.
You sound like you're purposely ignoring everyone and everything to uphold your view that anybody who has differing fantasies to yours is morally obliged to "just disappear", much like how it used to be with homosexuality. Unfortunately for pedophiles, it will never be okay to act on it, unlike homosexuality.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 17

RollerBall

20

Original post by karmacrunch

All sexual feelings for a child are wrong, whether you like it or not. I didn't watch the video because I don't really want to but i think that paedophilla is a mental illness. If this guy really wants to change he should get therapy or just pick himself up before he gets into trouble.