You will never defeat Islamic terrorism- the problem is embedded within the religion

Islam is a religion that bites hard everytime when asked a simple question.

Islam is walking all over Christian values and the UK.

The mistake is to group all Muslims together (ditto all Christians, all Catholics, all Protestants, all Jews, all Buddhists, all Atheists, all Sikhs etc. There are decent reasonable people in all these religions and non religions. Common sense says no doubt better people within the Muslim faith than some Christians, some Jews , some Protestants etc. (We can all give examples of some pretty awful people within any grouping.)

Indeed many of all these groups don't take on board all the tenets of their religion but pick and choose like all Catholics don't refuse to practice birth control just because their religion says they should.

Often we have a lot to learn and gain by listening to what others say about our beliefs and culture. Thus is how we get a new slant on ourselves and bring in improvements. Any culture that can't do this is a dead culture.

That's because Muslims actually want to defend their religion unlike majority of Christians who don't give a crap if any of their religious values are offended.

Islam is a religion that bites hard everytime when asked a simple question.

Islam is walking all over Christian values and the UK.

That's because Muslims actually want to defend their religion unlike majority of Christians who don't give a crap if any of their religious values are offended.

Look at the map mate..... does that look like just a few rogue Muslims? 60 COUNTRIES!

I don't think 'Christian Values' are under threat or attack as much as you people think.

Not saying that the extremism doesn't exist in all those countries but it doesn't mean it's widespread in all those countries. I highly doubt the majority of Muslims would follow the extremists in much the same way I doubt many white Americans would follow the KKK.

Title says it all really.

How many countries have experienced Islamic extremism since 2001?



(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism)

About 60-70. So, quite a few....

When you have so many countries, scattered across so many different continents, this isn't a local issue- this is a problem with the religion itself. This isn't about politics- we don't hear the ISIS leadership mentioning words like "oil", its about eradicating infidels. They want Islam to rule the world.

I think the only way we are going to protect ourselves is to have a divide whereby those who want to follow Islam live on one side of the divide and the rest of us live on the other side.

The world throughout history has managed to struggle through conflicts cloaked within the banners of belief, and no doubt will do so again.

Did they ram multiculturalism down cultures' throats throughout history?

No, the norm was just to kill all of dissenting opinion: However the Romans managed for extended periods to deal with multiculturalism, to a degree.

I prefer choice over coercion when considering beliefs; history does teach us that any other approach invariably does not work and it then collapses.

It is why I am possibly more tolerant of the excesses of other cultures; we in Western Europe have been there, done that and got the T shirt.

Our current moral high ground has been achieved over hundreds of years by killing, maiming and deporting those of differing beliefs over hundreds of years.

The biblical quotation regarding casting the first stone, or the more secular reference to people in glass houses, ought possibly to be in our minds.

Just wait and see- as the Muslim population in the UK grows you will see more and more problems. Save this post- it'll be true within 15-20 years...

Go and live in Israel, they'll love you there.

I was alive at that time Enoch Powell gave his "Rivers of Blood" speech, albeit a bit young to be politically active; people always predict the future with the worst possible outcome, reality tends to be slightly less extreme.

I am not saying there will not be issues, there have always been issues when cultures rub against each other, but an iron curtain divide is unlikely to solve these issues.

Title says it all really.

How many countries have experienced Islamic extremism since 2001?



(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism)

About 60-70. So, quite a few....

When you have so many countries, scattered across so many different continents, this isn't a local issue- this is a problem with the religion itself. This isn't about politics- we don't hear the ISIS leadership mentioning words like "oil", its about eradicating infidels. They want Islam to rule the world.

I think the only way we are going to protect ourselves is to have a divide whereby those who want to follow Islam live on one side of the divide and the rest of us live on the other side.