The Arsenal Thread XX

why are man united in for Vidal and we're not? If this bs of no such thing as a proper DM is true, then we should be in for this guy. One of the best B2B midfielders out there. Sanchez and Wenger do the ting man.

Khedira doesn't play like a defensive midfielder at Madrid, but if you look at his stats from the 2012/2013 season he makes tackles, intercepts, and wins aerial duels more often than not. The major issue with Flamini and Arteta is the defensive errors they make (Arteta in particular), and lack of a physical presence (Arteta loses more aerial duels than he wins). Some of you are making it out as if he will give no protection to the back four whatsoever?

He hardly made any interceptions in 12-13. The only time in his career that he has looked even remotely like a DM is 10-11. Look at his stats and then compare them to someone like Schneiderlin, factor in the fee and wages, and you will see why I am so against signing him.

When is Walcott back?

I said we would rather have him but we will not get him, if you had been following the stories properly you would know that.

Alonso is the player with most defensive responsibilities in Madrid, so obviously Khedira will only average one interception a game (which isn't uncommon for most box to box midfielders in fact). I don't understand why you keep citing his stats and then saying "he's not a DM" - we know? We are arguing that a double-pivot with Ramsey and a more conservative Khedira could work, and it will definately be an upgrade to Arteta.

Again, people underestimate the defensive capabilities of Ramsey. He boasts similar defensive stats to Vidal yet if we had a Vidal-Khedira double-pivot no one would question the transfer.

lmao so there never was any talks with Khedira or his agent about a transfer

just tells you to call bull**** on every single rumour until you see the player in a shirt

lmao so there never was any talks with Khedira or his agent about a transfer

just tells you to call bull**** on every single rumour until you see the player in a shirt

sauce?

tommy will be gutted

​Agents talk bs all day long, it's their job.

Jesus Christ. If it's not "if you watched football" it's "if you read stories". As I've said, I do. At no point in my previous post did I say Arsenal should sign Schneiderlin, I just said if you compare his stats to Khedira's you won't find anything to suggest that Khedira will be effective in a deeper role. He is expensive and he's not the player Arsenal need. I would much rather make do with Arteta than spend huge money on a player whose role isn't really known. Do you have anything to suggest that it will "most definitely be an upgrade to Arteta"?

A lot of people would question the transfer given, especially considering that Khedira wants more money than Ozil and Sanchez. Even if you put footballing ability to one side for a second, do you really think Khedira is as marketable as those two?

And your point about Ramsey is valid, but it raises the question of who pushes forward in this double-pivot? Leaving Ramsey sitting in an Alonso like role would not only be a risk but also a complete waste of his attacking ability, while leaving Khedira sitting back carries immense risk for the reasons I've highlighted. I would take Khedira at the right price, but that's much, much lower than Arsenal will be able to get him for.

lmao so there never was any talks with Khedira or his agent about a transfer

just tells you to call bull**** on every single rumour until you see the player in a shirt

Usually to raise the price and bargaining position of their client, in which case saying that Arsenal/Chelsea are not involved with him would be counter productive.