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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!To be undecided about euthanasia is the same as being anti-euthanasia. You do nothing, and therefore something happens because of it (in this case the person remains alive).(Original post by RollerBall)
I wouldn't say deciding your view on something would result in an event though.
For example, if I remained indecisive about euthanasia. No event would happen, because my personal choice is insignificant. All it means is the interviewers would think I'm a tool.
While you are right that your personal opinion is irrelevant in a lot of situations you will come across , I think that ethical questions in medical interviews are intended that you should assume that your own personal values will have a direct impact on the situation. -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!I think I'd be inclined to agree, tbh. Especially with the do nothing is basically the same as disagreeing with a lot of the ethical questions you're asked about it.(Original post by Phalanges)
To be undecided about euthanasia is the same as being anti-euthanasia. You do nothing, and therefore something happens because of it (in this case the person remains alive).
While you are right that your personal opinion is irrelevant in a lot of situations you will come across , I think that ethical questions in medical interviews are intended that you should assume that your own personal values will have a direct impact on the situation.
I wouldn't want to try this out in an interview though, they could still end up turning around and being like yeah... But if you were forced to pick, what would you pick? Then you'd be a bit SOL if you hadn't thought about it. That, or you'd get bonus points for originality. -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Yeah, I probably wouldn't recommend a bit of pop philosophy in an interview unless you were pretty confident about it.(Original post by RollerBall)
I think I'd be inclined to agree, tbh. Especially with the do nothing is basically the same as disagreeing with a lot of the ethical questions you're asked about it.
I wouldn't want to try this out in an interview though, they could still end up turning around and being like yeah... But if you were forced to pick, what would you pick? Then you'd be a bit SOL if you hadn't thought about it. That, or you'd get bonus points for originality.
Although given the fact that a) it would probably take about the same time to research and reflect to prepare a good philosophical answer to an ethical question as it would to give a balanced, two-sided argument, b) there's nothing to stop you from exploring both avenues and switching depending on how well you perceive you answer to be received in an interview and c) I'd imagine very few people go down this route, I would say that given the right approach it's a style that could pay off nicely.
Madness. Especially when you consider that most medical courses require a chemistry A Level for the relatively basic biochemistry you learn.(Original post by Fission_Mailed)
Not at Exeter. They want Bio + one science. -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Indeed. Some kind of malevolent spectre must have taken over the minds of the admissions office staff.(Original post by Phalanges)
Madness. Especially when you consider that most medical courses require a chemistry A Level for the relatively basic biochemistry you learn.
But it does mean that you can do biochem and subsequently medicine without chem. -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!RE UCL night life - pretty good, fairly ready-made (there are a few favourite places most people go) and options to go do whatever else you like. Unions other than Huntley are a bit meh though.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!(Original post by Phalanges)
I would question just how conscious a decision it is. By remaining indecisive you remain inactive, which results in a definite set of events taking place.
It's not as if you can claim ignorance that your indecisiveness would result in an event, so at some level you not only acknowledge that your indecisiveness is in itself a decision, but you choose it. So in theory I would say that being indecisive over any decision long enough for it to play out is an active decision.
Precisely.
In the Train scenario.
Doing nothing condemns 5 to death, where as acting condemns 1 to death.(Original post by The runaway train)
A runaway train is approaching points on the railway line. If the points are not switched then the train will kill five people who are strapped to the line. If the points are switched the train will go along a different line and kill just one (different) person. There is no way of stopping the train; but you can switch the points so that one person, rather than five people, dies.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Doing nothing is a legitimate choice though.(Original post by vas876)
Doing nothing condemns 5 to death, where as acting condemns 1 to death.
By switching the points you are actively killing someone. By doing nothing you are letting nature/fate take its course -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Thats basically what the PMS interview was ethics in your face.(Original post by RollerBall)
I think I'd be inclined to agree, tbh. Especially with the do nothing is basically the same as disagreeing with a lot of the ethical questions you're asked about it.
I wouldn't want to try this out in an interview though, they could still end up turning around and being like yeah... But if you were forced to pick, what would you pick? Then you'd be a bit SOL if you hadn't thought about it. That, or you'd get bonus points for originality.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!(Original post by crazylemon)
Doing nothing is a legitimate choice though.
By switching the points you are actively killing someone. By doing nothing you are letting nature/fate take its course
Is there really much difference between an active choice and an inactive choice?
P.S - Doesn't allowing nature/fate take its course go in the face of medicine at all levels. I think we should just quit while were ahead lol.(Original post by The cases of Smith and Jones)
Smith sneaks into the bathroom of his 6-year-old cousin and drowns him, arranging things so that it will look like an accident. The reason Smith does this is that the death of his cousin will result in his coming into a large inheritance.
Jones stands to gain a similar large inheritance from the death of his 6-year-old cousin. Like Smith, Jones sneaks into the bathroom with the intention of drowning his cousin. The cousin, however, accidentally slips and knocks his head and drowns in the bath. Jones could easily have saved his cousin, but far from trying to save him, he stands ready to push the child’s head back under. However, this does not prove necessary.
Is there a moral difference between Smith’s and Jones’s behaviour?
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Yes, in the eyes of the law 1 is murder the other is not murder.(Original post by vas876)
Is there really much difference between an active choice and an inactive choice?
As for not wrt law it depends on the situation. In the train scenario there is no intent for me to kill 5 people I just through inaction allow them to die, I did not will their deaths. I cannot see how this is any different to not giving all excess funds to charity to prevent the death of 1000s in other countries, proximity is not an issue. In the second scenario there is an intent to kill and so this differs. -
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!(Original post by crazylemon)
At all levels? Even withdrawal of treatment?
I will stop now, avoiding working
Has the honeymoon period faded, and are you on your way to becoming a cynical medical student?
If you actually had to choose, I would kill the one person to save 5. and gladly be taken to jail for murder.(Original post by crazylemon)
Yes, in the eyes of the law 1 is murder the other is not murder.
As for not wrt law it depends on the situation. In the train scenario there is no intent for me to kill 5 people I just through inaction allow them to die, I did not will their deaths. I cannot see how this is any different to not giving all excess funds to charity to prevent the death of 1000s in other countries, proximity is not an issue. In the second scenario there is an intent to kill and so this differs.
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At all levels? Even withdrawal of treatment?
I will stop now, avoiding working
The treatment would have never been implemented in the first place, so there would be nothing to withdraw.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!This might seem a silly question but I'm doing 5ASs this year and 1 A2. If I get an A/A* in that A2, do I have to do 3 A2 subjects next year. Could I just do two, even though I get 3A2s overall or would universities mind? I really can't be asked doing extra work I don't need to next year.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!Indians(Original post by Narik)
This might seem a silly question but I'm doing 5ASs this year and 1 A2. If I get an A/A* in that A2, do I have to do 3 A2 subjects next year. Could I just do two, even though I get 3A2s overall or would universities mind? I really can't be asked doing extra work I don't need to next year.
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Re: Hyper Awesome mega thread for simple applicant questions!As long as you get 3 A2s in two years of study, they will have no issue about it.(Original post by Narik)
This might seem a silly question but I'm doing 5ASs this year and 1 A2. If I get an A/A* in that A2, do I have to do 3 A2 subjects next year. Could I just do two, even though I get 3A2s overall or would universities mind? I really can't be asked doing extra work I don't need to next year.
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