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When do you integrate f(x) and when do you integrate f(x) dx/du du?


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Original post by Asadprince
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I would do this? Is this wrong?


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That works also presuming there are no arithmetic mistakes
Reply 1382
Hi does anyone have a list of the surface areas and volumes for every shape we need to know, i'm panicking now
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Hey everyone :biggrin: Good luck today.. Im still half scared that the exam has already passed and I got the time wrong... lol


It says International papers on the first page :smile:
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Original post by Pascal678
Let me quickly show you

dudx=secxtanx\dfrac{du}{dx}=secxtanx and v=tanxv=tanx


so let I=sec3(x)dx=secxtanxsecxtan2(x)I=\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x) dx = secxtanx-\displaystyle \int secxtan^{2}(x)

Use the fact that secxtan2(x)=secx(sec2(x)1)=sec3(x)secxsecxtan^{2}(x)=secx(sec^{2}(x)-1)=sec^{3}(x)-secx

Then realise something key here

Unparseable latex formula:

\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x)=secxtanx-\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x) dx + \displaystale \int secx dx




This leads to 2sec3(x)=secxtanx+secxdx2 \displaystyle \int sec^{3} (x) = secxtanx+ \displaystyle \int secx dx

Then divide by 2 and integrate the right hand side


for three marks though. And we have limited time... this is messed up
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Original post by Hicko
Hi does anyone have a list of the surface areas and volumes for every shape we need to know, i'm panicking now


Pretty sure its in the first page of the formula booklet... otherwise common sense
.... why ya'll creeping out for sec^3x and e^xsinx are so not gonna come.... i bet my alevel grades on that.
Original post by Hicko
Hi does anyone have a list of the surface areas and volumes for every shape we need to know, i'm panicking now



Volume of a right angled circular cone = 13πr2h\dfrac{1}{3} \pi r^{2} h

Volume of a cylinder =πr2h \pi r^{2} h

Area of a circle πr2\pi r^{2}

Surface area of a cube 6x26x^{2} where x is the length of one side of the square i.e. so x2x^{2} is the area of one square

Surface area of a cylinder 2πrh+2πr22\pi r h +2\pi r^{2}
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Original post by JesusTheDiglett
I can't find a method that doesn't use an obscure rule...


it's not too hard if you do this sin^3x is sinx(sin^2x)

sin^2x= 1- cos^2x so... integral of (1-cos^2x)sinx dx use substitution now so let u = cosx

du/dx = -sinx so du= -sinxdx take out the -1

-1 integral of (1-u^2)du

-1(u - u^3/3) sub back in the u

-cosx + cos^3x/3 + c
Original post by R2D2.
for three marks though. And we have limited time... this is messed up

Defo not 3 marks - more like 9 or 10
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Original post by Pascal678
Volume of a right angled circular cone = 13πr2h\dfrac{1}{3} \pi r^{2} h

Volume of a cylinder =πr2h \pi r^{2} h

Area of a circle πr2\pi r^{2}

Surface area of a cube 6x26x^{2} where x is the length of one side of the square i.e. so x2x^{2} is the area of one square

Surface area of a cylinder 2πrh+2πr22\pi r h +2\pi r^{2}



thank you
Original post by Pascal678
sin3(x)=sinx(sin2(x))=sinx(1cos2(x))=sinxsinxcos2(x)sin^{3}(x)=sinx(sin^{2}(x))=sinx(1-cos^{2}(x))=sinx-sinxcos^{2}(x)


Could you just post one full solution please? There's so many


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In this exam, we may forget our maths, we may forget our names, we may forget how to differentiate, hell, we may even forget to do question 9. But we shall never forget to do +C
Original post by walkers38
.... why ya'll creeping out for sec^3x and e^xsinx are so not gonna come.... i bet my alevel grades on that.

Expect the worse :colone:
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Original post by Pascal678
Let me quickly show you

dudx=secxtanx\dfrac{du}{dx}=secxtanx and v=tanxv=tanx


so let I=sec3(x)dx=secxtanxsecxtan2(x)I=\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x) dx = secxtanx-\displaystyle \int secxtan^{2}(x)

Use the fact that secxtan2(x)=secx(sec2(x)1)=sec3(x)secxsecxtan^{2}(x)=secx(sec^{2}(x)-1)=sec^{3}(x)-secx

Then realise something key here

Unparseable latex formula:

\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x)=secxtanx-\displaystyle \int sec^{3}(x) dx + \displaystale \int secx dx




This leads to 2sec3(x)=secxtanx+secxdx2 \displaystyle \int sec^{3} (x) = secxtanx+ \displaystyle \int secx dx

Then divide by 2 and integrate the right hand side

is this question in one of the c4 past papers
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In this exam, we may forget our maths, we may forget our names, we may forget how to differentiate, hell, we may even forget to do question 9. But we shall never forget to do +C


On this day, Vithu09 told a big lie, since I always forget +C

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Original post by Mutleybm1996
Could you just post one full solution please? There's so many


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This was my method:

it's not too hard if you do this sin^3x is sinx(sin^2x)

sin^2x= 1- cos^2x so... integral of (1-cos^2x)sinx dx use substitution now so let u = cosx

du/dx = -sinx so du= -sinxdx take out the -1

-1 integral of (1-u^2)du

-1(u - u^3/3) sub back in the u

-cosx + cos^3x/3 + c
Hello, I wish you happiness and well-being.

I'm gonna' flop this paper, FLOP IT LIKE IT'S HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Original post by ArgieBargy
On this day, Vithu09 told a big lie, since I always forget +C

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do we get penalized if we don't write +C, i thought that was only in c2 we wouldn't get the mark :frown:

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