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Edexcel A2 6GP03 June 2015 Topic B: Introducing Political Ideologies

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Had the socialism question ever come up before? I planned pretty much every past question since Jan 2010 and I've never seen it? Anyway I did the liberalism 45 marker
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Original post by lilza
Had the socialism question ever come up before? I planned pretty much every past question since Jan 2010 and I've never seen it? Anyway I did the liberalism 45 marker


i didnt even read the socialism one, what was the question?
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Original post by atxya
i didnt even read the socialism one, what was the question?




I think it was to what extent to socialists endorse collectivism? Correct me if I'm wrong someone.
Original post by Shaqk
I think it was to what extent to socialists endorse collectivism? Correct me if I'm wrong someone.


I answered it, the question was "to what extent have socialists shown their commitment to collectivism" discuss
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Original post by Shaqk
I think it was to what extent to socialists endorse collectivism? Correct me if I'm wrong someone.


hmm..i haven't seen this before but i just checked online and it hasn't come up before as a 45 marker but only as a 15 marker
Reply 605
does anyone have all the exam questions for unit 4 that came up before 2009?
Got to say I loved that paper, so happy with the 15 markers that came up, I did 2,4 & 5, basically the Trad/Neo-Liberal views on society, Liberalism disagreeing on freedom and Anarchism view of nature! I did the Liberalism 45 mark and wrote 12 solid paragraphs, could of done the Conservatism one too, but I'm a Liberal obsessive. What a great exam, bring on unit 4! Thought I'd create a Unit 4 thread, so join me over here and let's prepare for it! http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=3390601
Original post by Shaqk
Shout out to the guy who said 2 anarchism 15 marks will come up tho.

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Np :wink:
Guys, I can't quite remember if I crossed one of the boxes to answer one of the 15markers, will they still mark it?
easy huhhhh
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Original post by atxya
i didnt even read the socialism one, what was the question?


Something like " to what extent have socialists supported collectivism". Horrible question in my opinion.
PLEASE TELL ME HOW I DONE AND GUESS AT A MARK OUT OF 45 PLEASE!
Liberalism 45 marker

defined equality
view all humans as equal
belief in equality of opportunity - fair and just
do not support equality of outcome - unachievable and undesirable
support meritocracy - most intelligent and hard working will rise to top
classical: less support to achieve equality of opportunity
modern: more support, social welfare, help to achieve equality

honest opinion would be great (im not even sure if that stuff is right, let alone relevant) lol
thanks xxxxx
For all those concerned about the liberalism 45 marker, question 8 here was the mark scheme for last time it was marked:
Paste isn't working on my phone, but its the summer 2010 exam
The relationship between liberalism and equality has been a matter of deep debate.
Liberals themselves have placed considerable stress on equality, while their critics,
particularly socialists, portray liberalism as essentially inegalitarian. Much of this debate
is about the importance of different forms of equality.
The egalitarian credentials of liberalism are based upon a strong belief in foundational
and formal equality. Liberals believe that people are ‘born’ equal in the sense that they
are of equal moral worth. Foundational equality implies a belief in formal equality, the
idea that individuals should enjoy the same formal status in society, particularly in terms
of the distribution of rights and entitlements. The most important forms of formal
equality are legal and political equality, ensured by ‘equality before the law’ and a
system of one person, one vote at election time. In addition, liberals believe in equality
of opportunity, the idea that each person should have the same chance to rise or fall in
society. The game of life must thus be played on an even playing field.
However, there is disagreement within liberalism about the implications of equality of
opportunity. Classical liberals believe that a free-market economy guarantees equality of
opportunity, also believing that there are benefits in the resulting social inequality. In
particular, unlike individuals who should be rewarded differently and significant levels of
social inequality act as an economic incentive, ultimately bringing benefit to all. Modern
liberals, on the other hand, favour intervention, through welfare and redistribution, to
narrow social inequalities, thereby linking equality of opportunity to a greater measure of
equality of outcome. For Rawls, social inequality was only justified if it worked to the
advantage of the least well-off.
Liberalism has been criticised by socialists, who believe that it is inadequately committed
to equality. The socialist critique of the liberal view of equality emphasises that a
commitment to foundational and formal equality is hollow if individuals enjoy very
different social circumstances and therefore life chances. Similarly, socialists have
criticised the doctrine of equality of opportunity on the grounds that it is used to
legitimise sometimes wide social inequalities.
That's the one! Thanks
For the question 'to what extent do liberals disagree over freedom', I described what they have in common first.. is that a big problem? It was the last question I did (I did the 45 marker and two other 15 markers first) so was just exhausted and not thinking straight at that point lol

Overall I'm happy with that exam
Original post by S4LM4N
For the question 'to what extent do liberals disagree over freedom', I described what they have in common first.. is that a big problem? It was the last question I did (I did the 45 marker and two other 15 markers first) so was just exhausted and not thinking straight at that point lol

Overall I'm happy with that exam


I did three for and then three against too... are you not meant too?
Original post by greenwood_beth
I did! I quite liked it.

I talked about (because there was very little "no" argument, as said so by my teacher who planned it with us) authoritarian conservatism, the new right (neocons view mainly) and the traditional view of human nature as a tenet paragraph, and for a small "no" counterpoint I spoke a little bit about the liberal new right and one-nationism but as there wasn't much of a "no" to argue it wasn't as "meaty" as my other paragraphs - more of a debate paragraph, if you will.


This is how I wrote;
Conservatism has been viewed as a philosophy of human imperfection in three senses:

First, conservatives have traditionally viewedhuman beings as psychologically imperfect, as limited and dependent creatures who seek, above all, security. This implies a resistance to change and helps to explain why conservatives value tradition, private property and cultural homogeneity. Disraeli (Paternalism in general)

Second, human beings are morally imperfect in that they are greedy and selfish creatures motivated by non-rational impulses and desires. This implies that order can only be established by a strong state and firm law-and-order policies. Hobbes (leviathan)
Third, human beings are intellectually imperfect in that the world is too complex for them to fully explain and understand. This implies that abstract principles and systems of thought are to be distrusted in favour of pragmatism, and helps to explain why history, experience and tradition are the surest guides to human action. Burke (Reflections on the revolution in France)

However, New Right neo-liberalism has departed from these ideas in that it believes in human rationalism and individual self-reliance.
Original post by lizmoo0721
I did three for and then three against too... are you not meant too?


For that question I just outlined four differences differences that affect ones freedom;

Classical vs Modern

Negative vs Positive Freedom (Isaiah Berlin)
Free market (Adam Smith) vs Mixed Economy (John Keynes)
Egotistical Individualism (Jeremy Bentham) vs Developmental Individualism (JS Mill)
Social Darwinism (Herbert Spenser) vs Welfare (John Rawls)

In conclusion, Minimal State vs Enabling state

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