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The Wire

Hey, well I haven't actually finished the Wire yet, just finished season 4 and am going to start season 5 sometime soon. Was wondering what makes the Wire soooo good for everyone? I agree that the acting, story line etc. is great but is it really that amazing? I am also a bit put off due to the amount of politics in it as I don't really enjoy politics. Some of the finales have been top class though and hope season 5 is as good as season 4.

Thank you, and keep the spoilers to a minimum please :smile:

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I could literally write an essay on why I love The Wire. To me it's the most brilliantly interwoven story on TV. Although McNulty is kind of a focal point, he isn't like the main character/protagonist. Almost all the characters are significant and each of them is so unlike other characters on other shows. Stringer Bell is like a gangster Warren Buffet in the making, Bunk is a guy who while silly and drunk half the time, actually gives a crap about his city, Brother Mouzone is like Godzilla in the body of a small black man, and Omar is just a breakthough in characters.

Ok I'm probs a little biased but the little attention to details, fantastic writing, and how real it feels really blows me away each time I rewatch it. I personally hate politics but The Wire really got me engrossed in how it all works, that in itself is a milestone :P
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The Wire is simply the best show ever made.

It might sound as if I'm exaggerating, but out of all the TV shows I've seen (and I have seen a great many shows in their entirety), it is the only show that I consider decent. I do not respect any other show apart from The Wire. I like to watch plenty of TV shows all the time, I'm constantly watching different types of shows all across the spectrum. Mostly just to fill time, I get bored every easily. I find plenty of shows to be enjoyable, I don't completely hate everything that's not The Wire.

For example, I've enjoyed watching episodes and scenes from shows like Breaking Bad, Dexter, Battlestar Galactica, Prison Break, Walking Dead, CSI, NCIS, Monk, Psych, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Reaper, Sopranos, and many more. But I consider all of these shows to be...well, trashy. That's the only way to describe them. The problem with all of these shows is that they're very inconsistent. They have some really nice episodes, but they're far and few between. For every decent episode, there are 5 to 10 filler episodes which are trashy and boring. These shows tend to have very low quality writing. The story just isn't very engaging. It's okay for passing time, but it doesn't amaze me, I forget about it as soon as I'm finished watching.

Let me just talk about Breaking Bad a little bit more. This show had some epic episodes. But the vast majority of the episodes were filler trash, really boring stuff. And you can clearly tell that the writing is terrible. The plot is completely unrealistic and unbelievable. The plot frequently goes through major confusing twists which only serve to make the show more ridiculous. The series finale was the final nail in the coffin - one of the worst episodes of any TV show I have ever seen. Completely unbelievable, unrealistic, absurd, and just completely uninteresting. What a fitting way to kill off a trashy show.

This is a common problem among most shows nowadays. Shows contain way too many plot twists and murders. The writers mistakenly keep thinking that by increasing the complexity of the story and adding more murders and creating more changes in the plot, that this will make the show better. Wrong. It doesn't. The only thing that can make a show good is high quality writing. And a well written story doesn't need to kill 4 characters each episode and introduce a new subplot and change in the story each episode. No, no, no. That's why Breaking Bad is trash.

Now lets talk about The Wire. The Wire...a true masterpiece. I've watched it multiple times. I cannot emphasise just how amazing this show is. It would be an understatement just to say that it's ten times better than everything else. An exceptionally well written show. It's still just a TV show, so I don't want to say that it's realistic...but compared to every other show that I've seen, I have to say it's a 100 times more believable than anything else I've seen. For instance, you'll never see 2 characters holding each other at gunpoint and having a cheesy 5 minute conversation where they're each coming up with witty quotable remarks. The show doesn't need to kill off a few people each episode to make the plot exciting and interesting. That's the thing about The Wire...it's completely different from all the other trashy shows. You'll never see a character in The Wire take out a whole group of adversaries in a room using a blind firing machine gun situated outside the room. Lol, you'll never see such a silly thing!

Another thing about The Wire: it doesn't have any cheesy music playing in the background. That's how amazing the show is! It doesn't need any cheesy dramatic devices. The only music you will hear in The Wire is the main theme in each episode, the occasional gangsta rap blasting from the car stereo of some drug dealer, and a nice little soundtrack lasting just a few minutes in each season finale episode. That's it!! It just goes to show how strong and how well written the story is. The characters don't need cheesy, witty remarks. No cheesy music is needed. The show is very raw like that. That's how great the writing is.

The Wire hardly contains any filler material at all. And the filler scenes aren't too long or boring. Every single episode is decent, I can't pick a single weak episode. That's another thing I love about the show - its consistency. No other show is as consistent as The Wire. It doesn't serve up any BS. It doesn't conform to the standard Hollywood formula. It's original, unique, gritty, and completely different from any other show. So much so that for a few weeks after I finished watching The Wire for the first time, I found it very hard to sit through other TV shows. After you watch The Wire, you realise how far it is above everything else, I immediately realised that everything else that I had been watching was trash. I just sit there watching Breaking Bad laughing and shaking my head, but I was very bored so I just sat and watched it.

There has never been and never will be anything like The Wire. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. On the one hand, it's an amazing show, easily 100 times better than every other show ever made. But I find it very hard to believe that no one else has ever been able to create a show and write a story to match the quality we saw from The Wire. How hard can it really be? I'm tired of watching countless trashy shows like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.

Cheers.
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Original post by alexschmalex
I could literally write an essay on why I love The Wire. To me it's the most brilliantly interwoven story on TV. Although McNulty is kind of a focal point, he isn't like the main character/protagonist. Almost all the characters are significant and each of them is so unlike other characters on other shows. Stringer Bell is like a gangster Warren Buffet in the making, Bunk is a guy who while silly and drunk half the time, actually gives a crap about his city, Brother Mouzone is like Godzilla in the body of a small black man, and Omar is just a breakthough in characters.

Ok I'm probs a little biased but the little attention to details, fantastic writing, and how real it feels really blows me away each time I rewatch it. I personally hate politics but The Wire really got me engrossed in how it all works, that in itself is a milestone :P


I completely agree with this. I can't overstate how amazing the show is. It's hard to go into it in great detail, there are about a 1000 things I can list which make the show so unbelievably brilliant and better than everything else. I can't pick a favourite character. I can't pick a favourite episode. I can't pick a favourite season. The show is bang on 100% consistent, just pure high quality writing all the way from start to finish.

I might be able to pick a few of my favourite characters - Bodie, Marlo, Bunk, Omar, Ziggy, Carcetti, Kima, Herc, Stinkum (of course), Prop Joe...but the list doesn't end there. It's hard to pick a favourite charcater. The characters are mostly all brilliant.

And Landsman! lol what a legend.
I am half way through season 5. Hope to finish it this week :smile: It has been truly amazing.
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Absolutely brilliant analysis of The Wire



Great to see two like-minded souls who share the same appreciation for iy

It really is just extraordinary , if you're looking for the absolute definition of character development then you'll find it perfectly exhibited in this show.

I could go on for ages but Season 3 and 4 are absolutely extraordinary no other season of any show comes close.

It cannot be accurately articulated the level at which the writing is on it.

The Wire is the best show ever made and I wonder if it will ever be topped.

"Deserve got nuthin' to do with it"
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Finished it yesterday evening :biggrin:

Truly amazing, is all that I can say.

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Forever one of the greatest things ever FILMED let alone put on TV
The Wire is ****ing amazing. I've watched it twice completely and have just finished the second viewing about a month ago.

For me it stands out as the best tv show because unlike its contenders; the sopranos, breaking bad etc it doesn't have that soap-like feel. Ive watched both the sopranos and BB yet the wire reigns supreme; the character development and grittiness of the whole affair is what shines through.

In particular having watched the sopranos and breaking bad I get the sense that the wire is simply faster moving and much less boring than the others; for instance in the sopranos season 1 truly drags and sets the stage for six or so seasons of internal mafia politics. Dont get me wrong, I love the sopranos but this, compared to the wire, simply doesn't compare.

All in all I just simply love the realism, simplicity and passion that is the wire. Special shout out to my favourite characters!: Ellis Carver, Major Bill Rawls, Stan Valchek (he's such an *******, you have to love him!), Maurice Levy, Prop Joe, Stringer Bell, Omar Little, Frank Sobotka, Bodie, Herc, Jay Landsman and Bunk!

.......damn I want to watch the wire again, damn you! Haha


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Original post by Stinkum
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The Wire is simply the best show ever made.

It might sound as if I'm exaggerating, but out of all the TV shows I've seen (and I have seen a great many shows in their entirety), it is the only show that I consider decent. I do not respect any other show apart from The Wire. I like to watch plenty of TV shows all the time, I'm constantly watching different types of shows all across the spectrum. Mostly just to fill time, I get bored every easily. I find plenty of shows to be enjoyable, I don't completely hate everything that's not The Wire.

For example, I've enjoyed watching episodes and scenes from shows like Breaking Bad, Dexter, Battlestar Galactica, Prison Break, Walking Dead, CSI, NCIS, Monk, Psych, Game of Thrones, Sons of Anarchy, Reaper, Sopranos, and many more. But I consider all of these shows to be...well, trashy. That's the only way to describe them. The problem with all of these shows is that they're very inconsistent. They have some really nice episodes, but they're far and few between. For every decent episode, there are 5 to 10 filler episodes which are trashy and boring. These shows tend to have very low quality writing. The story just isn't very engaging. It's okay for passing time, but it doesn't amaze me, I forget about it as soon as I'm finished watching.

Let me just talk about Breaking Bad a little bit more. This show had some epic episodes. But the vast majority of the episodes were filler trash, really boring stuff. And you can clearly tell that the writing is terrible. The plot is completely unrealistic and unbelievable. The plot frequently goes through major confusing twists which only serve to make the show more ridiculous. The series finale was the final nail in the coffin - one of the worst episodes of any TV show I have ever seen. Completely unbelievable, unrealistic, absurd, and just completely uninteresting. What a fitting way to kill off a trashy show.

This is a common problem among most shows nowadays. Shows contain way too many plot twists and murders. The writers mistakenly keep thinking that by increasing the complexity of the story and adding more murders and creating more changes in the plot, that this will make the show better. Wrong. It doesn't. The only thing that can make a show good is high quality writing. And a well written story doesn't need to kill 4 characters each episode and introduce a new subplot and change in the story each episode. No, no, no. That's why Breaking Bad is trash.

Now lets talk about The Wire. The Wire...a true masterpiece. I've watched it multiple times. I cannot emphasise just how amazing this show is. It would be an understatement just to say that it's ten times better than everything else. An exceptionally well written show. It's still just a TV show, so I don't want to say that it's realistic...but compared to every other show that I've seen, I have to say it's a 100 times more believable than anything else I've seen. For instance, you'll never see 2 characters holding each other at gunpoint and having a cheesy 5 minute conversation where they're each coming up with witty quotable remarks. The show doesn't need to kill off a few people each episode to make the plot exciting and interesting. That's the thing about The Wire...it's completely different from all the other trashy shows. You'll never see a character in The Wire take out a whole group of adversaries in a room using a blind firing machine gun situated outside the room. Lol, you'll never see such a silly thing!

Another thing about The Wire: it doesn't have any cheesy music playing in the background. That's how amazing the show is! It doesn't need any cheesy dramatic devices. The only music you will hear in The Wire is the main theme in each episode, the occasional gangsta rap blasting from the car stereo of some drug dealer, and a nice little soundtrack lasting just a few minutes in each season finale episode. That's it!! It just goes to show how strong and how well written the story is. The characters don't need cheesy, witty remarks. No cheesy music is needed. The show is very raw like that. That's how great the writing is.

The Wire hardly contains any filler material at all. And the filler scenes aren't too long or boring. Every single episode is decent, I can't pick a single weak episode. That's another thing I love about the show - its consistency. No other show is as consistent as The Wire. It doesn't serve up any BS. It doesn't conform to the standard Hollywood formula. It's original, unique, gritty, and completely different from any other show. So much so that for a few weeks after I finished watching The Wire for the first time, I found it very hard to sit through other TV shows. After you watch The Wire, you realise how far it is above everything else, I immediately realised that everything else that I had been watching was trash. I just sit there watching Breaking Bad laughing and shaking my head, but I was very bored so I just sat and watched it.

There has never been and never will be anything like The Wire. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing. On the one hand, it's an amazing show, easily 100 times better than every other show ever made. But I find it very hard to believe that no one else has ever been able to create a show and write a story to match the quality we saw from The Wire. How hard can it really be? I'm tired of watching countless trashy shows like Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.

Cheers.

From what I've seen, I can agree that the wire is good, though I wouldn't go so far as to call everything else "trash". Also, isn't Season 5 supposed to be a bit crap, at least compared to earlier ones?
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Original post by Stinkum







For instance, you'll never see 2 characters holding each other at gunpoint and having a cheesy 5 minute conversation where they're each coming up with witty quotable remarks. The show doesn't need to kill off a few people each episode to make the plot exciting and interesting. That's the thing about The Wire...it's completely different from all the other trashy shows. You'll never see a character in The Wire take out a whole group of adversaries in a room using a blind firing machine gun situated outside the room. Lol, you'll never see such a silly thing!


I think there's some elements that are a bit unrealistic. For instance, when Omar robs the Barksdale gang in S1 E3, he's able to rob about 4 or 5 gang members (at least), with only two guys to back him up, yet the Barksdale underlings don't think to attack Omar, even though he's clearly outnumbered. It's still a good scene, just not an overly realistic one in my view
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Original post by scjman
I think there's some elements that are a bit unrealistic. For instance, when Omar robs the Barksdale gang in S1 E3, he's able to rob about 4 or 5 gang members (at least), with only two guys to back him up, yet the Barksdale underlings don't think to attack Omar, even though he's clearly outnumbered. It's still a good scene, just not an overly realistic one in my view


Like I said, I wouldn't say it's realistic, it's still just a TV show at the end of the day. But it's mostly believable. The particular scene you describe isn't unrealistic at all. Omar spends long days and nights scoping out the stash house before he hits it. He catches them unprepared and off guard, he comes in blasting with the sawed off and immediately fires off a shell, immediately he gains control of that room and every one inside it. In that situation, Omar and his crew easily outgunned and dominated the Barksdale bangers. I don't really see much of a problem with that. The Barksdale crew were very scared, I think a couple of them were quite young. they were caught by surprise and completely unprepared, they didn't have a chance to do anything at all.
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Original post by scjman
From what I've seen, I can agree that the wire is good, though I wouldn't go so far as to call everything else "trash". Also, isn't Season 5 supposed to be a bit crap, at least compared to earlier ones?


I strongly believe everything else is trash. After watching the wire, I realised this. And only after watching the wire did i see that. It's a bit harsh to compare everything to the wire, but the show just set the bar so ridiculously high that everything else instantly became trash. I still watch plenty of tv shows, but only to pass time, they are trash. For example, game of thrones is really trashy, i haven't even bothered to watch any episodes from the latest season, just a really trashy show.

The main reason I think the wire turned out so good is because the writers weren't complete idiots. they worked hard to write a really strong show. the writing is just...superb. and that's a huge understatement. i simply can't stress enough how exceptional the quality of the writing is. every single other show has really weak and lazy writing.

I mentioned it before, but the music is a very important aspect of the show. Note how there is absolutely NO background music or soundtrack playing except for music that's physically being played by the characters, and there's just a little soundtrack in each season finale, that's it. Even though it might seem like a minor thing, it goes to show how strong the show is, and how confident the writers were in the quality of the writing.

The show is NEVER cheesy, not even once. It can get a little confusing, sometimes a little disgusting. But never cheesy.

I wouldn't call season 5 crap. Like I said, EVERY SINGLE EPISODE in the entire series is excellent. The show is perfectly consistent, truly a flawless show. Season 1 is amazing. Season 2 is mind blowing. Season 3 is exceptional. Season 4 is unbelievably superb. Season 5 is extremely good.
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Original post by mad-marek
The Wire is ****ing amazing. I've watched it twice completely and have just finished the second viewing about a month ago.

For me it stands out as the best tv show because unlike its contenders; the sopranos, breaking bad etc it doesn't have that soap-like feel. Ive watched both the sopranos and BB yet the wire reigns supreme; the character development and grittiness of the whole affair is what shines through.

In particular having watched the sopranos and breaking bad I get the sense that the wire is simply faster moving and much less boring than the others; for instance in the sopranos season 1 truly drags and sets the stage for six or so seasons of internal mafia politics. Dont get me wrong, I love the sopranos but this, compared to the wire, simply doesn't compare.

All in all I just simply love the realism, simplicity and passion that is the wire. Special shout out to my favourite characters!: Ellis Carver, Major Bill Rawls, Stan Valchek (he's such an *******, you have to love him!), Maurice Levy, Prop Joe, Stringer Bell, Omar Little, Frank Sobotka, Bodie, Herc, Jay Landsman and Bunk!

.......damn I want to watch the wire again, damn you! Haha


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I COMPLETELY agree with this, especially the bits highlighted in bold. Great post!!
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Original post by TM94
Absolutely brilliant analysis of The Wire



Great to see two like-minded souls who share the same appreciation for iy

It really is just extraordinary , if you're looking for the absolute definition of character development then you'll find it perfectly exhibited in this show.

I could go on for ages but Season 3 and 4 are absolutely extraordinary no other season of any show comes close.

It cannot be accurately articulated the level at which the writing is on it.

The Wire is the best show ever made and I wonder if it will ever be topped.


"Deserve got nuthin' to do with it"


Man, I completely agree with this. It's impossible to state just how great the show is. It's not enough just to say that it's supreme and better than every other show ever created. Hard to describe it, you just have to watch it.

Also, LOL at Snoop's quote!!! Gotta love Snoop, great character, brilliant quote. "How my hair look, Mike?" lol
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Original post by Stinkum
Man, I completely agree with this. It's impossible to state just how great the show is. It's not enough just to say that it's supreme and better than every other show ever created. Hard to describe it, you just have to watch it.

Also, LOL at Snoop's quote!!! Gotta love Snoop, great character, brilliant quote. "How my hair look, Mike?" lol


"You look good girl"


To pick up on of your points, I wouldn't go as far to say other shows are 'trash'.

The Wire is clearly superior but the Sopranos is undoubtedly brilliant, Mad Men is beautifully composed and True Detective is deliciously dark.
Original post by Stinkum
Gotta love Snoop, great character, brilliant quote. "How my hair look, Mike?" lol


That scene just shows how dire the sitatuation is within the wire - reminds me of when poor Prop Joe wants to simple slip away but that B@stard Marlo won't let him, I love and hate that scene.
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Original post by mad-marek
That scene just shows how dire the sitatuation is within the wire - reminds me of when poor Prop Joe wants to simple slip away but that B@stard Marlo won't let him, I love and hate that scene.


yeah, prop joe's last scene was extremely disturbing. marlo is an animal, completely dehumanised, it definitely shows the dire situation for those characters. Snoop didn't expect it at all, but Mike was smart, it was either him or her and he got the drop on her. Man, those 2 scenes, just...beyond brilliant, you can never see anything like that on any other tv show.
Pretty off topic but I just finished watching Oz and it's AWESOME! A bunch of the cast from The Wire have roles in it, you guys might wanna check it out :smile: Now that I've watched Oz I'm gonna go through my 3rd rewatch of The Wire, can't get enough of it

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