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Reply 980
MerryMilkMan
I just relized we got off on a tangent about the french and I only got one ansewr to my questune :frown:
any one care to elabrate?
What about smaller social groups besides the chavs?
Let's see....what was the question again? Uh...

MerryMilkMan
What are some of the stereotypes over there about Americans, English, Scotish, Irirish, and of the British from others in the U.K (if you want you could even throw in some localities like Glaslow and Edinborough ).
Note: Anything I say here is likely to offend narrow-minded people. Do not take anything here too seriously...
Stereotype of Americans is pretty classic - dim-witted, loud-mouthed and not afraid to speak their mind. A country full of Homer Simpsons, in other words :rolleyes:
English...in one word, bastards :biggrin: Scots do not like the English, plain and simple. Obviously I can set aside my dislike for them as a whole to appreciate that some of the ones I meet are actually really nice people (Icecradle being one of them). Fly the flag of St George at your own peril :p:
Scottish...the greatest people in the world :p: Nah, we all know the BS stereotype - that we're loud-mouthed, aggressive drunks who go around in kilts all the time. That stereotype isn't true at all, unless you're from Glasgow (where you meet all the criteria except for wearing a kilt) :biggrin: If you're from Aberdeen you've got something in common with the Welsh - it's stereotyped that they're a bunch of sheep shaggers :rofl:
You've got to love the Irish. The stereotype is that they're fun-loving people dancing with leprechauns while downing pints of Guinness (OK, maybe I made some of that up, but whatever)...I've never met an Irishman I haven't liked, and I hope it stays that way :biggrin:
The Welsh shag sheep. Simple. :rolleyes:

MerryMilkMan
What about different sub groups with in British society?
First off, the chavs. They're a bunch of wannabe thugs who think that hanging around in large groups wearing hoodies, downing bottles of vodka and randomly vandalising things makes them look hard. Many adults fear them, everybody hates them.
Next, the toffs. Stuck so far up their own posh arses that they're completely self-centred. Everyone tends to think that they're snobby, so nobody really likes them much, either.
Goths...nobody really understands them, and nobody cares to try. We just avoid them like the plague.
And you can't forget the emos. They spend so much time wallowing in their own self-pity and feigned depression that everyone hates them almost as much as they hate chavs.
There are obviously other 'social groups', but there are a few of the basic ones :biggrin:
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the farmer boys, and ettes, bit of a sort of toff, but comes in two varietys, rich old money and rich new money, get tractors bought for them for the birthdays, have wide spanning families with money, wear jean, belts and a checked shirt [the guys] drink alot and have sort of, equally socible, can hold their own, yet "will make the perfect house wife" girlfriends.

toffs and yahs, i would say a toff is old money yah new money ish, what i mean is i see toffs as aristocrats in the past. go to private school.

nerds/brains/books, i wud not say they are social out casts, but shy, and lots of ppl are mean to them, which annoys me, i can prob describe the lad steroetype, wears clothes that include alot of grey, trousers a bit too long/short, and rarely jean, black trainers, or shoes, and never look you in the eye, go pink when you talk to them and dont say much until you get them into convos where they get VERY animated.

but chavvage has to be seen to be believed, check ot goldy looking chain

but you will find that if you ask sum1 which group they fall into, most ppl can't do it, me for example, my friends are "farmer" stereotypes, yet i tag along.
Dalimyr
Let's see....what was the question again? Uh...

Note: Anything I say here is likely to offend narrow-minded people. Do not take anything here too seriously...
Stereotype of Americans is pretty classic - dim-witted, loud-mouthed and not afraid to speak their mind. A country full of Homer Simpsons, in other words :rolleyes:
English...in one word, bastards :biggrin: Scots do not like the English, plain and simple. Obviously I can set aside my dislike for them as a whole to appreciate that some of the ones I meet are actually really nice people (Icecradle being one of them). Fly the flag of St George at your own peril :p:
Scottish...the greatest people in the world :p: Nah, we all know the BS stereotype - that we're loud-mouthed, aggressive drunks who go around in kilts all the time. That stereotype isn't true at all, unless you're from Glasgow (where you meet all the criteria except for wearing a kilt) :biggrin: If you're from Aberdeen you've got something in common with the Welsh - it's stereotyped that they're a bunch of sheep shaggers :rofl:
You've got to love the Irish. The stereotype is that they're fun-loving people dancing with leprechauns while downing pints of Guinness (OK, maybe I made some of that up, but whatever)...I've never met an Irishman I haven't liked, and I hope it stays that way :biggrin:
The Welsh shag sheep. Simple. :rolleyes:

First off, the chavs. They're a bunch of wannabe thugs who think that hanging around in large groups wearing hoodies, downing bottles of vodka and randomly vandalising things makes them look hard. Many adults fear them, everybody hates them.
Next, the toffs. Stuck so far up their own posh arses that they're completely self-centred. Everyone tends to think that they're snobby, so nobody really likes them much, either.
Goths...nobody really understands them, and nobody cares to try. We just avoid them like the plague.
And you can't forget the emos. They spend so much time wallowing in their own self-pity and feigned depression that everyone hates them almost as much as they hate chavs.
There are obviously other 'social groups', but there are a few of the basic ones :biggrin:


So who do the scots hate the most? English, Americans, or the French
(their historical allies so maybe not at all)

Its funny your Scottish stereotypy is the one we prescribe to the Irish in the U.S. To most Americans all Scots are like William Wallace in brave heart

(by the way I am loving these posts thanks guys … and am surprised no one has freaked out and taken offense yet)
I could rant about chavs all day, and i'm not even emo...
Reply 984
MerryMilkMan
So who do the scots hate the most? English, Americans, or the French
(their historical allies so maybe not at all)The English, probably...we don't like Americans, but it's too easy to take the likes of George Bush and mock them :rofl:
The English don't like the French, but the Scots don't mind them too much (the auld alliance and all that)

Its funny your Scottish stereotypy is the one we prescribe to the Irish in the U.S. To must Americans all Scots are like William Wallace in brave heart
The Irish are loud-mouthed drunks wearing kilts??? :p:

I could rant about chavs all day, and i'm not even emo...
:rofl: Aww, it's a shame I've already given out my rep today, 'cause I liked that one :biggrin:
Dalimyr


The Irish are loud-mouthed drunks wearing kilts??? :p:

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- the kilt part
I don't know if you have this saying in the U.K. but the slogan for some of our teams ect. here is the fighting Irish
and its a little leprecon getting in a fight :P

(just figgerd I'd let you know I am talking to you guys imbtween photagraphing human skulls that I put on stands :smile: for some reason I think thats worth mentioning)

Are their many goths there?

What groups are the homophobic/racits ones?
Were do the diffrent groups fall politicaly?
St Andrews, at least from what I can see from the socities booklet and just from knowledge seems to have a large amount of conservative students....Or is that just an illusion?
Reply 987
MerryMilkMan
Are their many goths there?
There are a few...there's no goth society, though, so I hear that a lot of them join the RockSoc, which is the next best thing for them :wtf?:

MerryMilkMan
What groups are the homophobic/racits ones?
Were do the diffrent groups fall politicaly?
Where do they fall politically? All over the place...except for chavs, who don't give a damn about politics.
Chavs are also very narrow-minded, so they're the most likely to be homophobic and/or racist. I'll put it simply - stay the **** away from chavs unless you've got (or want) a criminal record and want to kill your brain cells by drinking and smoking excessively.
Dalimyr
There are a few...there's no goth society, though, so I hear that a lot of them join the RockSoc, which is the next best thing for them :wtf?:


Whats RockSoc?

Dalimyr

Where do they fall politically? All over the place...except for chavs, who don't give a damn about politics.
Chavs are also very narrow-minded, so they're the most likely to be homophobic and/or racist. I'll put it simply - stay the **** away from chavs unless you've got (or want) a criminal record and want to kill your brain cells by drinking and smoking excessively.


WOW that is so weird ... In the U.S. evry social group has a political party they support, like goths, punks,hippies and nerdy/smart kids are almost allways libral but preps, rich kids, frat kids, the bible club, and drunkerds/party kids are almost allways conservative
And the geto kids don't care ... or fall on either side

Dalimyr is that your a real pic of you or a modle or something? If it is a pic of you its a dam good one.
Reply 989
MerryMilkMan


WOW that is so weird ... In the U.S. evry social group has a political party they support, like goths, punks,hippies and nerdy/smart kids are almost allways libral but preps, rich kids, frat kids, the bible club, and drunkerds/party kids are almost allways conservative
And the geto kids don't care ... or fall on either side

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Is that so? :confused: Most people here just don't care. Young people prefer to vote in single issues rather than a specific party because they don't think that there is any party which they can agree completely with.

Do everybody in the UK and the states have a party which they stick to in sickness and in health?:rolleyes:
Reply 990
MerryMilkMan
Whats RockSoc?
RockSoc = Rock Society...a group of people who really like rock music, in other words

Dalimyr is that your a real pic of you or a modle or something? If it is a pic of you its a dam good one.
No, it's not me - it's a picture of Dido, a singer from London.
Ankan

Do everybody in the UK and the states have a party which they stick to in sickness and in health?:rolleyes:


Well evry one will tell you that they don't agree with evrything a party says but here for most of the population it would take a lot to get you to vote for a canidate that is out of the pary your group supports. Its not so much that people like their own party just that they hate the other (bush however has pushed this life or death thing to the limmits with conservatives though they still havn't really changed their voting habbits even thought his aproval is down among them) But it really is a stick to it through sicckeness and health thing here.
Reply 992
Ankan
Do everybody in the UK and the states have a party which they stick to in sickness and in health?:rolleyes:
I don't...but that's because I'm like the chavs in this respect - I don't give a damn about politics.
Reply 993
Two weeks ago Skeve posted something in another thread that left me in a slightly awkward position. Although he edited his post upon my request, I know some people saw his post before the edit (Ankan was the only one to post about it, though others may have seen it and kept quiet)...I said that I'd clear up the confusion caused, but wouldn't do it until I was ready. Since I won't be around next year, there's no real point in leaving it, so I'll make the post either tomorrow or Friday. I would do it today now that I've remembered, but I'm too busy watching the football right now :rolleyes: I might do it tomorrow, but I'm away at a funeral and don't know when I'll be back (there might be a bit of socialising, since it'll be the first time I'll have seen some of my relatives in about five or six years, and in some cases the first time I'll have ever met them). I'll certainly do it by Friday, though.
Reply 994
But it really is a stick to it through sicckeness and health thing here.


Wow, this is funny. I heard just the other day that the first time voters here often don't decide which party to vote for until they leave their vote..:p:

Dalimyr what is this about not being around next year?:frown: What do you mean? Yeah, I remember that post but you can do as you wish, you don't have to tell us.
:confused:
Reply 996
Ankan
Dalimyr what is this about not being around next year?:frown: What do you mean?
I didn't pass my degree course, so I'm dropping out.

Yeah, I remember that post but you can do as you wish, you don't have to tell us.
I know I don't have to...
what is thought of american girls? (I am really sorry you can't be coming back:frown: I was hoping to say hi)
Reply 998
Dalimyr

And you can't forget the emos...


Oh i thought i'd escape the emos by moving 3,200 miles away. they're everywhere! :p:
Reply 999
ahem.. I'm only half English. My Mum is, in fact, from Edinburgh.

I was kinda surprised to see 'farmer' stereotype put down as rich. O.o I live in a farming area (rural hampshire) and most of the farmers here are struggling to keep out of debt. Especially as agricultural land keeps getting changed into residential... and it's so expensive to dairy farm, it's unbelievable!. Anyways...

A new stereotype is the nuevo-geek. Into anime and manga in a big way, likes japanese and cult classic music, plays video/computer/online games constantly, dresses in black with obscure band/game t-shirts, studies computer science, physics or maths, likely to be seen more online rather than in real life but generally are really awesome people, just a little shy.

The homophobic/racist groups are either the chavs.. or the thug types. The thugs tend to follow football obsessively, have shaved heads, drinks a lot of lager, are loud and aggressive and vote BNP. (British National Party)

Political groups aren't as clear cut in the UK. If anything I'd say that the area where you live is the greatest contributing factor.

These stereotypes never really work though, for example I'm a bit of a geek from a rural area, I'm religious but don't go to CU, I go to rocksoc occassionally, I went to a state comprehensive school, but vote conservative... it's all a bit mixed up really.

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