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GOVP4A - Government of the USA AQA 16th June

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Reply 20
I was really happy with this paper. I did the executive and the supreme court (nearly did the constitution but I thought the question was a bit boring), but my supreme court essay was quite different from the one above; I started out by talking about the historic role of the courts (Warren and Burger particularly) in protecting rights and liberties, then I talked about recent examples but also how they have recently been more reserved, then I talked about the restraints on the court and finished up by saying that what they can protect is limited to what they can interpret the constitution as saying. I was less happy with Monday's paper, though, because I think I should have done different questions :/
Reply 21
Original post by lacheveche
I was really happy with this paper. I did the executive and the supreme court (nearly did the constitution but I thought the question was a bit boring), but my supreme court essay was quite different from the one above; I started out by talking about the historic role of the courts (Warren and Burger particularly) in protecting rights and liberties, then I talked about recent examples but also how they have recently been more reserved, then I talked about the restraints on the court and finished up by saying that what they can protect is limited to what they can interpret the constitution as saying. I was less happy with Monday's paper, though, because I think I should have done different questions :/



I would have done it your way. A lot about civil rights and liberties is related to the more liberal Warren and Burger Courts, but cases like Lee v Weisman, Texas v Johnson, DC v Heller, Macdonald v Chicago are modern examples. They're failing to protect rights in Gonzales v Carhart though.
Original post by PJMillar
What did you mention? This was how I structured mine...

Intro - explaining Supreme Court's constitutional authority to protect rights/liberties, from Bill of Rights, as Founding Fathers wanted to hold an overweening executive accountable

para 1 - rights of racial minorities - Brown v Board of Education (54), de jour segregation, then even more liberal from Burger court when in 71 de facto segregation was made illegal

para 2 - freedom of religion - more evidence that the Supreme Court has played a big role in protecting rights & liberties - however I mentioned that Wallace v Jaffree (85) went too far and compromised 1st Amendment (freedom of speech)

para 3 - gun control - that strict constructionalists (Rehnquvist and Roberts) have protected the right to bear arms - mentioned however that the Constitution is ambiguous..more liberal justices interpret it as only applying for the militia

para 4 - abortion - most striking evidence that in recent years rights and liberties are being less protected, i.e. the repeal of Roe v Wade (1973) - supported by recent court decisions on 'unreasonable searches'

Conclusion - that rights and liberties have been protected well by liberal justices (Warren and Burger) but less well by conservative ones...

P.S. How did you do yours, and what did you say for the 10 mark question on Supreme Court??


That looks good, my friend said he did it like you.
My paragraphs were:

Power of judicial review to strike federal law as unconstitutional if it breaches citizens rights e.g. Rasul v Bush

Power of interpretation to create new rights e.g. Roe v Wade interpretation of 9th ammendment

The court is retrained by its make-up e.g. loose v strict constructionists, liberal v conservative. Conservative judges sided with the president in Rasul v Bush.

The court is restrained in upholding rights because it cannot enforce its ruling e.g. desegregation in Brown v Board, and is also restrained as it must wait for a law to come before it e.g. War Powers Act

Concluded that the court is powerful in upholding rights compared to other nations but is still limited.

Original post by PJMillar
Well, it depends on the grade boundaries...the raw marks will inflate depending on the performance in the country as a whole...

Here, check out last June's for Government & Politics...grade boundaries were very low...

http://web.aqa.org.uk/UMS/ums_converter_a2.php?id=04


Ooooh, I think I get it now. So if this paper was especially hard/easy then the amount of UMS you get will change depending on it?
Original post by PJMillar
Well, it depends on the grade boundaries...the raw marks will inflate depending on the performance in the country as a whole...

Here, check out last June's for Government & Politics...grade boundaries were very low...

http://web.aqa.org.uk/UMS/ums_converter_a2.php?id=04


I know this is off topic but did you know where I can find the same thing for Edexcel? (for History)
Reply 24
Original post by James Snowdon
I know this is off topic but did you know where I can find the same thing for Edexcel? (for History)


Edexcel don't have one I think. They're incredibly unhelpful. TSR provide their own calculator though.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=50984&d=1208000475

For the paper last Friday for a raw mark E you want 24/70, for a raw mark A you need 52/70 and work out how much you need on that Excel file. I have the question grade boundaries in front of me. (I think we did the same paper, but different syllabuses).

Also off topic, but good choice with Sheffield Uni!
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did anyone do congress and the constitution??
Reply 26
Original post by sliceofbrice
did anyone do congress and the constitution??


Yes. I thought it was OK actually.
Original post by Teh User
Yes. I thought it was OK actually.


what did you write?
Reply 28
Original post by sliceofbrice
what did you write?


Constitution Q1: Amendments made using 3/4 states and 2/3rds majority in both chambers of congress. 10,000 proposed amendments, only 27 ever passed. State ratification hard to complete, more suited to when it was a 13 state union while a 2/3rds majority for legislation is a rarity at the best of times, for an amendment it's nearly non existant. Only one Amendment ever repealed and one (Equal Rights Amendment) nearly got enough states to be included. Last amendment ratified in the early 1990s showing how few and far between they are.

Constitution Q2: Separation of powers good because it stops any side having too much power etc, uses the system of checks and balances with various examples. Separation of powers bad however as it enables divided, gridlocked government and empowers some unelected bodies (Supreme Court) or an imperial President over a Congress representative of the people. Overall separation of powers is good though.

Congress Q1: Advice and consent used in appointment process for senior govt positions e.g Cabinet, SC justices and ratification of treaties. 2/3 majority needed for latter. Significance is that it shares power with the President to stop politically motivated appointments (e.g Robert Bork) and ensure treaties are in the best interest of the USA (SALT II) but has been used to frustrate the President on occasions (SALT II, Treaty of Versailles, William Weld).

Congress Q2: Parties important in tight votes, however a partisan vote is much less likely than the UK as there is no internal system of promotion without leaving the legislature, this is due to the separation of powers. Other influences such as pork barrelling, public opinion from constituents, personal beliefs also taken into account. Examples of non party unity include Mass. Sen. Scott Brown (R) siding with the Democrats on key issues to keep in favour of the electorate that elected him into the late Ted Kennedy's seat, Blue Dog Democrats and the rebellion over the healthcare reform vote in the house but complete partisanship in the Senate. Pork barrelling seen with Senator Max Baucus (Dem-Montana) securing concessions for people living near a sulphur mine in his state on the healthcare reform bill and Senator Bernie Sanders (Ind-Vermont) securing extra Medicaid funding on the same bill. Conclusion parties important especially with the rise of the Tea Party Movement threatening to split the Republican Party, but other factors often take prominence instead of party unity.

Very condensed but the thin arguments are there.
Reply 29
i'm really worried now i did the question on the supreme court, but i thought the wording was really unusual and didn't really understand what it was asking.. all though i put alot of cases i mainly spoke about judicial restraint and activsim.. is that wrong?
Hi guys i was wondering on what you wrote for the judicial independence question, and that on the advice and consent power i did not talk about ratification of treaties.
Reply 31
I did Supreme Court and Executive, mainly because of how easy the 30 markers looked but the 10 markers were shabby as.

For Executive 10 marker: I blabbed about Adjudication, Creating rules and implementing laws. Knowledge was proper limited. I went on about executive agencies, departments, IRC and government corporations and in the last paragraph I basically brought in a 'debate' about them concerning the iron triangle. It was very messy so I'm hoping for like 6 marks or something.

Executive 30 marker was amazing: Just did all president's powers and showed how he used them like Presidential veto brought in Bush's S-CHIP veto in 2007 etc. I'm hoping for very high in this as I can't see how I could've made it better. Hoping for like 27 so it'd roughly be a low A but banking on low boundaries so it might be higher (I need 87% for an A though an A isn't a MUST I just wanna get as high as possible).
Btw how ridiculous was the statement 'President only has the power to persuade'. I wanna know who has said that, it's so ludicrous it's not even seriously debatable. I digress.

Supreme Court 10 marker: absolutely crap. Judicial independence? It was just so crapply worded. In the first para I went on about the picking of the ultra Conservative Thomas (I think i mentioned the Q ABA rating but can't remember) and basically said how in this case it was politicised therefore not independent. In the case of independent I said Eisenhower appointed a judge who was one of the most liberal ever (Warren) so I said this WAS independent because despite his president he was still proper liberal. I've literally never used that example before I dunno what came over me. I put in loads of knowledge so hoping for around the same 6/7ish.

Supreme Court 30 marker: This was pretty easy reckon though it got ridiculously monotonous. It literally came to a point where I was naming cases and ending the paragraph with 'this DID protect citizen's rights because' or 'this didn't because...' like I did 5 cases intially which did then 5 cases which didn't and ended on Romer v Evans protecting gay rights. Put **** loads of examples so hoping for around 26/27 and hopefully low grade boundaries will see me through.

Apologies for the long post!
why doesnt anyone else on here do the same units as me!!! Lol I did gov3b and 4b today
Reply 33
Original post by Omiclops
I did Supreme Court and Executive, mainly because of how easy the 30 markers looked but the 10 markers were shabby as.

For Executive 10 marker: I blabbed about Adjudication, Creating rules and implementing laws. Knowledge was proper limited. I went on about executive agencies, departments, IRC and government corporations and in the last paragraph I basically brought in a 'debate' about them concerning the iron triangle. It was very messy so I'm hoping for like 6 marks or something.

Executive 30 marker was amazing: Just did all president's powers and showed how he used them like Presidential veto brought in Bush's S-CHIP veto in 2007 etc. I'm hoping for very high in this as I can't see how I could've made it better. Hoping for like 27 so it'd roughly be a low A but banking on low boundaries so it might be higher (I need 87% for an A though an A isn't a MUST I just wanna get as high as possible).
Btw how ridiculous was the statement 'President only has the power to persuade'. I wanna know who has said that, it's so ludicrous it's not even seriously debatable. I digress.

Supreme Court 10 marker: absolutely crap. Judicial independence? It was just so crapply worded. In the first para I went on about the picking of the ultra Conservative Thomas (I think i mentioned the Q ABA rating but can't remember) and basically said how in this case it was politicised therefore not independent. In the case of independent I said Eisenhower appointed a judge who was one of the most liberal ever (Warren) so I said this WAS independent because despite his president he was still proper liberal. I've literally never used that example before I dunno what came over me. I put in loads of knowledge so hoping for around the same 6/7ish.

Supreme Court 30 marker: This was pretty easy reckon though it got ridiculously monotonous. It literally came to a point where I was naming cases and ending the paragraph with 'this DID protect citizen's rights because' or 'this didn't because...' like I did 5 cases intially which did then 5 cases which didn't and ended on Romer v Evans protecting gay rights. Put **** loads of examples so hoping for around 26/27 and hopefully low grade boundaries will see me through.

Apologies for the long post!


Hey, i also did the executive question but fluffed the 10 marker and basically ran out of time for the 30 :/ i got the main points in but they were rushed and only had time for a three line conclusion. I did do better on the first constitution question, but the good news is that i only need 35/100 UMS for an A- im just worried that the rushed nature and missing details have messed it up :/
does anyone know how easy it actually is to get a U (35/100)? is just any relevent rubbish sufficent? if so i can stop worrying!
Reply 34
Original post by Joe10

Original post by Joe10
Hey, i also did the executive question but fluffed the 10 marker and basically ran out of time for the 30 :/ i got the main points in but they were rushed and only had time for a three line conclusion. I did do better on the first constitution question, but the good news is that i only need 35/100 UMS for an A- im just worried that the rushed nature and missing details have messed it up :/
does anyone know how easy it actually is to get a U (35/100)? is just any relevent rubbish sufficent? if so i can stop worrying!


Very easy :P You'll have done way better than a U though! I thought I'd done TERRIBLY last year at AS, didn't finish the last 5 marker etc, thought I was gna get at most an E but got 100 UMS! You'll have done great even if you don't think you have!
Reply 35
Original post by Bobbler
Very easy :P You'll have done way better than a U though! I thought I'd done TERRIBLY last year at AS, didn't finish the last 5 marker etc, thought I was gna get at most an E but got 100 UMS! You'll have done great even if you don't think you have!


I thought the same, but thanks to the epicness of our Politics teacher and multi level governance I also got 100 UMS! I'm more worried about my History grade to be honest. Stupid History coursework making me unsure.

I must have got over 67 on GOVP2 out of 80.

http://web.aqa.org.uk/UMS/ums_converter_as.php?id=04
Reply 36
Original post by Bobsyourteapots

Original post by Bobsyourteapots
why doesnt anyone else on here do the same units as me!!! Lol I did gov3b and 4b today


i did 3b and 4b too ! For 3b id socialism and Fascism that paper wuz good ,in 4B i did ethnicity and gender and environment . the gender bit had ntn about feminism which pissed me off and the environment question seemed ok .

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