Oxford gang found guilty of grooming and sexually exploiting girls

No True Scotsmen abounds.

The majority of people from their ethnic origins are Muslim, along with the fact that their names imply it. It may be a bit of a generalisation, but it's a pretty sound conclusion to draw, add to that of course, those of similar ethnic origin and apparent religion accused of similar crimes have turned out to be Muslim. I'll agree that cultural issues are probably more to blame than Islam, but I reject that Islam has no hand it. So no, I'll not ignore these factors to appease your liberal PC sensibilities.

Reading through that, it's pretty obvious that's satirical ie: he ends it with "How can I be racist. I have white friends" which is the line that racists tend to use.

Last time I checked Islam wasn't listed as ethnicity. Of course they are descendants of families with Islamic faith, its obvious given by their names. But we should refrain ourselves from calling them Muslims, unless they choose to identify themselves as such. It is the same as not to assume some one is a christian just because his name is James. I think more investigations need to be done before or if they can be generalized as Muslims

When these people are taking examples from there prophet, who had sex with a child, then im really not surprised that they think its ok to do it

Last time I checked Islam wasn't listed as ethnicity. Of course they are descendants of families with Islamic faith, its obvious given by their names. But we should refrain ourselves from calling them Muslims, unless they choose to identify themselves as such. It is the same as not to assume some one is a christian just because his name is James. I think more investigations need to be done before or if they can be generalized as Muslims.

I wouldn't say the same if this was a case of terrorism for example, in light of the astonishing evidence of the link between Islam and Terrorism. There isn't shortage of videos of people chanting Islamic phrases as they commit atrocities. But this is a case where we don't know yet, so to quickly label them Muslims when Islam is not ethnicity shows prejudice not a sound way of analyzing a serious issue.

Question for a few members in this thread - if this is typical behaviour of 'many Asian cultures', to paraphrase what someone has already said in this thread, is Jimmy Savile, Dave Lee Travis, Rolf Harris, William Roache, Gary Glitter, Jim Davidson, Freddie Starr, Max Clifford, Stuart Hall and Jimmy Tarbuck typical behaviour of elderly white Christian men?

This is merely sidestepping the point. As I said before, it is negligent to avoid discussing if there are cultural causes for the sake of political correctness. By all means, investigate the incidences of these old white Christian men (although I'd suspect that has something to do with their position in society), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be asking ourselves why these Pakistanis or those of middle eastern origin are commiting these disgusting acts.

Ultimately, we all want to prevent this from happening again. And that's not going to happen if we don't discover the under-lying issues first.

Vile. of course bad people come in all shapes, colours and sizes.

However the fact the all the convicted were of pakistani origin, that all the victims were white and that all the 'customers' of these gangs were muslim . Is deeply disturbing as it alludes to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society. We are no longer culturally cohesive, enjoy the results.

Did I ever state that 'Muslim' was an ethnicity? I meant East Asian and North/West African. I'd say it's safe to assume they identify as Muslim until evidence points the other way, as the majority of people with such names, from such places are. Just as if someone called James were to commit such acts I'd assume they are a moderate Christian/irreligious, assuming it happened in the UK.

Pardon me I misunderstood the part about ethnicity. All I am saying is lets not label them Muslims yet. It is safe to assume and by all means investigate based on the assumption, if there is any link. But for now I would only label them savages.