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I can't even imagine cocaine and heroine being available in a shop. And if I can't even imagine it being a norm, how can we support it? Ultimately, I wouldn't support legalisation of hard drugs because legalisation gives tacit support for hard drugs, which is not a good sign for a responsible government to give.
Original post by deliverous
I can't even imagine cocaine and heroine being available in a shop. And if I can't even imagine it being a norm, how can we support it? Ultimately, I wouldn't support legalisation of hard drugs because legalisation gives tacit support for hard drugs, which is not a good sign for a responsible government to give.
So a responsible government ignores the advice from scientists and instead promotes fear mongering and policy based off misinformation / outright lies?
Also in a society where drugs are legal, one would expect very strict controls. You wouldn't be able to pop down your local off license and score some skag.
Most recreational drugs are illegal, a **** ton of money and resources are spent trying to enforce this policy. The majority of drug deaths can be attributed to their illegality.
And yet, if i wanted almost any drug i could acquire it today, any drug, within a week at most. I'm sure at the very least you cannot deny drug prohibition is a failure.
Really? another 'legalise drugs' thread.
It should never be legalised. End thread.
It should never be legalised. End thread.
Original post by Balloon Baboon
Really? another 'legalise drugs' thread.
It should never be legalised. End thread.
It should never be legalised. End thread.
Exactly right. Why legalise things that can easily harm your body and are mega addictive. I am against drugs, but understand Smoking and Alcohol are both legal.
Original post by heavyhandscott
Exactly right. Why legalise things that can easily harm your body and are mega addictive. I am against drugs, but understand Smoking and Alcohol are both legal.
Ban it all for all I care
Original post by Balloon Baboon
Ban it all for all I care
But at least most people enjoy themselves drinking alcohol. You never see a happy person injecting heroin, or taking LSD... But sometimes you see very sad and weird people drinking alcohol.
Smoking isnt like the other drugs, smoking is only an addictive drug which people get a good feeling from because they've craved a cig or something.
Original post by G8D
What are good reasons for legalising and turning a blind eye to societal degeneracy?
How is criminalising it not just turning a blind eye? Removing bodily autonomy and freedom of thought are pretty drastic measures, surely it should be for those in favor of criminalising drug users to justify it.
Original post by G8D
You don't solve the problem of drug addiction, drug related crime, harm caused by drugs by legalising them. The cost to the NHS etc of helping addicts/those harmed remains.
You don't solve the problem of drug addiction, drug related crime, harm caused by drugs by legalising them. The cost to the NHS etc of helping addicts/those harmed remains.
You don't solve the problem of drug addiction, drug related crime, harm caused by drugs by making them illegal. The cost to the NHS etc of helping addicts/those harmed
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Original post by heavyhandscott
But at least most people enjoy themselves drinking alcohol. You never see a happy person injecting heroin, or taking LSD... But sometimes you see very sad and weird people drinking alcohol.
I've never seen any happier people than those i've seen taking LSD.
Original post by heavyhandscott
Smoking isnt like the other drugs, smoking is only an addictive drug which people get a good feeling from because they've craved a cig or something.
Original post by phaedron
If you're against legalisation and distribution of drugs here's a chance to present the most convincing argument you can.
Remember you're arguing against all drugs being available in specialised shops.
Remember you're arguing against all drugs being available in specialised shops.
It rather boils down to what you class as a drug.
I think you could easily argue against polonium or tetrodotoxin being legally available to all as they're very dangerous and can be used to kill people.
I'm not sure it's rational to make one blanket argument that covers all drugs. Each one should be considered on its merits.
Making drug consumption a legal issue just seems to fly in the face of rational thought. I think we have to consider whether legalising drugs would reduce the harms they cause. My instinct is to say that it probably would. There is a chance however that Britain's binge drinking culture could be transferred over and combined with the more exotic varieties of narcotic
Certainly cannabis should be legalised, and possibly a range of tightly controlled substances that would act as substitutes for more dangerous alternatives.
The ultimate aim would be to put the drug dealers out of business, to ensure quality and purity of supply for public safety, whilst avoiding actually encouraging increased usage of the more addictive or physically harmful substances.
The ultimate aim would be to put the drug dealers out of business, to ensure quality and purity of supply for public safety, whilst avoiding actually encouraging increased usage of the more addictive or physically harmful substances.
Original post by n00
I've never seen any happier people than those i've seen taking LSD.
Are they really happy, or is the drug so empowering that they are not in control of their feelings?
There are none really. They should remain illegal for under 18s, in line with the legal drinking age. We are wasting money on trying to police this.
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Remember that suicide is illegal. If you fail a suicide attempt you are locked away for your own protection. The same could theoretically apply to drug use where its treated as a medical issue akin to self harm. Im sorry but the quality of responses for keeping drugs illegal is abysmal.
We need to stop talking about 'drugs'. That's too broad/vague a term to apply to such a diverse range of substances/molecules and it does no good to keep using it. They're all different and should be judged individually.
Original post by phaedron
Remember that suicide is illegal. If you fail a suicide attempt you are locked away for your own protection. The same could theoretically apply to drug use where its treated as a medical issue akin to self harm. Im sorry but the quality of responses for keeping drugs illegal is abysmal.
No you aren't.
Original post by phaedron
Making drug consumption a legal issue just seems to fly in the face of rational thought. I think we have to consider whether legalising drugs would reduce the harms they cause. My instinct is to say that it probably would. There is a chance however that Britain's binge drinking culture could be transferred over and combined with the more exotic varieties of narcotic
I think people often forget how important this is. Just because one measure works in say, Portugal, doesn't mean it will work here. 24hr drinking licences were introduced to encourage a slow and steady European drinking style. Instead people seem to drink just as quickly but for longer. I genuinely think a large amount of people in the UK will just take whatever opportunities the government allows and they will take it to excess.
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