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Original post by Shanperson
The case looks a bit small- Are you sure the modular PSU will fit? (EDIT: Non modular version is CX 600 - I have this too! :P )

Personally I would go with 2 x 1TB HDDs and RAID just in case one fails.

16GB is way too much if you only want to game. Most games hardly use more than 8GB.

The motherboard you picked (I have this mother board :smile: ) is the overclockable version of the H87N-WiFi, so I would recommend getting that if you don't want to overclock.

Again, the CPU is not overclockable, that would be the 4770k, and i7 isn't better for gaming than i5. (I have the 4670k - works brilliantly).

Make sure the CPU cooler will fit in the case you picked and won't be obstucted by your RAM.

Have you decided on an operating system?

Building your own computers is really rewarding, so have fun and good luck! :smile:



I have looked at a few builds like the one I want to make and people have fit that exact cooler and PSU in the case, so I'm hoping it'll fit in mine too.

I was thinking i7 for future proofing and because I'm going to start a computer science course this year. I assume if I'm going to learn the tasks that are more demanding on a computer, it'll help me to have a better CPU??

And yes, I'll go with the non overclockable CPU, thanks.
I went with 1 HDD because I doubt it'll fit in the case otherwise (every little bit counts!)
Original post by RabbitCFH
Thanks - apparently it is compatible: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2023053 - how could I check it myself though?


More than enough, however do not sli in the future...........rather sell your current one and buy a new model, as the gain from a new single gpu will be far better.

Original post by ParasiticSnake
Plan on building this after my exam's.

What do you think?

I used part picker because it's the easiest to list all the parts :smile:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3aM5H


Serious stuff, however wait till summer, as by then things will have changed a lot, possibly new mobo chipset and cpu's. And avoid multiple sellers.

Original post by karvw
Hey
I would like to build my own gaming desktop this June. I want to build a high end system in a small form factor. This'll be my first build and I've thought a lot about it so I hope I'm getting it right (so far :tongue:) I do not plan to overclock, just fyi. I'll list my parts and hope to get some advice on my choices.

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI (Mini-ITX)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770
CPU Cooler: Corsair H75
GPU: GTX 780 ((or should I go 780 Ti?? Also, what make? Gigabye, Asus, EVGA...))
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance a bit overkill, plus some 16gb patriot version on sale somewhere online
SSD: Samsung 120GB EVO 840 Series
HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm
Case: Fractal Design Node 304
PSU: Corsair CX 600M

and the peripherals

Monitor: Asus VS24AH 24" 1920x1200
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei

I'm probably buying all this in Russia, and I'm getting a price of about 1320 pounds/2200 dollars.

Any advice? Anything stupid I did? Anything is appreciated. Thanks.


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Original post by karvw
Hey
I would like to build my own gaming desktop this June. I want to build a high end system in a small form factor. This'll be my first build and I've thought a lot about it so I hope I'm getting it right (so far :tongue:) I do not plan to overclock, just fyi. I'll list my parts and hope to get some advice on my choices.

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI (Mini-ITX)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770
CPU Cooler: Corsair H75
GPU: GTX 780 ((or should I go 780 Ti?? Also, what make? Gigabye, Asus, EVGA...))
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance
SSD: Samsung 120GB EVO 840 Series
HDD: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm
Case: Fractal Design Node 304
PSU: Corsair CX 600M

and the peripherals

Monitor: Asus VS24AH 24" 1920x1200
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei

I'm probably buying all this in Russia, and I'm getting a price of about 1320 pounds/2200 dollars.

Any advice? Anything stupid I did? Anything is appreciated. Thanks.


I have that case btw. Might be a tight fit for the GPU. Everything else should be fine, I think. Not certain about the water cooler, I use a 3rd party air CPU cooler which fits but it barely. I use a semi-modular PSU so yours should be fine. I have the same HDD and a SSD, should be fine. You can make space by using only one of the drive holders so you could potentially fit the GPU just make sure it's not too long. RAM probably should be only 2 channels so make sure you have that but not sure why you want 16GB, you'd have to work very hard to max out even 8GB. I use quite a lot of resources and I think I only just manage to get close. Your choice though. Otherwise, yes, a H87 or H81 mobo would be the way to go.

Oh, and yeah, there's rarely a point in getting i7. Most people get i5 because it does the job and i7 adds no extra benefits for them. I believe it's good for video editing and stuff like that because of the hyperthreading but for most people it's pointless.
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How does everyone utilise their hard drives when they buy new ones? I have a 256GB SSD for my OS so that's unimportant, I'll do nothing new with that. I also have a 2TB drive which is for storage and is mostly filled with videos. It's almost full, so soon I'll probably get a 3TB drive. The problem is I'm not quite sure how to go about filling it. I thought I'd switch straight over to using it as my main storage drive but I'm not sure whether to copy everything over, use the 2TB as backup and then over the following year fill up the rest of the 3TB drive at which point I'll have to wipe the 2TB drive and start using it as my secondary storage drive. OR whether to just move all my videos over with no backups, only access the 2TB drive when I need something off of it which would probably be used much less than the 3TB drive and then once the 3TB drive is full continue to fill the 2TB drive. The concept of a backup is nice in case of hard drive failure but I like to fully utilise the space I have and since I have a mITX case and I don't have much money having backup drives isn't really a luxury I can afford. Plus I can't remember the last time a hard drive failed on me and I lost something. Must be at least 4 hard drives ago, if at all. I still have them all.
Original post by alexs2602
How does everyone utilise their hard drives when they buy new ones? I have a 256GB SSD for my OS so that's unimportant, I'll do nothing new with that. I also have a 2TB drive which is for storage and is mostly filled with videos. It's almost full, so soon I'll probably get a 3TB drive. The problem is I'm not quite sure how to go about filling it. I thought I'd switch straight over to using it as my main storage drive but I'm not sure whether to copy everything over, use the 2TB as backup and then over the following year fill up the rest of the 3TB drive at which point I'll have to wipe the 2TB drive and start using it as my secondary storage drive. OR whether to just move all my videos over with no backups, only access the 2TB drive when I need something off of it which would probably be used much less than the 3TB drive and then once the 3TB drive is full continue to fill the 2TB drive. The concept of a backup is nice in case of hard drive failure but I like to fully utilise the space I have and since I have a mITX case and I don't have much money having backup drives isn't really a luxury I can afford. Plus I can't remember the last time a hard drive failed on me and I lost something. Must be at least 4 hard drives ago, if at all. I still have them all.


Could run them in raid to increase the speed............or as a back.
I don't tend to make backups unless its for the very important stuff which are a few gb's of photos.
It's a slightly miss placed pair of questions, but:
1) Does anybody know how much better running a 4x4GB ram kit in quad channel is compared to 2x8GB (or for those limited to dual channel a 2x4 kit vs 1 8gb)?

2) What do people expect the TDP of the 800 series to be, namely 880? Given the energy efficiency of maxwell over kepler it will be no higher, but is it being predicted to be the same or lower? (So as to make a more informed decision on a new psu)

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Original post by Jammy Duel
It's a slightly miss placed pair of questions, but:
1) Does anybody know how much better running a 4x4GB ram kit in quad channel is compared to 2x8GB (or for those limited to dual channel a 2x4 kit vs 1 8gb)?

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The quad channel will be better than dual, and dual better than single. The performance increase is minimal, so unless you're doing memory intensive tasks, the single channel (or dual) is fine for a budget system. I would recommend getting the dual (quad) channel if you can afford it and have the space.

If you plan to upgrade, better get the 1x 8 GB option, it'll give you less speed in the short run, but a cheaper upgrade.


Firstly spec it's fine......however avoid pcpartpicker, its inconsistent, outdated, not always the best price, doesn't include p+p.....

Also consider a different cpu cooler...
Mobo is good, but don't overspend on features you won't use...asus suite software is good.
Get Low profile ram...
The power supply is overkill...

But do check out the parts individually on amazon, etc by yourself as you could get a better deal for example gtx770 http://www.dabs.com/products/best-value-palit-geforce-gtx-770-1085mhz-2gb-gddr5-pci-e-3-0-hdmi-oc-90PN.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc%20product%20search&utm_content=Q200&utm_campaign=Components%20and%20Storage%20-%20Graphics,%20TV%20Tuners%20and%20I/O%20-%20Graphics

And try to keep the number of suppliers to the minimum preferably one or two.

For the fans, look at the Corsair fans AF or SF series
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Original post by Iqbal007
Firstly spec it's fine......however avoid pcpartpicker, its inconsistent, outdated, not always the best price, doesn't include p+p.....

Also consider a different cpu cooler... Which cpu cooler do you suggest?
Mobo is good, but don't overspend on features you won't use...asus suite software is good. the only reason i'm getting this mobo is due to the 4way optimisation feature
Get Low profile ram... Which do you suggest?
The power supply is overkill... Which power supply do you suggest ?

But do check out the parts individually on amazon, etc by yourself as you could get a better deal for example gtx770 http://www.dabs.com/products/best-value-palit-geforce-gtx-770-1085mhz-2gb-gddr5-pci-e-3-0-hdmi-oc-90PN.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc%20product%20search&utm_content=Q200&utm_campaign=Components%20and%20Storage%20-%20Graphics,%20TV%20Tuners%20and%20I/O%20-%20Graphics

is there any different between the above and the asus gtx 770 ?

And try to keep the number of suppliers to the minimum preferably one or two yeah true but that is hard to do .



For the fans, look at the Corsair fans AF or SF series what is the difference between the ones I have chosen?


Thank you
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Original post by khanpatel321
Thank you


Have a look at the CoolerMaster Hyper series, consider looking at reviews online, forgot the site, but there are some which highlight the temp difference on the same system.

Well you could overclock manually.

Corsair Venegance also come in a low profile version.

Considering everything, about 650watts or so and just pick a decent maker.

Possibly, but temperature/overclocking ability, easily can be googled.

It's not check amazon, scan or ebuyer....

It's quite pricey for a single fan in my opinion..
There isn't a great deal that I want for my birthday (which has been or gone, but will be celebrating it properly when I get home from university), but I could do with a new case, and will be getting a new psu too. Going modular and looking at being ready for upgrading come 800 series.
Given the lower power consumption of maxwell and that 860W is about sufficient for my rig running 2x 780Ti (using them in calculators as substitute cards), do you guys think should I be fine getting a 860W platinum or go for a 1000W gold to be on the safe side and to sit in a better place on the efficiency curve?
Original post by Iqbal007
Have a look at the CoolerMaster Hyper series, consider looking at reviews online, forgot the site, but there are some which highlight the temp difference on the same system.

Are the cooler master known to be better than the noctua fans? What do you think of this fan?

http://www.ebuyer.com/gateway.php?tag=86a3608375fd386ffd38c073a00ac634&affid=127079&affname=PCPartPicker&awc=2690_1401293353_e97336d82266006297ac52c2f7701aef
Well you could overclock manually. true, what other mobo do you suggest?

Corsair Venegance also come in a low profile version. are the low profile the ones without the heat sinks?

Considering everything, about 650watts or so and just pick a decent maker.
what do you think of this one http://www.ebuyer.com/472700-evga-supernova-nex650g-gold-650w-psu-120-pg-0650-gr

Possibly, but temperature/overclocking ability, easily can be googled.

I think i'll just stick with the asus as it is a known brand but i'll do more research comparing the two

It's not check amazon, scan or ebuyer....
yeah true

It's quite pricey for a single fan in my opinion..
yeah true i'll check the ones you suggested out


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Original post by khanpatel321
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Well it depends honestly, the noctua fan you were looking at isn't the best on that price point, you can even pick up a low end water cooling unit or a hyper cooler 412s.

Just have a look around, but Asus are probably the best, but you could save some money and add that money to the gpu budget.

No, low profile means the heatsinks are a lot smaller in size, this is to prevent blocking the cooler from fitting in.

The PSU is fine, though again, anything bronze or higher certified is fine. Just need to make sure the connections it offers is good enough for use currently and in the future.
Original post by Iqbal007
Well it depends honestly, the noctua fan you were looking at isn't the best on that price point, you can even pick up a low end water cooling unit or a hyper cooler 412s.

Just have a look around, but Asus are probably the best, but you could save some money and add that money to the gpu budget.

No, low profile means the heatsinks are a lot smaller in size, this is to prevent blocking the cooler from fitting in.

The PSU is fine, though again, anything bronze or higher certified is fine. Just need to make sure the connections it offers is good enough for use currently and in the future.


After talking to someone on TSR I have taken a u-turn. What do you think of this build?

The ability to overclock is there if it is is ever needed and after talking to someone there is no real need.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DzfqhM
Hi there, friendly computer people! I'm in need of some PC advice.

My current PC is getting a little old and dodgy on me, and so I'm on the hunt for a new one. I've been looking around but I can't seem to find a ready-made PC that caters to my gaming/working needs and I most certainly don't have the time (nor can I be bothered, frankly) to buy my own parts in and build it myself.

Recently, I came across pcspecialist.co.uk and was wondering if anyone has had any experience buying from them before, and if so, would they recommend their service?

Now, as well as an opinion on PCspecialt's reputation, I'm after advice on the build I've gone for. I'm a fairly active gamer when I'm not busy with school work (which won't be an issue after the 22nd :cool:) so I was looking for a nice gaming build but also something that will be good for when I start university later this year.

Here's the build: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/paaCmBL3Bj/

I'd be grateful with any sort of advice, really.. Whether or not I'm needlessly spending money or whether I'm being ripped of and that I'd be better somewhere else, y'know that sort of think.

Thanks guys :h:

EDIT: I guess it's worth mentioning that the price comes to £736.67 ex VAT and £884.00 inc VAT. I think it says the price somewhere but I just thought I'd stick it in anyway :tongue:
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Original post by lebron_23
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Budget? Specific games/applications? Resolution of current monitor?

What makes you think building a computer is time consuming? Too all of 3 hours for my first one and I can now do a full build in about an hour. Only reason I suggest it is you complain of finding a suitable machine, buying parts gives you absolute control and tbh much better quality.
Original post by lebron_23
Hi there, friendly computer people! I'm in need of some PC advice.

My current PC is getting a little old and dodgy on me, and so I'm on the hunt for a new one. I've been looking around but I can't seem to find a ready-made PC that caters to my gaming/working needs and I most certainly don't have the time (nor can I be bothered, frankly) to buy my own parts in and build it myself.

Recently, I came across pcspecialist.co.uk and was wondering if anyone has had any experience buying from them before, and if so, would they recommend their service?

Now, as well as an opinion on PCspecialt's reputation, I'm after advice on the build I've gone for. I'm a fairly active gamer when I'm not busy with school work (which won't be an issue after the 22nd :cool:) so I was looking for a nice gaming build but also something that will be good for when I start university later this year.

Here's the build: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/paaCmBL3Bj/

I'd be grateful with any sort of advice, really.. Whether or not I'm needlessly spending money or whether I'm being ripped of and that I'd be better somewhere else, y'know that sort of think.

Thanks guys :h:

EDIT: I guess it's worth mentioning that the price comes to £736.67 ex VAT and £884.00 inc VAT. I think it says the price somewhere but I just thought I'd stick it in anyway :tongue:

You definitely need to change your RAM, you have 2GB there and I somehow doubt that's going to be enough.
It could be beneficial to get the 4GB 770 instead of 2GB if within your budget
You might want to consider an after market CPU cooler instead of the intel stock cooler
do you actually need the card reader? If not, that can go. The same could be said of the optical drive, but I personally like to have one anyway (always nice to pick up a new game cheap of amazon compared to steam and would rather not wait all day for the download)
Unless getting a matx case it might be better to look at the z97-A mobo instead in case you want to SLI at a later date
Given how cheap HDDs are I would go for a higher capacity, and given SSDs are cheaper now maybe get a SSD for your boot drive
And have you checked that the PSU is sufficient and gives a bit of headroom?

And you will almost certainly get a better deal putting the time in yourself to buy the parts and build it.
Original post by Jammy Duel
You definitely need to change your RAM, you have 2GB there and I somehow doubt that's going to be enough.
It could be beneficial to get the 4GB 770 instead of 2GB if within your budget
You might want to consider an after market CPU cooler instead of the intel stock cooler
do you actually need the card reader? If not, that can go. The same could be said of the optical drive, but I personally like to have one anyway (always nice to pick up a new game cheap of amazon compared to steam and would rather not wait all day for the download)
Unless getting a matx case it might be better to look at the z97-A mobo instead in case you want to SLI at a later date
Given how cheap HDDs are I would go for a higher capacity, and given SSDs are cheaper now maybe get a SSD for your boot drive
And have you checked that the PSU is sufficient and gives a bit of headroom?

And you will almost certainly get a better deal putting the time in yourself to buy the parts and build it.


Oops sorry, that was my mistake. I had the RAM as 8GB, don't know why it shows as 2GB.

Thank you for your input. I've had a look over what you said, and asked around, and I've come up with a revised build. Here it is:

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/xYSDI_OamJ/

Also, as a quick reference, here's a puush of the main stuff http://puu.sh/9fjRY/da4b8f1567.png

Thanks again!!
Hi,

Can someone give me an update on the current pc market?

It's been a while since I built my last and I'm a bit out of the loop.

Is there any new tech/standards I should wait for before starting my build?

Thanks

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