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hey guys, just been looking at some of the example UCAS achievements that people have put on this website. Just wondering if it's common for people to get 11A*'s and 3 years work experience in hospitals(how they did that at 14/15 is beyond me) or if it's only the super-students showing off? any help guys cause i feel like an idiot at the moment... :L :smile:
doctormoley
hey guys, just been looking at some of the example UCAS achievements that people have put on this website. Just wondering if it's common for people to get 11A*'s and 3 years work experience in hospitals(how they did that at 14/15 is beyond me) or if it's only the super-students showing off? any help guys cause i feel like an idiot at the moment... :L :smile:


Probably not very common. You definitely don't need GCSEs that high, or that much work experience to get offers.
doctormoley
hey guys, just been looking at some of the example UCAS achievements that people have put on this website. Just wondering if it's common for people to get 11A*'s and 3 years work experience in hospitals(how they did that at 14/15 is beyond me) or if it's only the super-students showing off? any help guys cause i feel like an idiot at the moment... :L :smile:


Obviously every little helps, but you can certainly get in with less.
greenforce
guys which is the best medical college?


:rolleyes:

Whichever one the medical student you're asking is going to most probs lol
Wata
This isn't Wata, this is his brother, he moved on in life a long time ago. I now use this account. PLease get the fcuk out of my thread if you aren't going to answer or give any positive feedback. You're boring to say the least.

and please gtfo of this forum if you're a moron. Do you seriously expect us to give you a percentage? Do you have any idea at all what the application process involves? Let alone the career itself :rolleyes:

Jessaay!
Ok, can we stop speculating for a minute and generalising.

Basically, yes GCSEs matter. But compared to a lot of people my GCSEs were abysmal and I got into UCL, even with a BMAT score below that which guaranteed interview. I had a good personal statement. AAAB at AS with the B in chemistry.

Take that as you all will.

Also, I'm afraid the whole equality across medical schools isn't as widespread as it might seem. Whilst sure, applying for some jobs, I believe F1 and F2, they are blinded to your medical school. However, past that, there is definitely bias. Why do you think they blind it in the first place?

It's hard to say which schools they're going to be biased towards... maybe the top clinical schools, or top pre clinical schools, or maybe the one the guy went to himself and so employs everyone from that school. There is definitely great variation as well in quality of pre clinical and clinical teaching across the board.

Not to sound snobby, as I'm not, but a degree from an established medical school as opposed to a new one often looks better when applying for jobs. For example, oxford or a london university vs Hull York. Assuming the candidates are equal for all other qualities. This is just prestige and subjective, but unfortunately it can be true a lot of the time and this is according to a couple of doctors, not just my own speculation.

Also, to whoever said there is no "london uni" as such, the University of London includes most colleges in London (UCL, Kings, St George's formerly Imperial and LSE). However, I think the OP was saying they'd like to go to a medical school in London and said "london uni", meaning "a london university, for example".

this argument has been done to death already and the general consensus is that even though they are able to see your med school, there are far greater factors which will decide whether you get the job or not, i.e. experience during foundation years or any research projects you've done, etc. so it's pretty stupid to apply to unis just because of prestige, unless if it really is that important to you.
gildartz
and please gtfo of this forum if you're a moron. Do you seriously expect us to give you a percentage? Do you have any idea at all what the application process involves? Let alone the career itself :rolleyes:


this argument has been done to death already and the general consensus is that even though they are able to see your med school, there are far greater factors which will decide whether you get the job or not, i.e. experience during foundation years or any research projects you've done, etc. so it's pretty stupid to apply to unis just because of prestige, unless if it really is that important to you.


I realise that, but when people say it doesn't matter at all, it does have an effect. No matter how minor or debatable that effect might be.

A lot of people are going to be fairly equal when push comes to shove in terms of jobs anyway.

But I agree, applying to unis for prestige is stupid, but to some people it is of importance. No idea why, I didn't apply because of it. Though to some universities of prestige have more appeal and they'll only be happy there. It's just incorrect to say they're all equal, as in terms of prestige in jobs they're not and quality of teaching and course does vary, even if we come out having done the exact same syllabus.
Markh1000
:rolleyes:

Whichever one the medical student you're asking is going to most probs lol

erll in general. i am engineering student. just to add upto my kind information i wanted to know.
kings ,cambridge,birmingham?
greenforce
guys which is the best medical college?


Bath. True story.
greenforce
erll in general. i am engineering student. just to add upto my kind information i wanted to know.
kings ,cambridge,birmingham?


There isn't a "best one". It depends on what you want to get out of the degree. Some unis may tend towards research, some focus more on clinical medicine. Some mix it up, but at the end of the day you're a doctor.

Of course there'ss more "prestige" associated with the likes of Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial etc... but that doesn't necessarily mean they are "better" medical schools.
Markh1000
There isn't a "best one". It depends on what you want to get out of the degree. Some unis may tend towards research, some focus more on clinical medicine. Some mix it up, but at the end of the day you're a doctor.

Of course there'ss more "prestige" associated with the likes of Oxbridge, UCL, Imperial etc... but that doesn't necessarily mean they are "better" medical schools.



ahan. how much doctors apporximately earn after graduating?
do doctors get same wage after graduating from Oxbridge, UCL, or imperial
Mushi_master
Bath. True story.


thanks.
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Jessaay!
Ok, can we stop speculating for a minute and generalising.

Basically, yes GCSEs matter. But compared to a lot of people my GCSEs were abysmal and I got into UCL, even with a BMAT score below that which guaranteed interview. I had a good personal statement. AAAB at AS with the B in chemistry.

Take that as you all will.

Also, I'm afraid the whole equality across medical schools isn't as widespread as it might seem. Whilst sure, applying for some jobs, I believe F1 and F2, they are blinded to your medical school. However, past that, there is definitely bias. Why do you think they blind it in the first place?

It's hard to say which schools they're going to be biased towards... maybe the top clinical schools, or top pre clinical schools, or maybe the one the guy went to himself and so employs everyone from that school. There is definitely great variation as well in quality of pre clinical and clinical teaching across the board.

Not to sound snobby, as I'm not, but a degree from an established medical school as opposed to a new one often looks better when applying for jobs. For example, oxford or a london university vs Hull York. Assuming the candidates are equal for all other qualities. This is just prestige and subjective, but unfortunately it can be true a lot of the time and this is according to a couple of doctors, not just my own speculation.

Also, to whoever said there is no "london uni" as such, the University of London includes most colleges in London (UCL, Kings, St George's formerly Imperial and LSE). However, I think the OP was saying they'd like to go to a medical school in London and said "london uni", meaning "a london university, for example".

Do i have a good chance of getting into UCL then with 7 A's n 3 B's at GCSE and predicted AAA at A-Level, i think i got AABB at AS-Level, I done the conventional 3 sciences and history as my contrasting AS subject. Also does doing voluntary work abroad in an impoverished country in a hospital make a lot of difference as opposed to working in a hospital in the uk? Would it really make a huge difference and make ur ps really stand out? Thanks.
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greenforce
ahan. how much doctors apporximately earn after graduating?
do doctors get same wage after graduating from Oxbridge, UCL, or imperial

i heard it was £30,000 but i may be wrong
greenforce
ahan. how much doctors apporximately earn after graduating?
do doctors get same wage after graduating from Oxbridge, UCL, or imperial


http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=553

I would assume so, yes. (Exculding potential london allowance of course).
A medical school is a medical school. No labels attached.
sc0307
i heard it was £30,000 but i may be wrong


i heard that working with nhs gets you more money and its after 10 years of work ...+ private practice.(but gov licensing is a headache?)
Markh1000
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=553

I would assume so, yes. (Exculding potential london allowance of course).

thanks for the link . its very helpfull
btw after graduating are we a specialist or we have to further our studies???
what has to be done to become a consultant???
*'actually asking all this for my younger brother.'
Jessaay!

Also, I'm afraid the whole equality across medical schools isn't as widespread as it might seem. Whilst sure, applying for some jobs, I believe F1 and F2, they are blinded to your medical school. However, past that, there is definitely bias. Why do you think they blind it in the first place?

It's hard to say which schools they're going to be biased towards... maybe the top clinical schools, or top pre clinical schools, or maybe the one the guy went to himself and so employs everyone from that school. There is definitely great variation as well in quality of pre clinical and clinical teaching across the board.

Not to sound snobby, as I'm not, but a degree from an established medical school as opposed to a new one often looks better when applying for jobs. For example, oxford or a london university vs Hull York. Assuming the candidates are equal for all other qualities. This is just prestige and subjective, but unfortunately it can be true a lot of the time and this is according to a couple of doctors, not just my own speculation.


This.

Applications are blinded for the first two years but aren't afterwards. There's bound to be bias of some sort - thats why their even blinded for the first two years because they know bias exists!
PE is fine.

I know a guy who did Bio, Chem and PE to A2 (with Maths at AS) and he has just finished his first year at Manchester. So long as you have Bio/Chem to A2, you're fine on the subjects front.
Craydot
what did you get in your GCSEs


I got 5As, 4Bs and 2Cs. Nothing too special.

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