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Reply 180
Original post by crm042000
Those of you who are following this thread - what do you actaully know about London Metropolitan University (LMU)? I bet that a significant number of the critics here have never visited the university BUT have 'just' jumped on a ban waggon. Well, here is an opinion that is based on 3 years experience of studying law at LMU. Needless to say, it is no Oxford or Cambridge BUT make NO mistake; particularly the Law, Governance and International Relations Department (LGIR) at the City campus, has to be one of the best law departments in London. Sadly, I cannot comment on any other departments of the university and will not speculate. BUT LMU LLB (Hons) and LPC courses are up there for sure...they are rigorous and are taught by well known professors and/or lawyers who make themselves readily available for student queries. The LPC course, for example, is taught in very small groups with intimate lecturer and/or tutor discussions. The LPC students are treated like Royalty...they utilise a Mock Court room, an exclusive (well resourced) library and an entire floor for themselves. And to be fair, the SRA has rated LMU with the highest possible grade for the LPC across 5 out of 6 areas. Now, there are other providers out there with a better reputation than LMU LPC but have lower grades for the LPC from the SRA. Now! You do the maths...

Again, I am not purporting that LMU is the best but certainly, it does not get the credit it deserves. I know a lot of commercial and other lawyers who studied at LMU and are earning big bucks! I hope the new VC will do all he can to repair LMU's bad reputation. I have nothing bad to say about the Law Department; wish I could comment on the other departments.


It is sad crm042000, that you have never been to Holloway road "campus". It is a different world...
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Reply 181
Some London met courses aren't that bad, actually. For example, their education courses were rated very well by Ofsted. Personally speaking, I wouldn't apply to London Met purely due to the negative name it has.
Reply 182
I think London Metr. is really bad. One of the worst unis. I am not sure, if students can take easy a really good job or can do a master in universities like Cam or LSE. ;/
Reply 183
It's on par with Oxbridge
Original post by zziippoo
I think London Metr. is really bad. One of the worst unis. I am not sure, if students can take easy a really good job or can do a master in universities like Cam or LSE. ;/


I know two guys that went to the London MET, sudied Management, graduated with a 2:1, one is doing his Msc in Birkbeck and the other one in Warwick.But still told me the MET was crap.
Reply 185
Although the reputation of LMU isn't that good you have to give some credit because this uni hasn't been around for that long so its going take a while for it to get anywhere on the league table. Unis like Cambridge and Oxford are one of the oldest unis and so they are at the top of the league table. As a student from this uni can tell you that its not that bad; the staff are helpful, adequate resources are available, the students on my campus ARE hard working and do seem motivated in their work.
Reply 186
Original post by oj234
Depends which subject, it is very strong for Economics and Politics. Still, though, no matter which subject...Essex is in a completely different league to London Met. It's in the 1994 group alongside Durham, York, Loughborough etc.

Plus, the speaker of the house of commons went to Essex :tongue:


Did he? You learn something new everyday! I agree, though - the two aren't worth comparing.
Reply 187
My cousin went there, he graduated last year with a first in Accounting and Finance.
He is now working for Deloitte in a graduate position.
It can't really be that bad now, can it?
People seem to forget that LONDON METROPOLITAN has only been a university for about a decade (and yes, I do know about the merger)
I guess in the end, it really does come down to the individual.
If your an Oxbridge educated **** who loves to talk down to people and think of yourself as God's gift, then good luck to you.
There really is no substitute for hard work and perservance. If LMU graduates have the motivation and the work ethic then they will do well.
:smile:
Original post by U.Ahmed
My cousin went there, he graduated last year with a first in Accounting and Finance.
He is now working for Deloitte in a graduate position.
It can't really be that bad now, can it?
People seem to forget that LONDON METROPOLITAN has only been a university for about a decade (and yes, I do know about the merger)
I guess in the end, it really does come down to the individual.
If your an Oxbridge educated **** who loves to talk down to people and think of yourself as God's gift, then good luck to you.
There really is no substitute for hard work and perservance. If LMU graduates have the motivation and the work ethic then they will do well.
:smile:


I got a 2:2 from Oxford Uni and Deloitte already rejected me.
Reply 189
Original post by theliteralsense
I got a 2:2 from Oxford Uni and Deloitte already rejected me.


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I know quite a few people from london met, and in general - when you speak to them, you realise why they go there. Seriously.
my cousin went there last year and is swaping to bristol uwe this year
Reply 192
Someone said it was better than UEL, but that's not saying much...

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Reply 193
Well, judging by my impressions, London Met is a highly uneven university.

I was originally a Moscow State University student of British Studies (currently doing a PhD there). MSU had a student programme with London Met that allowed me to get a Bachelor's degree from Met in a single year. It took me a year of preparatory courses in Russia and a year of studying with third-year students at London Met to get a BA in Applied Translation. The whole endeavour cost about £6500, which was quite low, seeing how I was an overseas student.

The seminars and lectures associated with Applied Translation were at Moorgate, a perfectly decent location. My student hall, unrelated to London Met, was located at Old Street, so both the City of London and Central London were within a reasonable cycling distance (as far as I remember, about 10 minutes to Moorgate, about 40 minutes to Holborn). That was important to me because I was also unofficially attending lectures at LSE with a friend, and generally was visiting the area around Holborn frequently.

The demographic at the courses I attended appeared to be quite different from the general Met populace. For starters, the students were chiefly European (German, Austrian, French, Italian, Spanish, Polish) with a couple of Latin Americans and French Berbers. The two other Met places I visited, Holloway and Whitechapel, seemingly had a much higher percentage of black students and students dressed in Islamic attires. I didn't socialise too much at the university and didn't forge any lasting friendships, but the only person I had come to know fairly well later on received an MA from King's College London, so it's not like London Met had a negative influence on them. Some of the students were very motivated and sharp, while some adult students seemed (understandably) a bit thick when it came to languages.

I don't really have major complaints about the courses themselves or the student facilities at Moorgate. We had guest lecturers who spoke on their specialist fields, the courses were properly supported online, they had all the relevant software installed, the computer rooms weren't overcrowded, the library was acceptable, etc.

The only really negative experience I had was with the marking. Somewhat degradingly, I ended up with a 2:1 because I had foolishly submitted a paper through online submission a few minutes after the deadline (12 PM). The paper got 71, but the late submission meant it was reduced to 40. That had a greater effect on my average mark than it should have had, since it contributed 1/8th rather than 1/24th of the final mark. My bad, of course, but neither MSU nor LSE were as strict with deadlines on paper submission. Such strictness might be a consequence of troubles at other faculties.
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Original post by Ahumsk
Well, judging by my impressions, London Met is a highly uneven university.

I was originally a Moscow State University student of British Studies (currently doing a PhD there). MSU had a student programme with London Met that allowed me to get a Bachelor's degree from Met in a single year. It took me a year of preparatory courses in Russia and a year of studying with third-year students at London Met to get a BA in Applied Translation. The whole endeavour cost about £6500, which was quite low, seeing how I was an overseas student.

The seminars and lectures associated with Applied Translation were at Moorgate, a perfectly decent location. My student hall, unrelated to London Met, was located at Old Street, so both the City of London and Central London were within a reasonable cycling distance (as far as I remember, about 10 minutes to Moorgate, about 40 minutes to Holborn). That was important to me because I was also unofficially attending lectures at LSE with a friend, and generally was visiting the area around Holborn frequently.

The demographic at the courses I attended appeared to be quite different from the general Met populace. For starters, the students were chiefly European (German, Austrian, French, Italian, Spanish, Polish) with a couple of Latin Americans and French Berbers. The two other Met places I visited, Holloway and Whitechapel, seemingly had a much higher percentage of black students and students dressed in Islamic attires. I didn't socialise too much at the university and didn't forge any lasting friendships, but the only person I had come to know fairly well later on received an MA from King's College London, so it's not like London Met had a negative influence on them. Some of the students were very motivated and sharp, while some adult students seemed (understandably) a bit thick when it came to languages.

I don't really have major complaints about the courses themselves or the student facilities at Moorgate. We had guest lecturers who spoke on their specialist fields, the courses were properly supported online, they had all the relevant software installed, the computer rooms weren't overcrowded, the library was acceptable, etc.

The only really negative experience I had was with the marking. Somewhat degradingly, I ended up with a 2:1 because I had foolishly submitted a paper through online submission a few minutes after the deadline (12 PM). The paper got 71, but the late submission meant it was reduced to 40. That had a greater effect on my average mark than it should have had, since it contributed 1/8th rather than 1/24th of the final mark. My bad, of course, but neither MSU nor LSE were as strict with deadlines on paper submission. Such strictness might be a consequence of troubles at other faculties.


Many unis here have similar marking practises
Reply 195
I am considering to go to London met for a LLB course, even tho the league table put the uni in a 75th place, the employability of the graduates is higher than greenwich which was my second option, I understand that as long as you pass your course and end up in a 2:1 , it wouldnt be a problem. Anyone who has done a LLB course in London met?
Reply 196
I would put the league tables aside,I started the LLB at London Met-Whitechapel campus and let's just say I'm not there now,I couldn't even go through one term. The majority of the course was OK but there seemed to be an abundance of older and foreign students who would take over lectures to argue with the lecturer on points of Law that were absolute or voice political opinions relating to their home country ( in my experience it was mostly Nigerians) the rest of the class would get extremely exasperated and voice their opinion because 3/4 of the lecture would be spent listening to these guys going completely off topic and thus making us delay. Here's the funny thing. The lecturer would turn around and say "it's just banter"... Well I decided I didn't want to pay 3 grand a year for "banter" and left. Word to the wise,don't go! Half of my classmates are leaving this year to go to better universities. Coincidentally I'm off to study politics at Greenwich now :smile:
Reply 197
Original post by crm042000
Those of you who are following this thread - what do you actaully know about London Metropolitan University (LMU)? I bet that a significant number of the critics here have never visited the university BUT have 'just' jumped on a ban waggon. Well, here is an opinion that is based on 3 years experience of studying law at LMU. Needless to say, it is no Oxford or Cambridge BUT make NO mistake; particularly the Law, Governance and International Relations Department (LGIR) at the City campus, has to be one of the best law departments in London. Sadly, I cannot comment on any other departments of the university and will not speculate. BUT LMU LLB (Hons) and LPC courses are up there for sure...they are rigorous and are taught by well known professors and/or lawyers who make themselves readily available for student queries. The LPC course, for example, is taught in very small groups with intimate lecturer and/or tutor discussions. The LPC students are treated like Royalty...they utilise a Mock Court room, an exclusive (well resourced) library and an entire floor for themselves. And to be fair, the SRA has rated LMU with the highest possible grade for the LPC across 5 out of 6 areas. Now, there are other providers out there with a better reputation than LMU LPC but have lower grades for the LPC from the SRA. Now! You do the maths...

Again, I am not purporting that LMU is the best but certainly, it does not get the credit it deserves. I know a lot of commercial and other lawyers who studied at LMU and are earning big bucks! I hope the new VC will do all he can to repair LMU's bad reputation. I have nothing bad to say about the Law Department; wish I could comment on the other departments.


Hey, I just read your comment and finally I see a graduate's comment.
I am thinking to accept the offer for the LLB course. How is the employability nowadays from London Met graduates? When did u graduate from the course?
Reply 198
Original post by Freudian
(in my experience it was mostly Nigerians)

:cool:
Reply 199
Hi there,

I am a research student at London Met. To the honest of my opinion, I'd like to say that I really enjoy studying at London Met especially in the academic circumstances. I am now doing my research (thesis) and I find that London Met has many qualified academics / professors who are experts in their fields. For example I have now two supervisors of my thesis who are able to guide me during my thesis writing and build my critical thinking grew even further. These what I like the most of London Met: its academic excellence.

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