Who should now lead Labour?

It has to be one of Dan Jarvis, Stella Creasy or Keir Starmer.

Do we actually know much about Dan Jarvis, other than that he's ex-Army?

A lot of people are say this, but I don't see it. A safe pair of hands no doubt, deputy material, but I don't see the ruthless leadership and flair of a winner. Mind you I didn't really rate Cameron to cut the mustard..

The sun backed anyone that wasn't labour In order to get a Tory majority.
The SNP had media backing in Scotland in most outlets bar potentially the BBC

Agreed. ****ing Murdoch.

Why even bother with pretense you are a social democrat party of the only way you can get elected is by becoming a right wing Tory lite party. I would take a right wing party that doesn't privatize or outsource the NHS though...

So depressing.

Ypununderstand so little its genuinely embarassing.

Blair pretended to be right but when he got in enacted loads of really left leaning policies. That's the way it works.

You be right to get in, enact left policies once you are in. Ignore Iraq, and look at all the good things Blair achieved. That's a million times better than a Tory government.

Conservative popularity sunk like a Lib Dem due to recession and Black Wednesday, long before Blair, who only continued the trend.

There's only really one factor that decides a party's success, and that's the leader themselves. If they're more handsome and charismatic than the other one, they'll be PM more often than not. Unless there's a gimmick like being female or black.

I do think though with labour they can't be seen as too posh. Which is why it can't be Tristan hunt. Chuka can get away with it because he is BME but Tristan is just going to be seen as of the same ilk as the Tories.

What worries me though is that survey which said 30% of the electorate wouldn't be happy with a non white leader.

At some point, one of the parties would do well by bringing in a brutally honest leader. Rather than someone who tries to keep their 'upper class' background quiet, just say "yes, I did have an education, now I want you all to have the same opportunity".

The racism will subside as time and diversification goes on, faster if the economy comes good again and wartime ends and terrorism simmers back down. But Britain will always be xenophobic, it's 'cause of its geography as much as its culture, being a detached island surrounded by a behemoth of foreign landmass.

Thing is though a big part of the reasons labour lost seats in semi rural areas of the midlands and north is because people voted UKIP. I don't see how chuka would help that, as much as I hate to pander to racists

Oh I really hope David Miliband offers to be leader again for the lols

Labour lost the election by losing seats to the SNP, and because they failed to appeal to the middle classes. It has nothing to do with losing votes to UKIP, as they also take most of their votes off the Tories in the first place.