Hypothetical 2013/02 - North Korean Conflict
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Original post by Superunknown17
OOC: I'm in college atm so I'm not gonna respond with France yet but for any use of military force like that you need to put it through the Secretary General at least.
OOC: I have sent it to the Secretary General. I said I would strike at 1, I couldn't hold off much longer.
The UK/NZ deplore the North Koreans use of WMDs, in accordance with our obligations to protect our allies in the south we will be diverting our fleet to the Yellow sea and will be commencing strikes as soon as we are within range.
We have also deployed all four trident submarines to various potential strike locations.
We shall also be deploying a large contingent of fighter aircraft to Diego Garcia should they be required.
We have also deployed all four trident submarines to various potential strike locations.
We shall also be deploying a large contingent of fighter aircraft to Diego Garcia should they be required.
OOC: well yeah but if it just goes nuking every country it wants then it's just gonna make it unrealistic
OOC: I definitely think the requirement to prove that a nuclear launch would be your nations course of attack is an important safeguard to keep the MUN realistic. I assume in this situation, if I sought Security Council approval for a Nuclear Strike that they would discuss the idea out of character? Because the question would be down to whether an attack would be realistic, not individual nations point of views.
Original post by david9640
OOC: No-one seems to be online :P I'll feel bad if I launch an attack!
[North Korea]
Chemical Weapons have been used against Seoul. We await news of their success.
Strikes on Tokyo and further strikes on Seoul will follow in the coming hours unless word of the withdrawal of foreign forces is heard. Should word not be heard we shall continue as planned.
[North Korea]
Chemical Weapons have been used against Seoul. We await news of their success.
Strikes on Tokyo and further strikes on Seoul will follow in the coming hours unless word of the withdrawal of foreign forces is heard. Should word not be heard we shall continue as planned.
OOC: I sent this to Birch as a Newsflash at midday, but things seem to be moving more rapidly so I'll post it straight.
In the early hours of this morning, two North Korean MiG-29 Pyongyang defence aircraft engaged and were shot down by the HMAS Darwin. The Darwin is stationed within firing range of the capital, Pyongyang.
Australia has retaliated by a successful airstrike against the DPRK's east coast missile launch pad, from which the Japan missile and earlier missile tests were launched. Post action intelligence suggests the pad's capabilities have been completely disabled. Australia lost one F18 Hornet in the airstrike, and we send our condolences to the family of the brave air force pilot who died defending his principles and country.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by david9640
OOC: I definitely think the requirement to prove that a nuclear launch would be your nations course of attack is an important safeguard to keep the MUN realistic. I assume in this situation, if I sought Security Council approval for a Nuclear Strike that they would discuss the idea out of character? Because the question would be down to whether an attack would be realistic, not individual nations point of views.
I would suggest that we would discuss it out of character, and look at whether or not NK has the ability to even launch a strike, and then whether they would if they could.
Original post by Qwertish
OOC: I sent this as a Newsflash, but things seem to be moving more rapidly so I'll post it straight.
In the early hours of this morning, two North Korean MiG-29 Pyongyang defence aircraft engaged and were shot down by the HMAS Darwin. The Darwin is stationed within firing range of the capital, Pyongyang.
Australia has retaliated by a successful airstrike against the DPRK's east coast missile launch pad, from which the Japan missile and earlier missile tests were launched. Post action intelligence suggests the pad's capabilities have been completely disabled. Australia lost one F18 Hornet in the airstrike, and we send our condolences to the family of the brave air force pilot who died defending his principles and country.
In the early hours of this morning, two North Korean MiG-29 Pyongyang defence aircraft engaged and were shot down by the HMAS Darwin. The Darwin is stationed within firing range of the capital, Pyongyang.
Australia has retaliated by a successful airstrike against the DPRK's east coast missile launch pad, from which the Japan missile and earlier missile tests were launched. Post action intelligence suggests the pad's capabilities have been completely disabled. Australia lost one F18 Hornet in the airstrike, and we send our condolences to the family of the brave air force pilot who died defending his principles and country.
OOC: I'm slightly uncomfortable with this situation. I mean, any one of us can just claim something happened. I mean, I could just say I've destroyed your whole naval fleet. I think who actually succeeds needs to be decided by a third party. I mean, N.K. was only attacked yesterday, and already, they've apparently lost control of the east coast, you've defeated their whole navy and are within firing range of Pyongyang and you've destroyed their missile launch pads. I mean, I think N.K., with 1,700 planes would send more than 2 planes to fight off your attacks. It takes time to take over a country, or destroy infrastructure, N.K. has been planning for war for decades, it would take longer than 24h to take apart their plan.
Original post by david9640
OOC: No-one seems to be online :P I'll feel bad if I launch an attack!
[North Korea]
Chemical Weapons have been used against Seoul. We await news of their success.
Strikes on Tokyo and further strikes on Seoul will follow in the coming hours unless word of the withdrawal of foreign forces is heard. Should word not be heard we shall continue as planned.
[North Korea]
Chemical Weapons have been used against Seoul. We await news of their success.
Strikes on Tokyo and further strikes on Seoul will follow in the coming hours unless word of the withdrawal of foreign forces is heard. Should word not be heard we shall continue as planned.
Australia deplores this use of chemical weapons against the Republic of Korea.
Australian ground forces have been deployed to the cleared out region on the east coast of the DPRK, and will be pushing forward to attempt to set up an FOB at the destroyed east coast missile launch pad. Details of the force deployed will be relayed via the SG.
We hope to work in co-ordination with our NATO allies to ensure civilian casualties are kept to a minimum and that the offensive does not become a protracted invasion.
Kiss
USA
cl_steele
UK & NZ
Superunknown17
France
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by david9640
OOC: I'm slightly uncomfortable with this situation. I mean, any one of us can just claim something happened. I mean, I could just say I've destroyed your whole naval fleet. I think who actually succeeds needs to be decided by a third party. I mean, N.K. was only attacked yesterday, and already, they've apparently lost control of the east coast, you've defeated their whole navy and are within firing range of Pyongyang and you've destroyed their missile launch pads. I mean, I think N.K., with 1,700 planes would send more than 2 planes to fight off your attacks. It takes time to take over a country, or destroy infrastructure, N.K. has been planning for war for decades, it would take longer than 24h to take apart their plan.
OOC: I agree. Hm... What if we stick to vague things like "an offensive has been launched" or "etc etc ships were moved here", and then let Birch and Rory work who "wins"?
Birchington
QFA
RoryS
QFA
Original post by Qwertish
OOC: I agree. Hm... What if we stick to vague things like "an offensive has been launched" or "etc etc ships were moved here", and then let Birch and Rory work who "wins"?
OOC: Sounds better
It was always going to be difficult. [North Korea]
The attack on our missile launch pads, while partially successful, has not completely destroyed our launch capabilities. We had previously planned for the potential to lose this site and would remind the west that we have other nuclear launch sites, including one close to the Chinese border which has been adapted.
We again urge a full withdrawal, invasion forces in North Korean territory shall not be tolerated.
Original post by Superunknown17
OOC: I think we definitely need a Chinese rep for this one, considering SunderX has been removed.
IC: If the DPRK wishes to continues this path to self destruction then it is at their own peril.
The French Republic is officially declaring war on North Korea.
France urges China not to involve themselves in this, the international community has tolerated North Korea for long enough and the time has come to put a stop to their disastrous regime.
France also questions the use of nuclear weapons on Seoul considering the proximity to North Korea itself. Is North Korea so hellbent on using their alleged nuclear weapons that they'd even risk harming their own citizens?
France will be mobilizing troops to assist the United States and our allies soon.
IC: If the DPRK wishes to continues this path to self destruction then it is at their own peril.
The French Republic is officially declaring war on North Korea.
France urges China not to involve themselves in this, the international community has tolerated North Korea for long enough and the time has come to put a stop to their disastrous regime.
France also questions the use of nuclear weapons on Seoul considering the proximity to North Korea itself. Is North Korea so hellbent on using their alleged nuclear weapons that they'd even risk harming their own citizens?
France will be mobilizing troops to assist the United States and our allies soon.
OOC: Yeah we do.
The US thanks the French for their support and suggest a co-ordinated attack along with the British and Brazilian fleet from the East China Sea/Yellow Sea to attack the South Western side of the Korean facilities along Changyon to inhibit naval facilities.
The Russian Federation would advise against unnecessary action from outside parties in an internal conflict.
Original post by david9640
OCC: Is there some sort of discussion over what attacks succeed? I mean, 15 military bases in one night against an army numbering 9 million, 1,700 in air support and numerous navy vessels sounds quite unlikely, even considering the gap in technology. I think America would be a bit more reluctant to invade considering N,Korea have actually got Nuclear Weapons, I don't think they would attack on the 'hunch' that N.Korea wouldn't use them. If a crazy regime like N.Korea were backed into a corner, like this situation seems to suggest is going to happen, then I could honestly see them using the Nukes, if the country is about to be taken over, then its not unlikely I would say.
OOC: The North Korean military doesn't have the capability to currently compete with Western multi-role jets, they'd be taken out in seconds against modern US/British technologies. This isn't necessarily an invasion force as much as it is a bombardment/shock and awe campaign as the US have the capability to bombard the North on three fronts from both coasts and the South.
[North Korea]
The Deadline has been moved forward by 1 hour for a Nuclear Strike. We have taken precautions to move some missiles to underground locations. We still have strong troop numbers on the east coast, only a few thousand casualties were sustained in recent imperialist attacks. Landmines and other hidden explosive devices have been placed along major invasion routes. Barricades have been set up to fight incoming ground attacks. Our ground forces in the region still number at least 300,000. Further troops have been deployed to the region.
The west coast is still fully defended. A further 400,000 troops have been deployed, as well as the current troop numbers of over 1 million in the region. Barricades have been setup as a precaution. Our troops have been instructed to fight to the death. Ahead of each barricade is a set number of troops, they are not to fall back. They will be shot on sight if they attempt to retreat behind our barricades. Tanks, as well as air support have been deployed to the region. Our troops also have Chemical Weapons at their disposal.
OCC: I'm still allowed to threaten right? I'll seek Security council approval if the worst comes to the worst, but I doubt it will.
[North Korea]
The Deadline has been moved forward by 1 hour for a Nuclear Strike. We have taken precautions to move some missiles to underground locations. We still have strong troop numbers on the east coast, only a few thousand casualties were sustained in recent imperialist attacks. Landmines and other hidden explosive devices have been placed along major invasion routes. Barricades have been set up to fight incoming ground attacks. Our ground forces in the region still number at least 300,000. Further troops have been deployed to the region.
The west coast is still fully defended. A further 400,000 troops have been deployed, as well as the current troop numbers of over 1 million in the region. Barricades have been setup as a precaution. Our troops have been instructed to fight to the death. Ahead of each barricade is a set number of troops, they are not to fall back. They will be shot on sight if they attempt to retreat behind our barricades. Tanks, as well as air support have been deployed to the region. Our troops also have Chemical Weapons at their disposal.
OCC: I'm still allowed to threaten right? I'll seek Security council approval if the worst comes to the worst, but I doubt it will.
OCC: Yeah you are.
The Russian Federation strongly advises that chemical warfare is off limits for all parties and wishes for a return to diplomacy.
Original post by cl_steele
The UK/NZ deplore the North Koreans use of WMDs, in accordance with our obligations to protect our allies in the south we will be diverting our fleet to the Yellow sea and will be commencing strikes as soon as we are within range.
We have also deployed all four trident submarines to various potential strike locations.
We shall also be deploying a large contingent of fighter aircraft to Diego Garcia should they be required.
We have also deployed all four trident submarines to various potential strike locations.
We shall also be deploying a large contingent of fighter aircraft to Diego Garcia should they be required.
The US appreciates the UK's assistance and we suggest a joint task force with French and Brazilian support to back the assault on the South Western coast of North Korea.
The Federative Republic of Brazil will escort the UK with assistance in this conflict in provision of arm surpluses, 5 Type 209 strike submarines, the San Paulo Aircraft carrier equipped with 40 fixed wing jets, 10 frigates and 4 Inhauama class corvettes.
Original post by Qwertish
OOC: I sent this to Birch as a Newsflash at midday, but things seem to be moving more rapidly so I'll post it straight.
In the early hours of this morning, two North Korean MiG-29 Pyongyang defence aircraft engaged and were shot down by the HMAS Darwin. The Darwin is stationed within firing range of the capital, Pyongyang.
Australia has retaliated by a successful airstrike against the DPRK's east coast missile launch pad, from which the Japan missile and earlier missile tests were launched. Post action intelligence suggests the pad's capabilities have been completely disabled. Australia lost one F18 Hornet in the airstrike, and we send our condolences to the family of the brave air force pilot who died defending his principles and country.
In the early hours of this morning, two North Korean MiG-29 Pyongyang defence aircraft engaged and were shot down by the HMAS Darwin. The Darwin is stationed within firing range of the capital, Pyongyang.
Australia has retaliated by a successful airstrike against the DPRK's east coast missile launch pad, from which the Japan missile and earlier missile tests were launched. Post action intelligence suggests the pad's capabilities have been completely disabled. Australia lost one F18 Hornet in the airstrike, and we send our condolences to the family of the brave air force pilot who died defending his principles and country.
The US congratulates the Australian success for their strike though we offer our condolences to the pilot who lost his life.
Original post by Qwertish
Australia deplores this use of chemical weapons against the Republic of Korea.
Australian ground forces have been deployed to the cleared out region on the east coast of the DPRK, and will be pushing forward to attempt to set up an FOB at the destroyed east coast missile launch pad. Details of the force deployed will be relayed via the SG.
We hope to work in co-ordination with our NATO allies to ensure civilian casualties are kept to a minimum and that the offensive does not become a protracted invasion.
Australian ground forces have been deployed to the cleared out region on the east coast of the DPRK, and will be pushing forward to attempt to set up an FOB at the destroyed east coast missile launch pad. Details of the force deployed will be relayed via the SG.
We hope to work in co-ordination with our NATO allies to ensure civilian casualties are kept to a minimum and that the offensive does not become a protracted invasion.
The US will help with directional preparations for the future conflict which we shall have to engage in.
An update from the representative for Australia, Qwertish.
The HMAS Choules, HMAS Brunei, HMAS Labuan and HMAS Tarakan have landed on the east coast of North Korea, and have disembarked the 1st and 7th brigades of the Australian Army.
The force has set up an initial operating base, and are awaiting further instructions. Their primary objective is securing North Korean missile launch stations and disabling their ability to attack remotely.
The HMAS Choules, HMAS Brunei, HMAS Labuan and HMAS Tarakan have landed on the east coast of North Korea, and have disembarked the 1st and 7th brigades of the Australian Army.
The force has set up an initial operating base, and are awaiting further instructions. Their primary objective is securing North Korean missile launch stations and disabling their ability to attack remotely.
Qwertish
QFA
Original post by Kiss
OOC: Yeah we do.
The US thanks the French for their support and suggest a co-ordinated attack along with the British and Brazilian fleet from the East China Sea/Yellow Sea to attack the South Western side of the Korean facilities along Changyon to inhibit naval facilities.
The Russian Federation would advise against unnecessary action from outside parties in an internal conflict.
OCC: Yeah you are.
The Russian Federation strongly advises that chemical warfare is off limits for all parties and wishes for a return to diplomacy.
The US thanks the French for their support and suggest a co-ordinated attack along with the British and Brazilian fleet from the East China Sea/Yellow Sea to attack the South Western side of the Korean facilities along Changyon to inhibit naval facilities.
The Russian Federation would advise against unnecessary action from outside parties in an internal conflict.
OCC: Yeah you are.
The Russian Federation strongly advises that chemical warfare is off limits for all parties and wishes for a return to diplomacy.
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is willing to find a diplomatic solution on the condition that invasion forces are withdrawn and a peace treaty is signed. We still stick to the belief that the future on the Korean Peninsula should be down to the Korean people. Our actions in recent days have been in self-defence.
We suggest a 48 hour ceasefire.
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Original post by david9640
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is willing to find a diplomatic solution on the condition that invasion forces are withdrawn and a peace treaty is signed. We still stick to the belief that the future on the Korean Peninsula should be down to the Korean people. Our actions in recent days have been in self-defence.
We suggest a 48 hour ceasefire.
We suggest a 48 hour ceasefire.
The UK finds this unacceptable, the international community has tolerated you and your chubby leader for long enough nothing but an unconditional surrender, disarmemement, removal of all military control over the civillian population and a return to democracy will be accepted. In the mean time our fleet is within range and we have begun a preliminary bombardment of nampo and other cities in the vacinity, we shall shortly be landing troops to dislodge your corrupt regime if you do not comply with the aforementioned prerequisites.
Our Nuclear Missiles are armed and ready. Our military has been given the strict instruction to fire on Seoul should any foreign forces come within a 20 Mile radius of Pyongyang.
"A large ground force 30,000 soldiers strong has been sent to the reported location of the Australian military. (1st brigade~3,500 soldiers. 7th~?)
Our ground forces will be assisted by 10 Su-25 Bombers, who will be protected by 20 Mig-29 Fighter Jets.
A secondary strike force consisting of 10 MiG-29, 10 Su-25 Bombers and 10 Mig-29 Fighter Jets have been told to engage with the Australian Naval Fleet. 5 Romeo Class submarines have been given the order to attack the Australian Navy with 'unlimited force', these shall be backed up further by 54 above water vessels of an undisclosed nature.
The Korean leadership an military command have went underground."
OOC: How do I seek security council approval for a possible Nuclear Strike?
"A large ground force 30,000 soldiers strong has been sent to the reported location of the Australian military. (1st brigade~3,500 soldiers. 7th~?)
Our ground forces will be assisted by 10 Su-25 Bombers, who will be protected by 20 Mig-29 Fighter Jets.
A secondary strike force consisting of 10 MiG-29, 10 Su-25 Bombers and 10 Mig-29 Fighter Jets have been told to engage with the Australian Naval Fleet. 5 Romeo Class submarines have been given the order to attack the Australian Navy with 'unlimited force', these shall be backed up further by 54 above water vessels of an undisclosed nature.
The Korean leadership an military command have went underground."
OOC: How do I seek security council approval for a possible Nuclear Strike?
Original post by david9640
OOC: How do I seek security council approval for a possible Nuclear Strike?
OOC: We'll do it on here.
Kiss
USA
cl_steele
UK & NZ
PierceBrosnan
Switzerland
Superunknown17
France
Aye or nay? :P
Original post by Qwertish
OOC: We'll do it on here.
Aye or nay? :P
Aye or nay? :P
He needs the SG and SC approval but i think itll make it more fun so let rip with the nukes korea...just bare oin mind you dont have any missiles to mount them on though...
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