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Reply 21
Farrdango
WTF!!:mad: that is the dumbest thing i ever heard!!
point one...your an idiot.
point two. child abuse has nothing to do with someone not getting an abortion and being stuck with a baby. theres something cool that can save unwanted babies lifes and that thousands or possibly millions of dollars(or pounds or yens or what ever). its called adoption.
point three just making abortion legal does not take care of any problems.
point four i don't care if you are joking or serious. you need mental help.

Now, why pro-choice does not make sense. they all think that the baby is apart of the mothers body. it is not. the baby is just connected. theres a whole other life form in one life form. taking a scientific look at things, every single animal on this planet wants to live. thats why the gazzel runs away from the lion, thats why the wolf chews off it's own leg that is stuck in the bear trap(those clamps that fold down a snaps shut whe walked on), and thats why that little human(though not animal) wants to live. the people that want to perform the abortion does not even think of that. they just care about themselves. and its the stupid reasons that they do it to. i don't want to be responsible! even though i could put the little thing up for adoption. I don't want to get fat. i sleeped around, but i don't want a baby! bla bla bla! it all just pisses me off!!:mad:

oh and Profesh...yu already know what im thinking. so i don't have to really state it.
there's always one.
Reply 22
Sprockette
Let me guess: a) guy or b) Catholic....? God, that really pisses me off that other people can have ANY sort of a right over my body!?!? :mad: A baby mightn't be part of the mothers actual body but it is very much THERE! If you don't want the baby, why have it in the first place? I'm not exactly pro-abortion, but I am pro-choice. Your body, your choice, I don't care if there is another life inside you, its still your life as well.


if yu didn't want it, then why were yu messing around? why yu sleeping around with guys and not even thinking about the remote chancce of pregnancy. (oh, and im not really meaning yu sprockette, but reather general)

Sprockette
You are incredibly ignorant if you think that is the only reason anyone ever has an abortion. Ignorant beyond words, in fact.


ignorant! there is only a small percentage of women that actually get abortion because of rape. out of pregantpause.org, of abortion:
problemWoman is concerned about how having a baby could change her life 16%
Woman can't afford baby now 21%
Woman has problems with relationship or wants to avoid single parenthood 12%
Woman is unready for responsibility 21%
Woman doesn't want others to know she has had sex or is pregnant 1%
Woman is not mature enough, or is too young to have a child 11%
Woman has all the children she wanted, or has all grown-up children 8%
Husband or partner wants woman to have an abortion 1%
Fetus has possible health problem 3%
Woman has health problem 3%
Woman's parents want her to have abortion <1%
Woman was victim of rape or incest 1%
Other 3%

and how many abortions happen world wide? http://http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/wrjp333pd.html

http://http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/mapworldabrate.html

http://http://www.afterabortion.org/

http://http://www.timesofmalta.com/core/article.php?id=235844

http://http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697404/posts

http://http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/mapworldabrate.html

and as it is seen. i am right. the majority of women(over 60% to know of) have abortion because they were not thinking. too busy getting busy instead of thinking, and keeping their legs closed.
Reply 23
So what about the other 40%? Assuming that is accurate to claim that 40% of aborters do so for the "right" reasons (hint: cite a source before making claims), are you suggesting that abortion should be banned for everyone, because the majority weren't thinking? What exactly are you trying to prove here?

While you can sit upon your moral high-horse and accuse these women of not thinking, I doubt you've actually taken the time to steal a pair of their shoes and live their life for a day. Perhaps then you'd be justified to whitewash their reasons for abortion as "wrong", and thus force them to bring a (perhaps unwanted) child into the world. I am utterly disgusted that you would deny these women an abortion based on such an arbitary standards of ethics.
Reply 24
Oooh...it is Jonathan Swift.
He is risen.

(Or maybe not.)
Reply 25
Farrdango
i sleeped around,


lol
Reply 26
Segat1
there's always one.


There was a pertinent comment in yesterday's Independent on Sunday. The columnist was exploring that perennial question - Have we moved beyond satire? Is Satire Dead? Blah, blah, blah, the usual. He recounted an anecdote of one of his colleagues who read Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal to a group of first year US undergraduates and their reaction was pretty similar to Farrdango's response to the OP's pastiche.

I lack the energy to despair.
Reply 27
Well, I'm just looking for a cheap thrill, debating with responses like this. :P
Reply 28
Farrdango

Other 3%


Rep for best guess at possibilities.
Reply 29
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Rep for best guess at possibilities.



a) beastiality gone wrong
b) illegal immigrants
c) MRSA
d) Women who accidentally bumped into John Prescott down a dark alley (in such a situation it'd be a greater challenge to miss him...)
Reply 30
Dez
So what about the other 40%? Assuming that is accurate to claim that 40% of aborters do so for the "right" reasons (hint: cite a source before making claims), are you suggesting that abortion should be banned for everyone, because the majority weren't thinking? What exactly are you trying to prove here?

While you can sit upon your moral high-horse and accuse these women of not thinking, I doubt you've actually taken the time to steal a pair of their shoes and live their life for a day. Perhaps then you'd be justified to whitewash their reasons for abortion as "wrong", and thus force them to bring a (perhaps unwanted) child into the world. I am utterly disgusted that you would deny these women an abortion based on such an arbitary standards of ethics.
;dots;

Farrdango
out of pregantpause.org, of abortion...

they get their info from Guttmacher Institute.

now it's not really 40% that is not "abusing abortion"
Farrdango
the majority of women(over 60% to know of)...
again, over 60% i didn't really count exactly. but what about that very small few? what about them...
saying that they are doing the "right thing" because they are getting rid of what they thinkn is a "problem" is incredably wrong in itself. again, a simple solution: adoption. that solves almost everything. now, for those that want abortion because their baby may be have possible health problems. there is nothing better to having a child. why kill him/her just because theres only a few years in their life. better yet, theres only a few months in his/her life. i don't know if anyone else knows this, but thats a prediction. predictions are not right most of the time. the doctors think it may happen. thats why they say, "may" "might" and words of similar meanings. lets say it does happen. lets put it towards me even. I have a child...my wife and me. (lets make the baby a him) he has the most terrible disease out there. why should that baby be shunned out, away from us. why doesn't that baby deserve the love and care like anyother baby. I would love him, i'd care for him. and i'd put every single amount of money i have towards giving that little guy a better chance of enjoying life. but thats just me. not everyone could live with that much responsibility.

heres another analisis from pregantpause.org towards why abort:
Deformed baby less than 3%
Threat to life or health of mother maybe 3%
Rape and incest 1%
Mother has social problems 93%
heres that count from above in better perspective. and actually a more truthful chart. less bias.

speaking of living in shoes, how 'bout yu do the samething. what the hell makes yu have sex without thinking about the remote possability of getting pregnant when married couples have sex to get pregnant! someones not thinking here. no one says, "i don't think i can afford a baby, but hey lets get one anyways". and what makes it wrong(not "wrong") is the fact that they are taking a babies life, a human life when they are thinking of "im not ready to be a mom" why aren't they thinking about "im not ready to be a mom" before they say "yes i'll have sex" or simply agreeing to it. if a person would think about their actions, that 93% would not be what it is.
and towards yur comment on unwanted babies... im rather speechless. not because i don't have an answer, but because of how incredably discussing it sounds. yu'll give a person the right to murder another human just because their unwanted? everyone is unwanted in somepoint in their lives. this is also what really gets me with suicide, but lets not get into that. adoption. it is really amazing on how many people want to have a child(or more) but can not. it is also discusting that you and others think that murder is okay. Murder if yu don't know is the killing of an innocent human by another human. also unlawfully is in there. oh, and if they didn't want to bring a child into the world, they should have thought of what they were doing and kept their legs closed. other wise, yea force them to not murder the baby. why should the baby die for the mother's stupidity.

I know i did some, but lets stay out of those "what if" questions for the most part, because those could be said on both sides. i don't want to see a repetition here with what if. i think we all could agree there


...i'll comment more later. i have to go work.
Reply 31
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Rep for best guess at possibilities.


oh...yea, that got me too...
i'd say... thruthfull answers example: i didn't really want this to happen, but i need it taken care of quickly as possible so i could go do it again.
Reply 32
Why are we having more abortions?

Magic 8-Ball said so ---- 8%
Religion forbids birth in all circumstances ---- 3%
Foetus required for student revue performance of Dead Baby: The Musical ---- 21%
Misinterpretation of Bible/Koran ---- 9%
Expected due date same as LOST finale ---- 20%
Just a cry for gynaeological help---- 11%
I guess I'm just a try-anything-once kind of girl ---- 13%
Running low on chains for the buggers ---- 43%

(Figures may not total 100% because of rounding. Taken from www.totallyunbiasedabortionsite.com)
Reply 33
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Why are we having more abortions?

Magic 8-Ball said so ---- 8%
Religion forbids birth in all circumstances ---- 3%
Foetus required for student revue performance of Dead Baby: The Musical ---- 21%
Financial offer for foetus from Damien Hurst ---- 31%
Misinterpretation of Bible/Koran ---- 9%
You just can't buy fresh these days, can you? ---- 2%
Expected due date same as LOST finale ---- 20%
Just a cry for gynaeological help---- 11%
I guess I'm just a try-anything-once kind of girl ---- 13%
Running low on cupboards for the buggers ---- 43%

(Figures may not total 100% because of rounding. Taken from www.totallyunbiasedabortionsite.com)




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