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MSc Finance Cass vs Warwick - and Why?

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Reply 20
Hi everyone!

I'm an Indonesian student and am completely confused to choose between the two.
(Indonesia is in South East Asia...just in case you don't know..lol..)
Applied to Warwick, Cass, LSE, HEC Paris, Melbourne Business School, ANU (Australian National University) for MSc Finance program.
Rejected by LSE,
Accepted by Warwick, Cass, MelU and ANU.
Haven't got any news from HEC Paris.
Definitely pick Warwick and Cass over the Australian universities.

But stuck between Warwick and Cass.
My main concern is job opportunities in UK.

Please help me!!=)

Oh, and talwarvarun, I'm also a fresh graduate.
You'll never know if you don't give it a shot.
So, just go for it!
Reply 21
hey shallen... im also accepted to the finance course @ warwick
Reply 22
Hi jeremy777,

Well then, see you in a couple months, probably.
I'm still in doubts here about warwick and cass.
Are you gonna choose warwick or do you have other options?
How are u gonna make the choice?
Reply 23
hey shallen and jeremy777,

im still waiting to hear back from warwick, how long did they take to get back to you after youd applied? ive got offers from cass, bristol, nottingham, rejected by lse, waiting to hear back from imperial and warwick. my rank would be lse, imperial, then id put warwick and cass at same level, then bristol and nottingham. so if im fortunate enough to get into imperial ill go there, but if not then ill have the same dilemma as you - between warwick and cass. if rej;d by warwick then its cass for me.

out of interest whats your backgrounds, do you have firsts/really high GPAs? i got a 2.1, in econ from cambridge....wasnt good enough for lse, damn them, lol. good luck .
Reply 24
hey trachea,

from cambridge?and it's not good enough for them..
their loss, .lol..
warwick replied after 9 weeks or so..
cass gave me a fast reply, probably a month..
my gpa was 3.72 out of 4..

yeah, good luck to us.
Reply 25
Hi shallen & trachea,

yeah i got an offer from manchester also... I've made a decision to go to warwick already. Did not apply to Cass at all... I understand people will have their own opinions on both warwick and Cass but i just feel that warwick provides a better balance of university reputation, tuition fees as well as living expenses.

trachea, yeah it took warwick close to 2 months to get back to me as well. ahh... as for the requirements.. I guess a 2:1 from cambridge should be good enough....

Cheers!
Reply 26
Hi jeremy,

well, it's look like we will meet in a couple months.
I made my decision.
cheers!
Reply 27
Hi

I'm currently doing the MSc in Finance at Warwick. I really reccomend the course. Not sure how it compares to others, as I am not on the other courses, but I chose it over Imperial and Cass when accepting my offers.

What I reccomend about the course:
1. Really good lecturers who are contributing to the most advanced finance/econometric applied/theoretical research [such as copulas (tail dependencein the FXmarket), cointegration (moving towards solving the forward premium puzzle), quantile regressions (analysing CDS spreads). Most the lecturers have great previous experiences as well such as Quant trading, hedge funds, consultants to IBs such as CS, DB, and worked at Bank of England etc. You learn these things in the course and they are great at interviews - a lot of people in the city are not aware of them.

2. Offers a Behavioural Finance course which most other courses don't. Really interesting and offers solutions to why market efficiency might not hold due to market sentiment and noise trader risk etc..

3. You get to do a dissertation. This didn't play a big part in my choice, but I am really glad I am doing one now. Gives you a great chance to apply what you have learned and be innovative. Every year a few of the dissertations are published.

4. The university and WBS are heavily targetted by every IB and asset manager and we got a full day workshop (from someone who was HR at Mercer) on how to apply to the big IBs and what they look for, mock interviews, group work etc - really useful.

5. As part of the course you will learn how to use Matlab, SPlus, R, etc. Really valuable skills to have and employers really like people with these software skills.

6. Really good atmoshere. Have a program office that just looks after the MSc Fin, Fin & Eco, Fin Math, and they get to know your names and are really helpful. Also get a "free" FT every day. Lecturers are also really approachable and friendly.

Bad points:
1. The University of Warwick is in Coventry which isn't my favourite place in the world. Can live in Leamington Spa which is nice but the bus service to and from campus in awful. It is only one year, and when paying so much I focussed on the course.

2. Too much group work in my opinion.

3. Coursework/projects take forever and are not weighted high enough.

4. It is a very intensive year. I live with 3rd year undergrads and it is a bit upsetting at times how much more work than them I have to do. First term is a killer -you are covering the foundations for the much more interesting 2nd term where you get to specialise in what you are most interested in - just a vast volume of the more boring content. Sure this is the same everywhere though.

5. Not expensive as others, but still very expensive. If you think about it in terms of life time earnings it is, in my opinion, a worthwhile investment. Go for a WBS Scholarship ~£5k off the fee makes it a lot more managable!

Hope this helps

x
Reply 28
Hi Nrwf500

thanks for the great input, that was a detailfull list of ad and disadvantages of the msc finance course.
I have couple of queries though, i dont if u can answer them.

I have received an offer from msc financial mathematics program,
what do you know about that program?
do you have some modules with them?
you have listed lots of mathematical software, will the finmath students learn these softwares as well?
do you have trading / dealing rooms in wbs like ICMA in reading?
how are the proportion of domesting and foreign students in your program and in math finance?
what do you think is the reason for immense domination of foreign students in msc programs wbs?

i hope you can help me with these q:s
sorry for spelling mistakes, its late :smile:
Reply 29
nrwf500
Hi

I'm currently doing the MSc in Finance at Warwick. I really reccomend the course. Not sure how it compares to others, as I am not on the other courses, but I chose it over Imperial and Cass when accepting my offers.

What I reccomend about the course:
1. Really good lecturers who are contributing to the most advanced finance/econometric applied/theoretical research [such as copulas (tail dependencein the FXmarket), cointegration (moving towards solving the forward premium puzzle), quantile regressions (analysing CDS spreads). Most the lecturers have great previous experiences as well such as Quant trading, hedge funds, consultants to IBs such as CS, DB, and worked at Bank of England etc. You learn these things in the course and they are great at interviews - a lot of people in the city are not aware of them.

2. Offers a Behavioural Finance course which most other courses don't. Really interesting and offers solutions to why market efficiency might not hold due to market sentiment and noise trader risk etc..

3. You get to do a dissertation. This didn't play a big part in my choice, but I am really glad I am doing one now. Gives you a great chance to apply what you have learned and be innovative. Every year a few of the dissertations are published.

4. The university and WBS are heavily targetted by every IB and asset manager and we got a full day workshop (from someone who was HR at Mercer) on how to apply to the big IBs and what they look for, mock interviews, group work etc - really useful.

5. As part of the course you will learn how to use Matlab, SPlus, R, etc. Really valuable skills to have and employers really like people with these software skills.

6. Really good atmoshere. Have a program office that just looks after the MSc Fin, Fin & Eco, Fin Math, and they get to know your names and are really helpful. Also get a "free" FT every day. Lecturers are also really approachable and friendly.

Bad points:
1. The University of Warwick is in Coventry which isn't my favourite place in the world. Can live in Leamington Spa which is nice but the bus service to and from campus in awful. It is only one year, and when paying so much I focussed on the course.

2. Too much group work in my opinion.

3. Coursework/projects take forever and are not weighted high enough.

4. It is a very intensive year. I live with 3rd year undergrads and it is a bit upsetting at times how much more work than them I have to do. First term is a killer -you are covering the foundations for the much more interesting 2nd term where you get to specialise in what you are most interested in - just a vast volume of the more boring content. Sure this is the same everywhere though.

5. Not expensive as others, but still very expensive. If you think about it in terms of life time earnings it is, in my opinion, a worthwhile investment. Go for a WBS Scholarship ~£5k off the fee makes it a lot more managable!

Hope this helps

x


Hi Nrwf500

thanks for the great input, that was a detailfull list of ad and disadvantages of the msc finance course.
I have couple of queries though, i dont if u can answer them.

I have received an offer from msc financial mathematics program,
what do you know about that program?
do you have some modules with them?
you have listed lots of mathematical software, will the finmath students learn these softwares as well?
do you have trading / dealing rooms in wbs like ICMA in reading?
how are the proportion of domesting and foreign students in your program and in math finance?
what do you think is the reason for immense domination of foreign students in msc programs wbs?

i hope you can help me with these q:s
sorry for spelling mistakes, its late :smile:
Reply 30
The MSc Fin Math course is very good and the students are the most targetted, but for more specific research and quant jobs. THe MFin and MFin&Eco students do not do any modules with them, we do loads of advanced econocmetrics but I think their content is the next step up and actually programming such models. I do know that they learn programming languages such as C++ and use more advanced software than we do (MFin/FinEco use VBA, SPlus, Matlab, R, Bloomberg, Reuters). If you want to go into the more general front office jobs I think the MFin and MFin&Eco probably have the edge, but I'm probably biased...

Not sure about the course at Reading at all. We don't have a trading room but we do have Bloomberg and Reuters terminals. I didn't consider it and know nothing about the course at Reading - it missed my radar. I applied to Cam, LSE, Warwick, Imperial, Durham, York.

There are aprox 100 people on the MSc Fin course and (only!) 4 British students. Don't think there are any British on the MFinMath out of about 25 students. However, loads of Europeans and people from Asia. As to the reason, I think British students on the whole are less thirsty for more education (our schooling system tends to do that), don't need to do a masters to go to front office jobs (I'm doing the course because I really want to do it and fear if I don't do it before I start working I'll probably never do it) and foreign students see going to a targetted UK university as a route into a job in London.

Hope that helps,

Nick
Reply 31
Thanks for you advice

I applied to the MSc Finance but got rejected because I had no economics content in my degree.

If you get the MSc Finance and your british then you have a great chance of getting a job. From what I understand investment banks in london only take on people who have the right to work in the UK and will not sponser anybody.

I've been accepted on the Post graduate Diploma in Economic and might do that and then apply for MSc Finance next year.

I have a 1st Class in Electronic engineering and am also considering the MSc Financial mathematics but feel the maths may be too advanced.

You say the MSc Financial Mathematic students are more targeted. Do the investment banks approach students directly and ask for they want to work for them?
How do you know they are more targeted?


Thanks
Nayland
Reply 32
nrwf500
The MSc Fin Math course is very good and the students are the most targetted, but for more specific research and quant jobs. THe MFin and MFin&Eco students do not do any modules with them, we do loads of advanced econocmetrics but I think their content is the next step up and actually programming such models. I do know that they learn programming languages such as C++ and use more advanced software than we do (MFin/FinEco use VBA, SPlus, Matlab, R, Bloomberg, Reuters). If you want to go into the more general front office jobs I think the MFin and MFin&Eco probably have the edge, but I'm probably biased...

Not sure about the course at Reading at all. We don't have a trading room but we do have Bloomberg and Reuters terminals. I didn't consider it and know nothing about the course at Reading - it missed my radar. I applied to Cam, LSE, Warwick, Imperial, Durham, York.

There are aprox 100 people on the MSc Fin course and (only!) 4 British students. Don't think there are any British on the MFinMath out of about 25 students. However, loads of Europeans and people from Asia. As to the reason, I think British students on the whole are less thirsty for more education (our schooling system tends to do that), don't need to do a masters to go to front office jobs (I'm doing the course because I really want to do it and fear if I don't do it before I start working I'll probably never do it) and foreign students see going to a targetted UK university as a route into a job in London.

Hope that helps,

Nick




Thanks for you advice

I applied to the MSc Finance but got rejected because I had no economics content in my degree.

If you get the MSc Finance and your british then you have a great chance of getting a job. From what I understand investment banks in london only take on people who have the right to work in the UK and will not sponser anybody.

I've been accepted on the Post graduate Diploma in Economic and might do that and then apply for MSc Finance next year.

I have a 1st Class in Electronic engineering and am also considering the MSc Financial mathematics but feel the maths may be too advanced.

You say the MSc Financial Mathematic students are more targeted. Do the investment banks approach students directly and ask for they want to work for them?
How do you know they are more targeted?


Thanks
Nayland
Reply 33
nrwf500
The MSc Fin Math course is very good and the students are the most targetted, but for more specific research and quant jobs. THe MFin and MFin&Eco students do not do any modules with them, we do loads of advanced econocmetrics but I think their content is the next step up and actually programming such models. I do know that they learn programming languages such as C++ and use more advanced software than we do (MFin/FinEco use VBA, SPlus, Matlab, R, Bloomberg, Reuters). If you want to go into the more general front office jobs I think the MFin and MFin&Eco probably have the edge, but I'm probably biased...

Not sure about the course at Reading at all. We don't have a trading room but we do have Bloomberg and Reuters terminals. I didn't consider it and know nothing about the course at Reading - it missed my radar. I applied to Cam, LSE, Warwick, Imperial, Durham, York.

There are aprox 100 people on the MSc Fin course and (only!) 4 British students. Don't think there are any British on the MFinMath out of about 25 students. However, loads of Europeans and people from Asia. As to the reason, I think British students on the whole are less thirsty for more education (our schooling system tends to do that), don't need to do a masters to go to front office jobs (I'm doing the course because I really want to do it and fear if I don't do it before I start working I'll probably never do it) and foreign students see going to a targetted UK university as a route into a job in London.

Hope that helps,

Nick



thank you nick

that was really some valuable input!
this post is kinda funny for me... i had undergrad at cass and been offered a position at wbs for pg... regardless of that i've always heard warwick was better than cass

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