Time for Erik Ten Hag to be sacked?

Manchester United out of Carabao Cup, Champions League only have the FA Cup as silverware to fight for. 6 points adrift from the Top 4 and don’t look like finishing within the Top 4 let alone Top 5 for next season champions league is it time for Erik Ten Hag to get the sack? And who would you want to replace him with?

Manchester will never be the glory team it was in the past, no matter whether Ten Haag gets sacked and replaced.

Definitely need a new set of owners a full sale required then implementing a board and a group of people with a structure and plan put to place people that are of football knowledge, know how and background before a new infrastructure in stadium and facilities and money being spent wisely on £15,000,000/£20,000,000 player investment before going onto making a resale in value and profit like the Ajax, Benfica, Borussia Dortmund, Monaco. And the trust in building a team around youth and academy based players.

Definitely need a new set of owners a full sale required then implementing a board and a group of people with a structure and plan put to place people that are of football knowledge, know how and background before a new infrastructure in stadium and facilities and money being spent wisely on £15,000,000/£20,000,000 player investment before going onto making a resale in value and profit like the Ajax, Benfica, Borussia Dortmund, Monaco. And the trust in building a team around youth and academy based players.

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i think we should sell rashford, build our team around the youngsters like Garna, Licha, Pellestri and then you got some experienced players like Varane, Casemiro. bruno's a liability but not as much as Anthony and Rashford. ALSO MARTIAL - he just keeps getting injured so why are we keeping him?? WE HAVE TOO MANY BENCHWARMERS. we need guys who live for the club and will do something about our losing streaks - like Roy Keane. players who wont watch us get dragged through the mud. GLAZERS OUT

Your choice of manager if you had to choose

Ten Hag is a slightly above average Eredvisie manager but he is not the main issue with Utd, obviously.

The question is where Utd go from here? Needless to say the owners are 100% the main issue but like much in society, apathy and decay is all around the place. The fans dont really care, nor do any senior management by the looks of it. Decay and a lack of genuine energy to change the course of things is the main issue, not Ten Hag,

I predict another decade or so of the same, maybe a few cups along the way but nothing major. Down the line, a young manager might come along and things will improve. But there is so much structurally wrong at Utd all the way from the top it is hard to see it. It's such a huge mamoth of a club that restructuring it is basically a 5 year project but the fans demand crap £100m players every season. You cant really do both. So what would need to happen is a genuine visionary manager who builds the club up step by step but this is not a 2 year thing and new managers wont last long enough. That's not just an issue for Utd btw, it's pretty common everywhere but just moreso at Utd.

Alternatively, Utd just get lucky and the £100m galactico signings continue, except they are legit and Utd just stumble upon a world class squad. Guardiola leaves and maybe Utd win the league and stumble on a new little era. But it would be pure luck. Throw enough **** at the wall and something will stick. At least you would assume so but Utd and Chelsea are both trying that "strategy"

Are the owners really 100% of the issue? You look at Man Utd's net spend over the last decade and they are near the top. They have more money to spend on transfer fees and wages than almost all their rivals. Fine we might not expect them to beat Man City to every trophy but the last decade has been awful.

Its more than money but strategy and vision.

If it was money then Chelsea would win the title wouldnt they?

Building a winning team is hard, you need to resist the impulse to just appear the mob with $$$ signings and have a longer term vision. Utd have no vision, have had no vision and dont look like they know where to start. But the brand doesnt look like its suffering. Liverpool in the 90s were nowhere close and when they came back in the 00s seemed to be largely unaffected. Arsenal were poor 2008-2022 and similar. So Utd probably will come back but it doesnt look like it will be any time soon.

Well Man City have strategy and vision but it's not the Abu Dhabi owners who decide what and how to implement.

They hired Txiki Begiristain and he gets on with it.

Chelsea have a strategy and vision under Boehly (it's just flawed or risky, however you want to look at it).

Funnily I think SAF was and is a big problem of why Man Utd have so many problems now.

Manchester United out of Carabao Cup, Champions League only have the FA Cup as silverware to fight for. 6 points adrift from the Top 4 and don’t look like finishing within the Top 4 let alone Top 5 for next season champions league is it time for Erik Ten Hag to get the sack? And who would you want to replace him with?

Definitely need a new set of owners a full sale required then implementing a board and a group of people with a structure and plan put to place people that are of football knowledge, know how and background before a new infrastructure in stadium and facilities and money being spent wisely on £15,000,000/£20,000,000 player investment before going onto making a resale in value and profit like the Ajax, Benfica, Borussia Dortmund, Monaco. And the trust in building a team around youth and academy based players.